OT Derek Carr retires

[PP2]

Because Jerruh is routinely even dumber about extensions than the 49ers are with Purdy.

Jerruh is the gift that keeps on giving, even if his neck keeps on disappearin'

 

[Ring 6]

There were reports Notre Dame made him an offer in the realm of $6 to $8 million. Instead he’s got himself a non-guaranteed 4 years, $4 million deal.

It’s baffling.

Maybe it wasn’t about the money to him

 

[Huckleberry1]

Dak has not only wrecked the QB market once, but twice now. How in the world is he the highest paid in the NFL per year AGAIN? There’s something seriously wrong with him when the playoffs roll around.

Meanwhile, the 49ers are doing what they do best and letting another extension drag out in Brock Purdy who is willing to take a rumored $54M annually. The 49ers are really playing with fire on this one. If he wins a couple more playoff games this season, his value will sky rocket and easily surpass Prescott. On the other hand, if he has a season like last year, then the 9ers regain all the leverage.

I think last year gave them their leverage. I wouldn’t pay Purdy anything more than what Baker Mayfield got. He’s an average QB who apparently believes he’s Patrick Mahomes. The bottom line for me is that I don’t believe Purdy is a franchise QB, and I wouldn’t pay him like one. I think Mayfield is middle of the road and I don’t believe Purdy is even as good as he is. I think he’s in the Geno Smith, Sam Darnold category. And if he was the Patriots quarterback I would trade him for Mac Jones and go hard for the Arch Manning pick.

 

[Rob0729]

More money than he’d make in the NFL?

If the Saints hold a special place in his and his family’s heart, the cards may not unfold this way again.

IDK, both Peyton and Eli stayed in school for four years even though both could have come out early and been #1. I don't think it had anything to do with who was selecting #1 in their third years. They just believed it was better for their career to have the extra year in college.

Arch hasn't even started more than two games yet. I wouldn't bet on him coming out in 2026 even if New Orleans is #1.

And I don't even know if the Mannings want Arch to go to New Orleans. Sure, it is his grandfather's team, but they are a mess. Take away the legacy part and New Orleans is probably the last team Manning would want to go to. They have so badly mismanaged the cap that they spend every year just kicking the can on their massive cap problems and not spending to upgrade. They have very little talent and don't seem to draft well. After what happened with Eli and San Deigo, I think the Mannings prioritize putting their own in the best situation over anything else.

 

[Water Boy]

McDaniels saw this and knew about this; it was obvious at the Raiders

Interesting. I just thought McDaniels was seeing a doosh.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I think last year gave them their leverage. I wouldn’t pay Purdy anything more than what Baker Mayfield got. He’s an average QB who apparently believes he’s Patrick Mahomes. The bottom line for me is that I don’t believe Purdy is a franchise QB, and I wouldn’t pay him like one. I think Mayfield is middle of the road and I don’t believe Purdy is even as good as he is. I think he’s in the Geno Smith, Sam Darnold category. And if he was the Patriots quarterback I would trade him for Mac Jones and go hard for the Arch Manning pick.

They have the leverage for now as last year was certainly a bad look for Purdy. When he didn't have his usual All Pro supporting cast surrounding him, he folded like a lawn chair in big game moments. While his stats look decent, there were 5-6 winnable games he kept choking away. I don't see him having a bounce back year unless Aiyuk recovers (which I also don't see happening) and Ricky Pearsall takes his game to another level. McCaffrey and Kittle are a year older and at least one of them could hit the cliff this season. Their OL has been mediocre since Shanahan's arrival and the media has speculated Trent Williams could retire.

 

[turkeyneck]

Jerruh is the gift that keeps on giving, even if his neck keeps on disappearin'

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

Carr was the 17th highest paid player (career earnings) in NFL history for going 77-92 and making the playoffs once and going 1 and done.
Most overpaid player in history?

No one even comes close to Kurk Cousins in this regards IMO.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

The Saints have been working towards Arch since he was in high school

Which is crazy because he’s really not that great of a prospect when you look into it. If his last name wasn’t manning would anyone really think he’s worth #1, especially tanking for him. I’d say he’ll no.

 

[maust]

Which is crazy because he’s really not that great of a prospect when you look into it. If his last name wasn’t manning would anyone really think he’s worth #1, especially tanking for him. I’d say he’ll no.

Maybe, maybe not but the fact is his name IS Manning. And this is NOLA we're talking about. In NOLA that name is spoken with the kind of reverence we reserve for... well no one really... we're sort of an irreverent bunch.

 

[XLIX]

Which is crazy because he’s really not that great of a prospect when you look into it.

Anyone who looks into it would see a tremendous prospect and someone more than worthy of being selected #1 overall.

If his last name wasn’t manning would anyone really think he’s worth #1, especially tanking for him. I’d say he’ll no.

I used to think that way.

Then I saw him play. I doubt you can say the same since you hold the above opinion.

 

[Ring 6]

No one even comes close to Kurk Cousins in this regards IMO.

Cousins had a winning record at least got his team to the playoffs 3 times and won a playoff game.
I guess im looking at the Carr as literally being a detriment to his teams while being the highest paid player. Cousins was paid more but accomplished more too b

 

[Brick27]

Saying Arch isn’t a top prospect is absolute asinine Pats homer drivel

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

Cousins had a winning record at least got his team to the playoffs 3 times and won a playoff game.
I guess im looking at the Carr as literally being a detriment to his teams while being the highest paid player. Cousins was paid more but accomplished more too b

David Carr career earnings 84 million
Kirk Cousins career Earnings 338 million

At the end of the day, they basically have the same to show for in their participation trophy rooms. Kirk literally played the NFL like a fiddle. Most of his **** was guaranteed. Good for him. No hate. Masterclass in luck and business.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

Saying Arch isn’t a top prospect is absolute asinine Pats homer drivel

I’m not saying he’s not good. I just don’t think he’s an elite prospect in the group of a “suck for luck” or “tank for Trevor”, or even a “Tank for Tua” level of successful/ high upside prospect. At the end of the day, if you follow Texas football he didn’t win out the starting job this year, despite what his familys media connections might want you to believe, simply because he wasn’t better then ewers. A QB who just went in the 7th round. So I guess if you think he’ll grow exponentially this coming season, then that’s fair. If you were an owner/GM/coach, would you really risk tanking in hoping he’s your savor?

If anything he’s a Maye level prospect at this point, and nobody was betting the farm on hopes of landing Maye.

 

[XLIX]

David Carr career earnings 84 million
Kirk Cousins career Earnings 338 million

At the end of the day, they basically have the same to show for in their participation trophy rooms. Kirk literally played the NFL like a fiddle. Most of his **** was guaranteed. Good for him. No hate. Masterclass in luck and business.

Kirk had to suffer in Washington for 6 years before he ever got a say in his own career. He was fortunate enough to have a huge contract offered him after the franchise year.

Carr should’ve left Oakland as soon as he could.

 

[Hawaiipatsfan2]

Kirk had to suffer in Washington for 6 years before he ever got a say in his own career. He was fortunate enough to have a huge contract offered him after the franchise year.

Carr should’ve left Oakland as soon as he could.

He got tagged two times in a row in WA, then got a huge guarante contract in Minnesota, despite doing little in WA. Pretty sure if you asked any of those GM’s if they’d do it again, the response would be “He’ll no”

 

[Brick27]

I’m not saying he’s not good. I just don’t think he’s an elite prospect in the group of a “suck for luck” or “tank for Trevor”, or even a “Tank for Tua” level of successful/ high upside prospect. At the end of the day, if you follow Texas football he didn’t win out the starting job this year, despite what his familys media connections might want you to believe, simply because he wasn’t better then ewers. A QB who just went in the 7th round. So I guess if you think he’ll grow exponentially this coming season, then that’s fair. If you were an owner/GM/coach, would you really risk tanking in hoping he’s your savor?

If anything he’s a Maye level prospect at this point, and nobody was betting the farm on hopes of landing Maye.

Maye would have gone 1st overall this year over Ward. If Arch at this point is Maye level as a prospect, that’s pretty damn good.

Arch will have another year of growth, and that’s where the prospect part comes into play. Who knows if he lives up to it, but the potential is very much there.

In general, the tanking deal seems silly for any team on any given year. I don’t really know what to make of that until seeing this coming season.

 

[Ring 6]

David Carr career earnings 84 million
Kirk Cousins career Earnings 338 million

At the end of the day, they basically have the same to show for in their participation trophy rooms. Kirk literally played the NFL like a fiddle. Most of his **** was guaranteed. Good for him. No hate. Masterclass in luck and business.

Those numbers are not correct.

I’m just saying at least Cousins won more games than he lost. Carr shouldn’t have been paid anything.

 

[Froob]

Wish he retired before we traded Milton... cest la vie

if they had any interest in the kid, they would have traded for him regardless. He went for basically nothing