The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[signbabybrady]

This is your problem. You make logical leaps from "the Cowboys can win without Johnson because the talent mattered more" to "we are erasing Johnson from history and ignoring some of the things he did contribute".

No it just seems you're not able to grasp a point.

You're not erasing Jimmy but you are trying to erase BB. Which is even more insane since you guys are supposed Patriots fans.

 

[XLIX]

But there is one Man who coached him so well that he was able to go on and win one without him.

Now Belichick deserves credit for the Super Bowl Brady won in Tampa........ you can't make this up, folks.

 

[Wozzy]

HAHAHA Bill was considered the most brilliant defensive mind lol? Yeah the coordinator for the Giants was considered a better defensive mind than the Bud Grant, Buddy Ryan who coached the greatest defense ever. LOL drink up Wozzy you are getting yourself woozy.

Fan sites… the only place on planet Earth the most successful person in their given field can be considered poor.

Giving ignorant people a microphone was the real downside to the internet.

 

[XLIX]

You know Montana won one without Walsh. Aikman won one without Jimmy Johnson.

You're absolutely right! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's because the players are infinitely more important than the coaches!!

Thank you for FINALLY coming around to what I have spent years telling you!!!

 

[Wozzy]

It is good that you realize how embarrassingly ignorant you are.

The forum is laughing at you. Even the Belichick supporters don't support you because they know how stupid your statements are.

The 15 minute standing ovation BB received at Brady night proves you’re part of the overwhelming minority.

 

[signbabybrady]

Now Belichick deserves credit for the Super Bowl Brady won in Tampa........ you can't make this up, folks.

You ever hear guys thank their HS and college coaches in a retirement speech? Impact would kind of be like that. Except 20 years worth.

 

[Wozzy]

Missing the playoffs =/= “winning anything” regardless of any excuses

11 wins, with a QB who didn’t make a single start in college and was drafted in the 7th round.

So weird… I remember that Browns franchise winning a Super Bowl almost right away after they were relocated to Baltimore.

Yeah, Bills GM Ozzie Newsome credited Bill and his scouting for that. Oh yeah, and they did it with Trent Dilfer…. another super star franchise caliber QB… laughable.

 

[XLIX]

Look at the entire season along with the playoffs… you suggesting Tom arrived like gangbusters and set the offensive world on fire is fanboy revisionism.

And you suggesting that he was "average" is fanboy idiocy.

 

[signbabybrady]

You're absolutely right! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's because the players are infinitely more important than the coaches!!

Thank you for FINALLY coming around to what I have spent years telling you!!!

Yet you insist on holding the Brady vs Bill debate every couple of weeks just for fun.

All Ive ever argued is how dumb that is and that they are both the greatest of all time. Nothing one did takes away from what the other did like you constantly try to do.

 

[Wozzy]

Tom Brady was Michigan's #1 QB in both 1998 and 1999. He threw 618 passes those 2 years. (By comparison, the next closest QB on the team, Drew Henson, threw 134 passes, mostly in mop up duty).

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Tom Brady split starts with Drew Henson at the University of Michigan. Stop dancing…

 

[Wozzy]

And you suggesting that he was "average" is fanboy idiocy.

Average or slightly above average among starting QB’s, this with Charlie Weis holding his hand and limiting his mistakes.

He really got good in year four…

 

[lancerman]

No it just seems you're not able to grasp a point.

You're not erasing Jimmy but you are trying to erase BB. Which is even more insane since you guys are supposed Patriots fans.

No I'm actually not trying to erase Belichick. I'm pointing out how stupidly high your estimation of what he added is vs the reality. That doesn't change that he got the team prepared and played to a standard and doesn't deserve some credit. But it's a ****ing pipe dream to say that Brady wasn't the big piece in the whole puzzle and the fortunes of whatever franchise he was part of changed with him.

 

[lancerman]

Yet you insist on holding the Brady vs Bill debate every couple of weeks just for fun.

All Ive ever argued is how dumb that is and that they are both the greatest of all time. Nothing one did takes away from what the other did like you constantly try to do.

This thread would have been done months ago if you didn't get worked up at any little bit of criticism of Belichick and felt the need to respond and also keep posting any small little positive piece of media on him to counter everyone else.

 

[lancerman]

The 15 minute standing ovation BB received at Brady night proves you’re part of the overwhelming minority.

That's such a dumb counter. That's like me saying "the crowd cheering for Brady all night for every little thing he was associated with shows how much more they like Brady over Bill who only got 15 minutes". I would have cheered for him two if I was there, doesn't mean I agree with almost any of the dumb **** you are saying.

 

[Wozzy]

This thread would have been done months ago if you didn't get worked up at any little bit of criticism of Belichick and felt the need to respond and also keep posting any small little positive piece of media on him to counter everyone else.

You haters keep this thread pinned to the top… stop lying.

Meanwhile if the rest of us accepted that the most successful coach in pro football history simply sucked at his job… this conversation would be over.

 

[Wozzy]

That's such a dumb counter. That's like me saying "the crowd cheering for Brady all night for every little thing he was associated with shows how much more they like Brady over Bill who only got 15 minutes". I would have cheered for him two if I was there, doesn't mean I agree with almost any of the dumb **** you are saying.

You haters are the minority, by a large margin. You just are incessant posters.The remaining 99% of us think you’re fools.

 

[h0c2000]

OwNeRs SoN waS iN mY WaY or something.

As a head coach, Bill hasn't won **** without this owner and his son. Robert taught Bill how to be the head coach he turned out to be.

 

[lancerman]

You haters keep this thread pinned to the top… stop lying.

Meanwhile if the rest of us accepted that the most successful coach in pro football history simply sucked at his job… this conversation would be over.

I intentionally stopped posting in this thread for awhile until very recently and it was still going with the same back and forth nonsense and signbabybrady was posting in it near every day even when I wasn't.

 

[Wozzy]

As a head coach, Bill hasn't won **** without this owner and his son. Robert taught Bill how to be the head coach he turned out to be.

Yeah… Bob’s long historic career as a coach is testament to that.

 

[lancerman]

You haters are the minority, by a large margin. You just are incessant posters.The remaining 99% of us think you’re fools.

See you just make up facts to feel better. You really need to validate yourself that you have some majority opinion that you made up. I guarantee you if you did a poll on who was more important between Brady and Belichick, it would overwhelming be Brady leading.

The problem is you find acknowledging that to be the same as saying Belichick did nothing and find it offensive.