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[Huckleberry1]

Cam Robinson | Cleveland Browns T | NFL and PFF stats

NFL and PFF player stats for Cleveland Browns T Cam Robinson on Pro Football Focus.

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Is there a second PFF that I don't know about? Where did you come up with 15 QB pressures for the entire season? He gave up 9 in week 18 alone.

PFF assigned FIFTY-TWO pressures to Robinson in 2024, which is 140th out of 141 OTs.

This is accurate. Robinson gave up 52 pressures, and 9 in one game. If they sign him it needs to be a 2 year deal, or structured so that there won’t be any dead money when they release him year 3. And if they are planning on going for a left tackle with their first pick they shouldn’t sign him at all, but should go with Lowe as the back up to the 1st round tackle.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Please do NOT sign Robinson, he's a fkn bum

 

[dliverey44]

Cam Robinson got beat like a Drum, yet some people want him?
There's a GOOD REASON he is still out there.
He sux.

He looked better in Jacksonville, I thought, this year and previously. He looked bad in Minnesota, but I would think that the Pats would be in on him for sure. As long as the money is not ridiculous, I want him on the team.

Lowe was hurt a few times last year and Robinson a few injuries over the years. I am afraid that Robinson is asking for a lot more than the Pats are willing to give right now.

Its telling that noone else seems to be beating down his door.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

That's because he Sux IMO.
I really hope they don't sign this BUM, draft Campbell, and use Lowe as a swing.

 

[mgteich]

That's because he Sux IMO.
I really hope they don't sign this BUM, draft Campbell, and use Lowe as a swing.

and draft a second LT in the 2nd or 3rd round

But I believe that you have stated the default.
LT: top 6 pick as starter
RT: Moses as starter
swing and backup LT: Lowe
#4: Wallace or additional draftee

 

[WhatJustHappened]

IDGAS about Shiny toys, FIX the OL, games are won in the TRENCHES, and we have ****.
Defense has been upgraded.
Offensive line has been Offensive as of late, let's fix that 1st, and foremost.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Care to think that one over?


In the 2024 NFL season, Cam Robinson allowed 15 quarterback pressures according to Pro Football Focus (PFF).

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• PFF Stats: Robinson's PFF pass-blocking grade was 72.2, with an overall grade of 69.4.
  
  
• Additional Stats: He allowed 4 sacks, 3 QB hits, and 15 pressures.
  

In the 2024 NFL season, Vederian Lowe allowed 33 quarterback pressures.

Here's a more detailed breakdown based on the search results:

• Total Pressures: Multiple sources indicate Lowe allowed 33 quarterback pressures.
• Sacks: He also allowed 5 sacks.
• Other Stats: He played 804 offensive snaps and had 13 penalties.

He allowed 52 pressures…good for 140th in the league. And 12 in the postseason alone .

Per PFF.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Cam SUX.

 

[Toofy]

and draft a second LT in the 2nd or 3rd round

But I believe that you have stated the default.
LT: top 6 pick as starter
RT: Moses as starter
swing and backup LT: Lowe
#4: Wallace or additional draftee

This is what we need to do draft two tackles using first 2 picks. If we can trade down to 6 and still draft Campbell that would be a win and then trade up for conerly Jr for late 1st round.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Cam SUX.

Watched a vikngs night game late in the year
He jumped off sides 3 times before the half even ended

 

[DaBruinz]

Welcome aboard our new Free Safety Epps
Here is a fair scouting report video from when he was signed by the Raiders. BTW we need a guy like this doing videos for Pats. What a voice!

FYI - Marcus Epps has issues with Missed Tackles.

In 2022, on 1239 snaps, he had 15 missed tackles.
in 2023, on 1030 snaps, he had 13 missed tackles.
In 2024, on 176 snaps, he had 7 missed tackles.

Guy has 3 career ints and 13 career PBUs.

Not impressed at ALL with this guy. I think he's a waste of a signing.

 

[DaBruinz]

Money would serve us better in Kupp's pocket instead of Krafts.

I don't know how you guys think we are going to spend this money? You're all just happy with Kraft ripping us off again. Ring 6 was dead on about this last year and nothing has changed.

Just stop. Kupp wasn't coming to New England. No. Ring6 wasn't dead on. He was wrong. If you think that things haven't changed, then you're not paying attention. $284M in new contracts shows that things have changed.

 

[DaBruinz]

Better hope that a big trade is coming at WR. I don’t know why this front office drafted Drake Maye if they hate him that much.

Our WRs are #4s at best, the OL is still a mess but on the bright side the TE are decent.

I still don’t think the offense will be much improved from last year.

You're the same sort that claimed that the likes of Patten, Branch, Brown, and Givens were all #4 type receivers. Yet the Pats won 3 SBs with them.

Boutte is an adequate #2 and is still improving. Pop Douglas is an excellent slot receiver. The Pats have 2 very good TEs in Henry and Hooper. When Healthy, Bourne is a Capable #2 type receiver. We don't know what they have in Polk and Baker because of the garbage coaching they got. Mack Hollins is the only TRUE #4/#5 WR type. His track record shows that he's not that good.

While Moses is long in the tooth, he's a very solid RT. Even on a crappy Jets team last year. Putting him next to Onwenu should solidify the right side of the line. The only reason I didn't have him on my list was because of Age.

The Pats have questions at LT, LG, and OC. A lot depends on what the Pats do with Strange. Do they let him compete for the OC position? Do they move him back to LG? Or do they move him to LT because he's got the same measurements as Matt Light (though longer arms) but better athleticism.

Lowe took too many penalties at LT last year. He also gave up too many pressures (sacks/hits/hurries). But he in the same realm as Cam Robinson and Dan Moore in terms of pressures. Guys that people on this board clamored about. I have no idea if Lowe will do better with Marrone as his coach. He can definitely be upgraded upon.

Contrary to certain people on this board, Sidy Sow actually played very well as a rookie at LG. Many hoped that he'd take over last year while Strange was on the IR. That didn't happen. Instead, we were saddled with the garbage play of Layden Robinson, Nick Leverett, and Michael Jordan.

As fans, we don't know how much of the garbage we saw on the Offense was because of the Bad Coaching Staff and how much of it was the players themselves. How much of what we saw was the Pats trying to implement more of the Shanahan Outside Zone system despite having players who have skill sets more in-line with straight man-blocking or the standard zone blocking.

It certainly didn't help that Mayo/Wolf didn't seem to understand how to build a team. Even in BBs worst year, he never had 32 O-Line come through the door. Considering how important continuity for the O-line, that sort of turnover definitely didn't help matters. The injuries also didn't help matters. With Strange starting the year injured, then loosing Wallace and Andrews for the season.

 

[DaBruinz]

He stinks too. Not much of a difference to be honest

How do you know he stinks? Because he hasn't been a regular starter in his career? OH. I know. You're basing it on the 1 Offensive snap last season when he was the primary back-up along the interior for the Jets and they didn't have any injuries there, so he rode the bench. How many years did the likes of Gorin, Connolly and Hochstein ride the bench without taking offensive snaps before they did?

Schweitzer wasn't on my list because of age, but he's had starts at all 3 interior positions during his career. That makes him a potential valuable piece. He'll be a camp body who will be pushing Sow, Jake Andrews, Layden Robinson, Lecitus Smith, Ben Brown, Tyrese Robinson and Cole Strange for a roster spot. You need to have players like Schweitzer for camp.

I would have thought that a vet fan like yourself would understand this.

 

[DaBruinz]

Did we try to sign Bekton? We should have. Maybe he did not want to play here. Vrabel said they only want to sign players who want to play here. Maybe no good offensive players want to be here? The culture thing is great but without talent it will only take you so far.
As of 3-13 grade for UFA on offense is F-

Why should they have tried to sign Becton? So he could switch to another DIFFERENT position? Why would he want to do that?

People like YOU said the same thing about the 2001 team..

As of 3-13, your ability to grade anything in regards to football remains at a ZERO.

 

[DaBruinz]

Starting to expect that we won’t bring in a single one of these guys.

One of the things mentioned about Cam Robinson recently was his attitude. That teams couldn't be sure that Robinson wasn't just going to cash in and then kick back and coast.

For the O-line, I mentioned WAY back that I didn't think they'd look at OG, but if they did, they should look at Jenkins. It's interesting that, after coming off a career year, Jenkins hasn't had more interest.

Tyron Smith has the same issues as he did last year in free agency. He can't stay healthy. Last year made 9 straight years where he was injured for at least 3 games.

Scherff isn't the player that he was coming out of Washington. He's regressed.

The others aren't better than what the Pats have.


In terms of receivers:
Allen is 32
Lockett is a slot guy and 32.
Cooks - going to be 32.

Williams has familiarity with Reynolds and Chark from their time in Detroit
Vrabel is familiar with Elijah Moore.

 

[DaBruinz]

I don't necessarily expect every move to work but I'm not giving them credit for not even trying to fill these holes. Regardless how difficult you think they are to fill there is no debate that nothing doesn't fix it. I don't really care what week of free agency it is when they finally do address then I'll consider the moves until then it's neglect not to try.

Please show us your PROOF that they haven't TRIED to fill holes? If you can't show proof, then your basically throwing stuff at the wall and hoping no one calls you out on it.

 

[DaBruinz]

The wholly Trinity of woulda coulda shoulda.

Throw in a little wishful thinking of a trade or release.

When they actually make these moves we can talk until then their offensive moves can be considered nothing short of neglect.

Says the guy who has NO PROOF of what he's spewing.

 

[DaBruinz]

It's a waste of time they chose not take those options if you didn't want of those options in the article then I don't know what to say other than enjoy more Lowe, Polk, and Bourne.

Prove that the Patriots are the ones who chose not to take those options in free agency. OH. YOU CAN'T.

 

[DaBruinz]

I know we have trash at multiple key positions. Positions that have had plenty of movement this off-season if you want to make excuses then that's your choice. Even if I accept your excuses it doesn't fix the problem so I'm still not happy.

You think that the Patriots not getting certain players is a sign of them not doing anything. It can't be that YOUR assumptions are garbage and not based in reality. It has to be the Patriots.

Here is REALITY. You don't know what was attempted and what wasn't.



The Patriots have a new coaching staff. That staff is bringing in players they've worked with who they have said have the difference in attitude that they're looking for.

I think it was pointed out that every signing they've made, the player has played for one of the coaches on the new staff.

Opinion:
Vrabel and Co targeted players whom they worked with and would bring change in attitude to the locker-room and support the coaching. By that same token, they have avoided players they haven't worked with OR players with whom they don't feel would fit in the locker-room they're trying to build.

Hence, not having signed the likes of Elijah Moore, Josh Reynolds, Jedrick Wills, etc.

Something to think about:
Why sign players who will not bring in the attitude that the new coaching staff wants in the locker-room? Wouldn't that be detrimental to the locker-room?