PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP Training Camp Day 2 - July 24

[scott99]

Ya, don’t think that’s the case. His freshman season was his best, and there was talk he could be an early draft pick in a couple of years. Those talks died completely after disappointing Sophomore and Jr seasons, and spending time in the doghouse. Pretty misleading to say he was ever projected as a 1st rounder in his draft. I have heard peeps say this over the past couple of years, not really the case

Disagree with this 100%. I had one draft guide, even after his poor last year, had him as the #1 receiver on their draft list. I was shocked he lasted until the 6th round. Most had him going 3rd or 4th round, but others rated him higher than that.

 

[Steve102]

Tweet for camp stats context from J.J. Watt:

This post should be mandatory reading for all members. In fact it should be repeated after all dumb practice stat posts until it finally sinks in for anyone who cares about this absurdity.

 

[Ross12]

Disagree with this 100%. I had one draft guide, even after his poor last year, had him as the #1 receiver on their draft list. I was shocked he lasted until the 6th round. Most had him going 3rd or 4th round, but others rated him higher than that.

The bigger hit to his draft stock was due to a sex scandal at LSU. He didn't break the law but there was some inappropriate conduct. Then he had the gambling thing. So, I have to guess he was docked heavily by most teams for off-the-field concerns. But he really hasn't done anything wrong post-draft as far as I am aware.

 

[Zuma]

Disagree with this 100%. I had one draft guide, even after his poor last year, had him as the #1 receiver on their draft list. I was shocked he lasted until the 6th round. Most had him going 3rd or 4th round, but others rated him higher than that.

A leg injury in his Sophomore year derailed him for sure. @Triumph

 

[hornetfb85]

could also mean yesterday's porous O Line display is already terrifying the crap out of Josh

It could also mean that coaches are smart and use these non padded practices for install like this. Good day to put this in with no pads.

 

[scott99]

A leg injury in his Sophomore year derailed him for sure.

And I believe it hurt his combine, he ran a 4.50 on a still not 100% ankle. Last year seemed to be his first year where he was 100% healthy.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

The bigger hit to his draft stock was due to a sex scandal at LSU. He didn't break the law but there was some inappropriate conduct. Then he had the gambling thing. So, I have to guess he was docked heavily by most teams for off-the-field concerns. But he really hasn't done anything wrong post-draft as far as I am aware.

He had some things working against him for sure, but he was never considered a realistic first rounder as the draft approached. Whatever draft guide had him as the #1 WR is laughable. Look, I like him and think he can continue to carve out a role on this team, but let’s not pretend he’s a future #1 or was ever considered that by any respected draft outlets.

 

[scott99]

The bigger hit to his draft stock was due to a sex scandal at LSU. He didn't break the law but there was some inappropriate conduct. Then he had the gambling thing. So, I have to guess he was docked heavily by most teams for off-the-field concerns. But he really hasn't done anything wrong post-draft as far as I am aware.

The gambling thing didn’t come out publicly until last spring I believe. That being said, maybe teams knew about it before the draft. Didn’t hear about the sex scandal. I think it all has made him realize he is lucky to have a chance to play in the NFL. I also think he’s gonna be a good WR for the Pats. Most likely as WR 4.

 

[scott99]

He had some things working against him for sure, but he was never considered a realistic first rounder as the draft approached. Whatever draft guide had him as the #1 WR is laughable. Look, I like him and think he can continue to carve out a role on this team, but let’s not pretend he’s a future #1 or was ever considered that by any respected draft outlets.

Agreed, even if you read some of the scouting reports on him pre draft, they all said he’s not a #1 receiver and has a chance to be a good #2 or #3.

 

[RobertWeathers]

could also mean yesterday's porous O Line display is already terrifying the crap out of Josh

Way to be positive.

 

[scott99]

could also mean yesterday's porous O Line display is already terrifying the crap out of Josh

I think we can give the Oline some time. Hell, even Dante, his lines took a few weeks to gel, and he’s one of the greatest OLine coaches of all time. I remember Brady getting sacked early in seasons until Dante found the right combination.

 

[borg]

Way to be positive.

Lollipops
Puppies
Unicorns

This should get you through the day

 

[dliverey44]

I believe he's in the doghouse.

Is Bill back?

 

[raduray]

I fell for a fake tweet. My bad.

 

[Steve102]

Looks like more than a bum toe.

Schelfer strikes again.

Fake account. There was a thread on this already they deleted it.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

I love Vrabel! HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[UGAPatsfan]

The gambling thing didn’t come out publicly until last spring I believe. That being said, maybe teams knew about it before the draft. Didn’t hear about the sex scandal. I think it all has made him realize he is lucky to have a chance to play in the NFL. I also think he’s gonna be a good WR for the Pats. Most likely as WR 4.

It wasn’t just a sex scandal…it was a super weird one involving a coach, three ways, etc.

Icky

 

[RobertWeathers]

Lollipops
Puppies
Unicorns

This should get you through the day

Bourbon
Scotch
Beer

 

[Zoomnbyu]

could also mean yesterday's porous O Line display is already terrifying the crap out of Josh

Other than accounting for injuries everything in the first week of practice is scripted and planned out to accomplish pre-planned objectives and identifying training needs. Even players like Barmore slowly ramped up. There will be nothing other than next man up changed in the training plan this week.

 

[DaBruinz]

I have had this thought 10x this morning reading the first 2 days posts.

But these draft picks from the prior 2 years, especially the OL, wow... I really have to wonder what is going on.

Polk, Caeden Wallace, Sidy Sow, Layden Robinson... This is malpractice.

Especially the OL. Sow I can't complain about given where he's picked. But you gotta do better landing Wallace in the 60s and Robinson in the 4th.

It's a shame that none of the 3 are working out for us.

Biggest reach was Layden Robinson. He MIGHT end up as a journeyman Guard, but it was such a waste of a pick..

I expect Sow to bounce back this year and be the 1st guy off the bench at Guard.