The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[Thelonious]

This might be what you think you're doing but reality is you guys have used the past few seasons as an excuse to disproportionately give more credit to Brady and simultaneously taking it away from Bill with no care for the other players and coaches who you also marginalize in the process. And no care for the fans who just want to be able to celebrate everyone's contributions.

Again, there is no contradiction between "celebrating Bill's (or Tom's) contributions" on the one hand and taking note of his subsequent decline on the other. The fact that I can no longer lift a hundred- fifty-pound rock doesn't contradict that 15 years ago, I could. (Not a theoretical point. There's a damned rock in my yard I put there fifteen years ago, and it's on the far side of my septic system, so I can't use my tractor to move it, and I can no longer lift it by hand. I've been glaring at the damned thing for two weeks.Sic transit gloria mundi.)

The argument over whether Bill or Tom is more responsible for the dynasty is fun, I suppose, but ultimately the answer is, "Both were." It's sort of like arguing whether hydrogen or oxygen is more necessary to making water. Both are.

 

[Patsfan1645]

Look at the bright side, it is the black hole of **** posting for this site, it (slightly?) helps the rest of the threads stay on topic.



So, is it Tom who made the Dynasty happen, or is it Bill?

 

[signbabybrady]

You and the other poop flinging monkeys have shown nothing but contempt for every other fan here. The complete lack of restraint you've all put on display would be unseemly in a preschool. Dafuq man, you knew exactly what I meant but your inability to exercise even a modicum of impulse control just keeps driving the bus. I realize all I'm doing is inviting you to throw out further self justification but at least you're now aware the contempt you've displayed is now being reciprocated by yet another of the 'fans' you're supposedly championing.

I know adulting is hard but all of you please just stop with this BS

I don't think member on member fighting is the same thing as hating Bill Belichick. I couldn't post anything nice about Bill without haters responding it was all Brady so I stopped taking it and went offensive. And you know what? FEA.

 

[Tunescribe]

Again, there is no contradiction between "celebrating Bill's (or Tom's) contributions" on the one hand and taking note of his subsequent decline on the other. The fact that I can no longer lift a hundred- fifty-pound rock doesn't contradict that 15 years ago, I could. (Not a theoretical point. There's a damned rock in my yard I put there fifteen years ago, and it's on the far side of my septic system, so I can't use my tractor to move it, and I can no longer lift it by hand. I've been glaring at the damned thing for two weeks.Sic transit gloria mundi.)

The argument over whether Bill or Tom is more responsible for the dynasty is fun, I suppose, but ultimately the answer is, "Both were." It's sort of like arguing whether hydrogen or oxygen is more necessary to making water. Both are.

Yes, and both have said they couldn't have achieved success without the other. That wasn't mere hyperbole. A case in point was the weekly one-on-one game preps with Tom in which BB broke down opponent's defensive tape. His insights gave Brady a mental edge he executed through uncommon hard work and dedication.

By the time he got to Tampa, Tom knew enough via two decades with BB to more or less coach himself and enjoyed the support of a playoff-caliber roster. It goes without saying he never should've been allowed to leave New England.

 

[signbabybrady]

Again, there is no contradiction between "celebrating Bill's (or Tom's) contributions"

If only this were true. But that's not what happens. Too many times you guys rip BB to further prop up Brady. And I got fed up with it.

 

[maust]

I don't think member on member fighting is the same thing as hating Bill Belichick. I couldn't post anything nice about Bill without haters responding it was all Brady so I stopped taking it and went offensive. And you know what? FEA.

#asexpected there's the self justification
Your FEA crusade obviously has no care for who else gets 'F'd' in the process. Congrats you managed to remove a skin tag. Not sure the patient appreciates you using a howitzer to do it but there's definitely no trace of that skin tag.

 

[sb1]

A case in point was the weekly one-on-one game preps with Tom in which BB broke down opponent's defensive tape. His insights gave Brady a mental edge he executed through uncommon hard work and dedication.

Also clips of Brady giving some insight to BB from his own perspective as a generational offensive savant. Not too often a coach would get to benefit from that kind of insight and of course vice versa.

 

[signbabybrady]

Also clips of Brady giving some insight to BB from his own perspective as a generational offensive savant. Not too often a coach would get to benefit from that kind of insight and of course vice versa.

Every coach needs the on field perspective of their players.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Look at the bright side, it is the black hole of **** posting for this site, it (slightly?) helps the rest of the threads stay on topic.



So, is it Tom who made the Dynasty happen, or is it Bill?

Unfortunately it doesn’t. SB1 started a thread about opposing fans and signbabybrady instantly jumped on it and started ****, even though it didn’t even mention Belichick

 

[lancerman]

Unfortunately it doesn’t. SB1 started a thread about opposing fans and signbabybrady instantly jumped on it and started ****, even though it didn’t even mention Belichick

You can cut the sexual tension between them with a knife.

 

[maust]

You can cut the sexual tension between them with a knife.

Our own version of J.D. and Turk but without so much as a chuckle

 

[signbabybrady]

Unfortunately it doesn’t. SB1 started a thread about opposing fans and signbabybrady instantly jumped on it and started ****, even though it didn’t even mention Belichick

I didn't mention BB in that thread I merely pointed out SB1 isn't a Patriots fan. All he does is hate so it's a fair assumption.

 

[signbabybrady]

You can cut the sexual tension between them with a knife.

I'd rather BB

 

[h0c2000]

You and the other poop flinging monkeys have shown nothing but contempt for every other fan here. The complete lack of restraint you've all put on display would be unseemly in a preschool. Dafuq man, you knew exactly what I meant but your inability to exercise even a modicum of impulse control just keeps driving the bus. I realize all I'm doing is inviting you to throw out further self justification but at least you're now aware the contempt you've displayed is now being reciprocated by yet another of the 'fans' you're supposedly championing.

I know adulting is hard but all of you please just stop with this BS

@crawhammer was banned for far, far less.

 

[Wozzy]

He had full control.

Bob Kraft said otherwise at the owner’s meeting entering 2021. It was only after collaboration crashed and burned he said Bill had total control. Then Bill gave an interview a month ago and said personnel changed the last few years in New England.

But the haters here have to make Bill the sole scapegoat… so here we are.

 

[sb1]

Bob Kraft said otherwise at the owner’s meeting entering 2021. It was only after collaboration crashed and burned he said Bill had total control. Then Bill gave an interview a month ago and said personnel changed the last few years in New England.

But the haters here have to make Bill the sole scapegoat… so here we are.

Perry shares insight into Belichick's role in drafting Mac Jones

On a new Patriots Talk Podcast, Phil Perry reveals who had final say in the Pats drafting Mac Jones and how Bill Belichick viewed Jones at the time.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Belichick had final say as Perry says right here. It was his decision to draft Mac Jones. Sure perhaps with some input from the collaborative process but still his call... and like how it is with any leader in any organization his failure in NE falls on the GM alone. Nobody else. Full stop. Q.E.D. The end. All opinions to the contrary are wrong, period.

 

[Sect140]

Isn’t there a Bellichick/Brady Dynasty thread for the purpose that other threads aren’t taken over with the same debate over and over?

 

[maust]

Isn’t there a Bellichick/Brady Dynasty thread for the purpose that other threads aren’t taken over with the same debate over and over?

As solutions go, it seems to be somewhat less than effective

 

[Grogan14]

Perry shares insight into Belichick's role in drafting Mac Jones

On a new Patriots Talk Podcast, Phil Perry reveals who had final say in the Pats drafting Mac Jones and how Bill Belichick viewed Jones at the time.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

Belichick had final say as Perry says right here. It was his decision to draft Mac Jones. Sure perhaps with some input from the collaborative process but still his call... and like how it is with any leader in any organization his failure in NE falls on the GM alone. Nobody else. Full stop. Q.E.D. The end. All opinions to the contrary are wrong, period.

100% true. BB should take full accountability for the Mac Jones fiasco. Its a huge stain on his legacy. Poor judgment in drafting him and terrible job coaching and handling him.
Greatest coach of all time is only allowed a small number of mulligans. BB also completely failed to plan for successor after Brady’s departure.

 

[Huckleberry1]

You can cut the sexual tension between them with a knife.

Lmao