Campbell and Skoronski similarities

[Patsgofor4]

Dear Sam,

You suck. A lot.


Sincerely,

Patsfans.com

 

[PP2]

Ty Rex!!! Here we go, baby!!!

 

[farn]

Only here to support Sam. I’m fine w taking WC and I tend to believe a good player will find ways to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses.

But Sam’s commitment is the real story here. And if WC becomes a bust - for whomever drafts him - he should def make it known on patsfans…

 

[Huckleberry1]

While I’m not surprised that you whine constantly Sam, I am surprised that you are willing to brazenly lie about things that you know aren’t true. Everyone knows that Vrabel didn’t pick the players in Tennessee, just as everyone knows that he is the one picking them now, yet you just keep coming on here and trotting out the same old lies as though they support your whines.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Well well well, turns out that Will Campbell and Joe Alt had almost identical RAS scores. Both top 1% of all tackles since 1987.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Not identical but have striking similarities

They are both white too. And they are big. And they have relatively long last names.

 

[maust]

While I’m not surprised that you whine constantly Sam, I am surprised that you are willing to brazenly lie about things that you know aren’t true.

Right? WTF, I thought we'd established that's Andy's job.

 

[State]

Will is a couple of inches taller, with arms a tad longer, and is more athletic. More important, he’s a born and bred Louisiana boy. A Cajun. A redneck on steroids. His parents own a sporting goods store down there.

His baby bottle was filled with Pappy’s leftover chewing tobacco juices.

Peter came from suburban Chicago. An effete yankee. For Pete’s sake, they filmed that movie with Molly Ringwald and Emilio Estevez at his high school. Breakfast Club I think it’s called.

Even zombies run away from Cajuns. Suburban Chicago folks immediately get disemboweled.

Having said that Ashton Jeanty=Walter Payton.

But you can’t draft RBs at 4. Just like you can’t bench all pro QBs who were the very first player drafted for a sixth-rounder who couldn’t crack the starting lineup in college until the middle of his senior season.

 

[Kdo5]

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This guy started all 33 games at LT in college
Just like WC
Short arms just like WC
Similar size
Drafted by Titans in forst round at 11 to play LT
Guess what happened?
He could not cut it at LT and was moved to guard in first season

Same will happen with WC
Do not draft a guard with 4 th pick
Listen to Dante Scarnechia

WC is a guard and we are selecting a guard at #4 in the hopes that the unlikely happens: that he defies the history of short armed OL and remains a tackle.

It sucks but the team is going to be risk averse and ensure that they get a nice player overall with smarts and a good attitude. It is what it is but if we do try him at LT that kid is going to be put through the wringer any time he gives up a pressure or hit on Maye.

His arms were enough of a deal breaker for the majority mere weeks ago but now as it’s clear he is the pick people are lining up to say how it suddenly isn’t a real issue.

I’d be thrilled to be wrong about it.

 

[Grogan14]

I hope I am wrong and will be rooting for him to succeed.

 

[patfanken]

Skoronski has a 79 1/2 in wingspan and Campbells is 77 3/8.

This is the key stat - Campbell's wing span is 5-7 inches SHORTER than the other top OT prospects. This is the stat that worries me, NOT his armlength which are fractions of an inch difference with his contemporaries

And while I have been a vocal opponent of picking Campbell at #4, he is a vastly superior athlete over Sikorsky and will probably be an adequate LT starter in the league because of that superior athletic ability. But the fact remains his physical limitation limits his ceiling to the point where I feel he's not worth the #4 pick.

If LT is a must for you, then I would prefer the higher ceiling of Membou who is almost as good an athlete, but has the higher ceiling, with the negative being you'd have to deal with issues that come early one in transitioning from the right side to the left.

So the question becomes, are you drafting a LT to be the long term answer to our OL woes, or are you going to draft him for what we get next year. I believe that Membou, long term, will be the better LT, while Campbell might be better next year.

 

[PWRxWLF]

What was Matt Light's Wingspan?

Not sure. Couldn’t find it.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

The combine arm measures were faulty:

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His arms are 33", the same as Slater and within 1/4" of Sewell, two of the top 5 OT's in the league
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Also, wingspan doesn't matter at all. When does an OT ever have both his arms extended out to his sides?

 

[40yrpatsfan]

This is the key stat - Campbell's wing span is 5-7 inches SHORTER than the other top OT prospects. This is the stat that worries me, NOT his armlength which are fractions of an inch difference with his contemporaries

And while I have been a vocal opponent of picking Campbell at #4, he is a vastly superior athlete over Sikorsky and will probably be an adequate LT starter in the league because of that superior athletic ability. But the fact remains his physical limitation limits his ceiling to the point where I feel he's not worth the #4 pick.

If LT is a must for you, then I would prefer the higher ceiling of Membou who is almost as good an athlete, but has the higher ceiling, with the negative being you'd have to deal with issues that come early one in transitioning from the right side to the left.

So the question becomes, are you drafting a LT to be the long term answer to our OL woes, or are you going to draft him for what we get next year. I believe that Membou, long term, will be the better LT, while Campbell might be better next year.

Ken, why does wingspan concern you? I don't get that one.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Ken, why does wingspan concern you? I don't get that one.

The wider you are the better. Esp the more you go towards the edge. It allows you to utilize your length as much as possible. You see Campbell play narrow quite a bit bc of his wingspan.

obviously not Ken but ...

 

[imahobgoblin]

Ken, why does wingspan concern you? I don't get that one.

Because the media made it up and you should listen to them.

 

[dliverey44]

I can’t imagine an on field application where it would matter. An inch of arm length is a knuckle. Wingspan never comes into play when blocking.

The only time I can think of needing a better wingspan is when the DL is running a stunt/twist and they need to keep a hand on one guy until the guard latches on, there have several times that I have seen a OT keep a hand on 2 different guys. He will not have his arms straight out to the side, but a limited wingspan could impact that ability that might happen once or twice a game

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

Because the media made it up and you should listen to them.

He clearly explained it earlier.

Because it makes it easier for edge players to get their hands on him without him being able to block them first.

I am not going to pretend that I understand the physics of it, but Ken did explain it.

 

[imahobgoblin]

He clearly explained it earlier.

Because it makes it easier for edge players to get their hands on him without him being able to block them first.

I am not going to pretend that I understand the physics of it, but Ken did explain it.

Because the media made it up and you should listen to them.

 

[Patsfan1645]

Here is the thing that gets me about all the talk about Campbell. He was consistently considered by the majority of so called experts as the top of the group for LT coming into this draft. Once the combine came around and his measurements we now have people saying he will be a guard in the NFL because of arm length/wingspan. But yet those experts who ranked him in college based it on game footage going against guys who are currently or will be playing in the NFL. I get the concern but just like everything in life there are those outliers and he may very well be someone who breaks the mold. I trust the game play more than a measurement. I mean if they didn't do the measurements at the combine/pro day would half the people who have issues with him being a LT still have concerns as to whether he could play the position or not?