OT: Josh Simmons steal of draft

[signbabybrady]

I was the ONLY person on this who publicly went on record prior to the draft and said I would take Josh Simmons at #4 if no trade down was available.

Thread 'Mayoclinic Thoughts'

Apr 20, 2025

I haven't posted since 2015, when the NFL suspended Tom Brady for the Ideal Gas Law. I decided that the Sinaloa and Cali cartels were more deserving of support than the one that calls itself the NFL. Haven't watched much since then and don't follow as closely. Lurk once in a while.

I haven't followed the draft discussion on the board very actively, but FWIW, here are a few thoughts:

General Thoughts

1. Every draft is different, there are opportunities and mistakes to be made every year. This one is thin at the top but very, very deep. If I compare this year's pool to last...

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That said:

1. It's way too early too tell anything.

2. I hope Will Campbell makes me look like an absolute idiot for saying that.

Let's see what we've got before crying over perceived spillt milk.

nah, not the only one... I would have punched the ticket with Simmons name on it at 4 without hesitation... and said so in March, more than a month and a half before the draft...

Post in thread 'The OTs need to be addressed via the DRAFT'

Mar 4, 2025

This is a hole lot of talk without a single name being thrown out that would be available and fix the position.

You know why, because there isn't a single guy in this draft that is a can't miss prospect at the position....not a single one. There probably isn't even a guy that a better than 75% certainty.

Josh Simmons. I want him. I would draft him tomorrow at 4 - No questions asked.

Will Campbell would be my second choice. Since I don't think we will get jumped at 4, eh.


Haven't done much work on the RT spot - Okay, any work on the RT spot.

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still, i don't mind us taking Campbell at 4... taking a LT was paramount, it had to be done... and given the injury simmons had, Campbell was a logical pick at the time...

Congratulations you would have taken someone at 4 that could have been had at 32.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Hearing the same for my other LT favorite in Houston

Texans Rookie Aireontae Ersery Is Turning Heads In Training Camp - Saturday Morning Inspection

As the Houston Texans prepare for their 2025 NFL season, all eyes are on their…

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OUCH!!

 

[Sect140]

I never understand why one would root for players to fail.

I had my doubts about Campbell. Would love to seem him succeed spectacularly.

Because for some reason them being right on a player prediction is more important than that player being good and helping the team.

 

[Pape]

Congratulations you would have taken someone at 4 that could have been had at 32.

and wouldn't have had a single regret in doing so.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Because for some reason them being right on a player prediction is more important than that player being good and helping the team.

It’s insecurity. Their fragile ego’s cannot take being wrong.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

It’s insecurity. Their fragile ego’s cannot take being wrong.

I would gladly be wrong 100% of the time if it made the Pats better. I wanted the Pats to draft David Terrell, and was hugely disappointed when they took Seymour. I may have been off the mark on that one, slightly

 

[Huckleberry1]

I would gladly be wrong 100% of the time if it made the Pats better. I wanted the Pats to draft David Terrell, and was hugely disappointed when they took Seymour. I may have been off the mark on that one, slightly

lol, yep. Being right about players is nice, but winning is much much better.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I would gladly be wrong 100% of the time if it made the Pats better. I wanted the Pats to draft David Terrell, and was hugely disappointed when they took Seymour. I may have been off the mark on that one, slightly

I expect to see growing pains with most of these guys, that’s what goes on with young players. What matters is their attitudes, work ethic, and how well they take to coaching. Unfortunately the cranks in the media and in this forum have zero tolerance, and see any mistakes as proof they were right in their condemnations of these players. So expect a ton of misery from guys like Sam, State, and the always miserable Captain, as that’s just who they are.

*To be honest it seems like the crap with State is a more recent development. I always thought he was a good contributor to the draft forum, and don’t recall him being the crank he’s been lately.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I expect to see growing pains with most of these guys, that’s what goes on with young players. What matters is their attitudes, work ethic, and how well they take to coaching. Unfortunately the cranks in the media and in this forum have zero tolerance, and see any mistakes as proof they were right in their condemnations of these players. So expect a ton of misery from guys like Sam, State, and the always miserable Captain, as that’s just who they are.

I watch the sports hub because the Pats coverage this time of year is incredible, but the negativity of those guys is sickening. I've been posting on football forms for literally 30 years (even tho I'm new here), and there's always the same type of characters. The doomsdayers, the rainbows and bubble gum clouds guys, the "whatever I say is right, don't question me" guys. When I was younger I would engage, but have learned that some people just don't listen to reason. Always enjoyable to talk football, much more enjoyable when it's back and forth based on reason, but sometimes that's asking too much.

 

[The Gr8est]

OUCH!!

This is proving to be a surprisingly deep draft in retrospect.

Maybe a bit of a surprise because it seemed to lack so many blue chippers at the top.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

This is proving to be a surprisingly deep draft in retrospect.

Maybe a bit of a surprise because it seemed to lack so many blue chippers at the top.

Its a camp report from Houston. They are showing college stats every Team's scouting staff were aware of. He's done nothing, let's see how he does when the real bullets fly. Again, there were glowing reports about SUAMATAIA coming from the Chiefs camp last year and his rookie season was a disaster.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Didn’t Campbell stop White with a good punch on one recent rep?

Isn't that a standard OL move

 

[DarrylS]

I watch the sports hub because the Pats coverage this time of year is incredible, but the negativity of those guys is sickening. I've been posting on football forms for literally 30 years (even tho I'm new here), and there's always the same type of characters. The doomsdayers, the rainbows and bubble gum clouds guys, the "whatever I say is right, don't question me" guys. When I was younger I would engage, but have learned that some people just don't listen to reason. Always enjoyable to talk football, much more enjoyable when it's back and forth based on reason, but sometimes that's asking too much.

I've given up on those folks due to their neverending spewing of nontroversies they either make up or they heard from some guy.. they have been reduced to nothing more than nattering nabobs of negativity.

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is proving to be a surprisingly deep draft in retrospect.

Maybe a bit of a surprise because it seemed to lack so many blue chippers at the top.

This is right on the money. Many thought it was going to be a bad draft because the top of the Draft didn’t have the “ generational talents” it usually heralds, however when you started to look closely at it you found that there were really good prospects right through the first 5 rounds, as well as some sleepers after that. In terms of depth I came away from it feeling like it was one of the best drafts I have seen, and the Patriots exploited thatbtobthevfullestvextent.

 

[TomPatriot]

Hearing the same for my other LT favorite in Houston

Texans Rookie Aireontae Ersery Is Turning Heads In Training Camp - Saturday Morning Inspection

As the Houston Texans prepare for their 2025 NFL season, all eyes are on their…

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I wanted this guy too. He was underrated.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Sam's breaking hot take today is that the NFL has decided to skip all the formality and just enter Simmons into the Hall of Fame before the end of the second week of training camp even finishes. Even though 31 teams passed on him in the first round of the draft because of injury and character concerns, the Patriots should have selected him with the fourth overall pick. Kansas City is greatly disappointed that Simmons is retiring since he already made it into the HOF, but it is worth it because Simmons will be the 26th Chief being added.

 

[Sect140]

I really liked him going into last seasons college football season, then he got injured and missed rest of the season, I believe the Buckeyes moved a guard to replace him, maybe the right tackle and they kept rolling and steamrolled everyone in the playoffs, it made me wonder.

 

[signbabybrady]

I really liked him going into last seasons college football season, then he got injured and missed rest of the season, I believe the Buckeyes moved a guard to replace him, maybe the right tackle and they kept rolling and steamrolled everyone in the playoffs, it made me wonder.

Backups playing and not losing a step on a wagon of a team is one of those strange unexplainable phenomenons that seems to occur kind of regularly. Once a team has established itself and got the momentum going for some reason it seems as though teams can still keep winning despite significant injuries.

Troy and Earthwind playing CB or the Chiefs without Tyreek (I know not injury) as examples off the top of my head.

 

[sb1]

ChiefsPlanet has linked to this thread here and that's their proof that Simmons is good and Campbell is struggling at camp loool.

 

[PWRxWLF]

ChiefsPlanet has linked to this thread here and that's their proof that Simmons is good and Campbell is struggling at camp loool.

JFC. Way to go Sam!