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[Hyped]

I do wonder if in this draft, where there's not a ton of trade-up interest, if the trade-down deal compensation will be less than normal.

I wouldn’t care if the Raiders gave us a 5th to move up two spots…. In my mind the 6th pick plus a 5th rounder is better than staying pat and taking Campbell. We could draft Tet…then use that 5th and a 3rd to trade back into round 1 to take Connery Jr. or Simmons….

 

[The Gr8est]

I think we need to stop looking at 4 and expect an astronomical player to be there because it's the 4th pick. If there are only two this year then there are only two this year. Then you start looking for the solid blue chip talent with high floors: Campbell, Warren, Graham, Tet.

And for the whole trade-down crowd, if we're not seeing the amazing player to grab at 4, most of the other teams aren't seeing one either.

Would Campbell at #4, be a possible fix at LT, but a definite fix at LG which makes Lowe better worthwhile?

He’d be a team culture plus.

 

[Headcase]

Baker? Based upon what?
Boutte shouldn’t be more than WR4 and Douglas is the slot guy.

I'd say Douglas is actually isn't the slot, at least in how Josh has run the offense before, he won't stand up to the workload previous guys took.

 

[Hyped]

As for Kupp, I watched him play A LOT last year because I happened to own Nacua and Kupp in my main FFL league as well as living out here on the West Coast…

He was hurt last year. Nacua got all the targets or they went deep to Robinson or they used Krysten Williams. Kupp can still play….he is far from being done.

 

[mike_usagisan]

He's on a 1K yard pace because they force feed him a high volume of underneath, low impact targets. It's not really that impressive.

I acknowledged that he'd be our best player and a solid add to the team, but many are seeing the name and assuming he's way better than he is at this stage is all I'm saying. He's a #3 on a good WR depth chart right now, but in good scheme/overall offense around him then I guess yeah, he can be a #2.

Do we have a slot receiver? I'm assuming Pop but it might be good to have Cupp available there too. Like Edelman and Amendola.

 

[Patsfan1645]

With Tet, there's also a lot of area between total boom and total bust. Like, let's say he comes in here and puts up annual state lines like 2021 Brandon Llloyd or 2014 Brandon LaFell. That's not going to excite anyone, but that's a good solid X receiver who will check the box.

I'm not sure McDaniels' offense is even really built for the X receiver to be the high volume, eye-popping statistical performer. I think his offense is more about that guy filling a role and opening up space for the Z receivers, the slots, the TEs, the RBs to catch a lot of passes on routes that get them open by using that space. Randy Moss is the only X he ever really features because duh that's Randy Moss. Even in LV with Adams and DEN back in the day with B-Marsh I think he's always put his high volume guy at Z or the slot.

I'm not advocating for them to take someone like that #4 of course, just saying there's room for Tet to be a "bad pick" at #4 but also a very good piece for us. Same way Campbell would be a "bad pick" at #4 if he flops at LT and ends up as a LG but if he's a good LG then that's not a disaster by any stretch.

I am concerned that Tet did not participate in the combine. It was a chance to show his 40 times which I am guessing is not that good and he was told to sit it out. The fear of NH 2.0 lingers. I was high on him early on but not as much now. I clearly would not want him at #4. I think I would look to pick up late 1st/ early 2nd either Golden or Egbuka.

 

[signbabybrady]

With Tet, there's also a lot of area between total boom and total bust. Like, let's say he comes in here and puts up annual state lines like 2021 Brandon Llloyd or 2014 Brandon LaFell. That's not going to excite anyone, but that's a good solid X receiver who will check the box.

I'm not sure McDaniels' offense is even really built for the X receiver to be the high volume, eye-popping statistical performer. I think his offense is more about that guy filling a role and opening up space for the Z receivers, the slots, the TEs, the RBs to catch a lot of passes on routes that get them open by using that space. Randy Moss is the only X he ever really features because duh that's Randy Moss. Even in LV with Adams and DEN back in the day with B-Marsh I think he's always put his high volume guy at Z or the slot.

I'm not advocating for them to take someone like that #4 of course, just saying there's room for Tet to be a "bad pick" at #4 but also a very good piece for us. Same way Campbell would be a "bad pick" at #4 if he flops at LT and ends up as a LG but if he's a good LG then that's not a disaster by any stretch.

Thank you. That was pretty much my point and you said it better.

Also normally I wouldn't advocate for this type of player at 4 either. But if Carter and Hunter don't make it we are settling for something so it may as well be at a position of high need and one that we've struggled to fill.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I cant say whether he can play a full 18 games or whether he needs a snap count but he had that high ankle sprain last year and those injuries always seem to linger. Here is his snap count and it appears when health he is in for at least 80%.

Yep. My belief is because of his age, pounding his body has taken, and no longer the 1st option in all situations and matchups, they'll need to pace him. Whether it's 25% snaps one game or 50% another I don't think he can handle playing 90%+ snaps multiple weeks in a row anymore.

Maybe McVay knew this which was why he didn't see double digit targets after Thanksgiving.

 

[Headcase]

Not surprising. I am guessing he wants big guaranteed $ and the Pats want low guarantees but will replace those with high incentives. Such as pro bowl/all pro selection, snap count. I don't think I've ever seen incentives for "sacks allowed" etc but curious if it's possible.

Counting stats would be rough to count for OL, who's stats are you going to use?

 

[signbabybrady]

I am concerned that Tet did not participate in the combine. It was a chance to show his 40 times which I am guessing is not that good and he was told to sit it out. The fear of NH 2.0 lingers. I was high on him early on but not as much now. I clearly would not want him at #4. I think I would look to pick up late 1st/ early 2nd either Golden or Egbuka.

I really don't think the Harry comparisons are fair.

That's more a Patriots fan PTSD thing.

Even with him slipping a little he is way more of a prospect than someone selected 32.

 

[signbabybrady]

Counting stats would be rough to count for OL, who's stats are you going to use?

We did incentives with Trent Brown.

 

[mike_usagisan]

We did incentives with Trent Brown.

And Wynn was in his contract year when he decided to play like ****.

If we get Robinson, I think we have to hope for his Jacksonville play and not his Vikings play.

 

[Patsfan1645]

I really don't think the Harry comparisons are fair.

That's more a Patriots fan PTSD thing.

Even with him slipping a little he is way more of a prospect than someone selected 32.

Dont get me wrong...I love the kid but am gun shy. I really wish we knew his 40 times.....maybe at his pro day. I think its around the middle of the month.

 

[signbabybrady]

Dont get me wrong...I love the kid but am gun shy. I really wish we knew his 40 times.....maybe at his pro day. I think its around the middle of the month.

I'll wait until then and if his pro day is bad or if he just continues to fall I'll take him off the board then. Right now I have him ahead of Campbell.

 

[Headcase]

We did incentives with Trent Brown.

In his last season here all his incentives were playtime based, not counting stats.

 

[Grogan14]

Dont get me wrong...I love the kid but am gun shy. I really wish we knew his 40 times.....maybe at his pro day. I think its around the middle of the month.

Upside is Mike Evans. Evans diid not have a fast 40.

 

[Headcase]

Dont get me wrong...I love the kid but am gun shy. I really wish we knew his 40 times.....maybe at his pro day. I think its around the middle of the month.

Unless media/fan pressure gets to him, he isn't planning to run.

 

[Ross12]

Counting stats would be rough to count for OL, who's stats are you going to use?

Yeah, turns out it's not permitted by league rules anyway.

 

[Love The Drake]

Upside is Mike Evans. Evans diid not have a fast 40.

I’m terrified.

I’d rather draft 2 WRs in the second and third than him in the first.

 

[Headcase]

Yeah, turns out it's not permitted by league rules anyway.

Yeah that is what I get for looking at posts that are 5hrs old.