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[Hyped]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25170008-aaron-rodgers-rumors-contract-terms-not-issue-giants-decision-likely-wednesday

This is not good for us. We need the Tits, Browns, and G-Men to have an empty QB room on draft night...

 

[bakes781]

Not sure that would fly with him to come here. If a deal is loaded up with incentives, is this really a great place to hit them? Still a bad OL that might force the team to run more so the QB doesn't get killed. As encouraging as Maye looks, still only a 2nd year guy who didn't post great numbers last year. No complimentary receivers to (and this is particularly important for a slot type like Kupp) open up space for you to get open by drawing attention. it just doesn't seem like a good situation for him to come in and earn those incentives you're lacing his deal with.

Depends on the incentive. Is asking him just to be active for 10 games a reasonable incentive?

 

[mike_usagisan]

This is not good for us. We need the Tits, Browns, and G-Men to have an empty QB room on draft night...

Seems like Browns might end up with Kirk Cousins and Giants might end up with Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I think it depends on whether Cleveland gets Kirk Cousins (or someone else) as QB.

Carter is who I really want, so I'm trying to speak Hunter to CLE into existence. I'm hoping TEN sees Cam Ward as a franchise QB and takes him #1, then CLE sees Hunter as the better pick because they have Garrett locked up and huge needs at #2 WR and CB, and then the Giants think Sanders is a QB prospect worth going for (and they already have Burns/Thibedeaux at EDGE). A long term front of Carter/Barmore/Williams/White could be lethal.

 

[Boomer B]

I wish the site would ban all these asinine looping video things, whatever they are called. They are childish.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Depends on the incentive. Is asking him just to be active for 10 games a reasonable incentive?

Sure that's a reasonable incentive but I don't want to pay him a lot of money just to be active for 10 games. Availability is an issue for him, but my bigger issue with him is that he really hasn't been good the last few years. He's a slot so he gets volume but he's not explosive enough anymore to be higher than WR3 on a good depth chart, maybe filling #2 on a weaker but still ok depth chart.

 

[Patsfan1645]

I'm not saying he wouldn't be a solid add, but I think people really need to temper their expectations here. Kupp really isn't all that good anymore. Is he best WR? Yes. Does he change the statement that we don't currently have a WR who should be higher than 3rd on a good depth chart? Not at this stage of his career, he doesn't. And he's not even a good complimentary skill set to the guys we do have.

Kupp 2025 is not Kupp 2021 but he is better than any receiver we have. In 12 games last year he had 67 receptions, 710 yards and 6 TDS. Douglas was our best receiver he played in 17 games (5 more than Kupp) 66 receptions, 621 yards 3 TDS. If you ran Kupps number out to 18 games he breaks 1000 yards and 9 TDS, I would take those numbers for a #2 any day. Until a true #1 walks through that door you take whomever you can to improve your team and he would clearly improve the wide receiver room.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

This is not good for us. We need the Tits, Browns, and G-Men to have an empty QB room on draft night...

It does kind of speak about the quality of the draft, though, where if no QB is taken in the top 3, then who is the player that would go 3rd after Carter and Hunter? I’m hoping Robinson signs that incentive laden deal with us, obviously just so we have someone and we know the front office would be reasonably comfortable with it, but also so we’re not boxed into a corner in drafting a LT at 4. I’d like to take best player available for our scheme, knowing we need an infusion of young talent in general. By the nature of my question about who’s taken at 3, it implies whoever we’d be taking at 4 would be an overdraft compared to other years, but you can only work with what you have, and BPA would make it the least possible overdraft.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Kupp 2025 is not Kupp 2021 but he is better than any receiver we have. In 12 games last year he had 67 receptions, 710 yards and 6 TDS. Douglas was our best receiver he played in 17 games (5 more than Kupp) 66 receptions, 621 yards 3 TDS. If you ran Kupps number out to 18 games he breaks 1000 yards and 9 TDS, I would take those numbers for a #2 any day. Until a true #1 walks through that door you take whomever you can to improve your team and he would clearly improve the wide receiver room.

Agree but unless he's playing 1/2 the snaps a game, Kupp can't go 17 games anymore so his numbers are what they are.

 

[signbabybrady]

Carter is who I really want, so I'm trying to speak Hunter to CLE into existence. I'm hoping TEN sees Cam Ward as a franchise QB and takes him #1, then CLE sees Hunter as the better pick because they have Garrett locked up and huge needs at #2 WR and CB, and then the Giants think Sanders is a QB prospect worth going for (and they already have Burns/Thibedeaux at EDGE). A long term front of Carter/Barmore/Williams/White could be lethal.

Lol, I want Hunter and I've been trying to pull out all the voodoo I can to make it happen too. We might need to coordinate or we could cancel each other out and wind up with Jeanty.

 

[mike_usagisan]

It does kind of speak about the quality of the draft, though, where if no QB is taken in the top 3, then who is the player that would go 3rd after Carter and Hunter? I’m hoping Robinson signs that incentive laden deal with us, obviously just so we have someone and we know the front office would be reasonably comfortable with it, but also so we’re not boxed into a corner in drafting a LT at 4. I’d like to take best player available for our scheme, knowing we need an infusion of young talent in general. By the nature of my question about who’s taken at 3, it implies whoever we’d be taking at 4 would be an overdraft compared to other years, but you can only work with what you have, and BPA would make it the least possible overdraft.

I think we need to stop looking at 4 and expect an astronomical player to be there because it's the 4th pick. If there are only two this year then there are only two this year. Then you start looking for the solid blue chip talent with high floors: Campbell, Warren, Graham, Tet.

And for the whole trade-down crowd, if we're not seeing the amazing player to grab at 4, most of the other teams aren't seeing one either.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Kupp 2025 is not Kupp 2021 but he is better than any receiver we have. In 12 games last year he had 67 receptions, 710 yards and 6 TDS. Douglas was our best receiver he played in 17 games (5 more than Kupp) 66 receptions, 621 yards 3 TDS. If you ran Kupps number out to 18 games he breaks 1000 yards and 9 TDS, I would take those numbers for a #2 any day. Until a true #1 walks through that door you take whomever you can to improve your team and he would clearly improve the wide receiver room.

He's on a 1K yard pace because they force feed him a high volume of underneath, low impact targets. It's not really that impressive.

I acknowledged that he'd be our best player and a solid add to the team, but many are seeing the name and assuming he's way better than he is at this stage is all I'm saying. He's a #3 on a good WR depth chart right now, but in good scheme/overall offense around him then I guess yeah, he can be a #2.

 

[signbabybrady]

Can not count on hunter being available. Get Aiyuk.
Hunter will also want to play CB. Not sure he will be happy only playing WR

But we can count on either Hunter or McMillan being available. With our needs still plenty I'm starting to think that by going with either we at least know one of our WR holes is filled.

I have a similar thought with Campbell. We know he's going to be available at 4 so that's one hole filled. Except his arms scare me way more than Tets 40 time.

I'm actually really starting to accept the idea of Tet. He might not be the prospects that Nabors or Harrison were but I also think he has a very low bust potential.

 

[Patsfan1645]

Agree but unless he's playing 1/2 the snaps a game, Kupp can't go 17 games anymore so his numbers are what they are.

I cant say whether he can play a full 18 games or whether he needs a snap count but he had that high ankle sprain last year and those injuries always seem to linger. Here is his snap count and it appears when health he is in for at least 80%.

 

[Hyped]

It does kind of speak about the quality of the draft, though, where if no QB is taken in the top 3, then who is the player that would go 3rd after Carter and Hunter? I’m hoping Robinson signs that incentive laden deal with us, obviously just so we have someone and we know the front office would be reasonably comfortable with it, but also so we’re not boxed into a corner in drafting a LT at 4. I’d like to take best player available for our scheme, knowing we need an infusion of young talent in general. By the nature of my question about who’s taken at 3, it implies whoever we’d be taking at 4 would be an overdraft compared to other years, but you can only work with what you have, and BPA would make it the least possible overdraft.

Yup, that useless week 18 win continues to haunt us.

One thing though, if Sanders falls to us…we can trade down. I think some teams like the Raiders would like to move up two spots to prevent the Jaguars from trading their pick to another team.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Yup, that useless week 18 win continues to haunt us.

One thing though, if Sanders falls to us…we can trade down. I think some teams like the Raiders would like to move up two spots to prevent the Jaguars from trading their pick to another team.

I do wonder if in this draft, where there's not a ton of trade-up interest, if the trade-down deal compensation will be less than normal.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

This is not good for us. We need the Tits, Browns, and G-Men to have an empty QB room on draft night...

I honestly don’t see it. He’s going to be a Steeler or he will take a bargain deal to head to Minnesota.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Yup, that useless week 18 win continues to haunt us.

One thing though, if Sanders falls to us…we can trade down. I think some teams like the Raiders would like to move up two spots to prevent the Jaguars from trading their pick to another team.

Raiders just traded a 3rd for Geno Smith. I’d be surprised if they’d be moving up to take a QB now.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

But we can count on either Hunter or McMillan being available. With our needs still plenty I'm starting to think that by going with either we at least know one of our WR holes is filled.

I have a similar thought with Campbell. We know he's going to be available at 4 so that's one hole filled. Except his arms scare me way more than Tets 40 time.

I'm actually really starting to accept the idea of Tet. He might not be the prospects that Nabors or Harrison were but I also think he has a very low bust potential.

With Tet, there's also a lot of area between total boom and total bust. Like, let's say he comes in here and puts up annual state lines like 2012 Brandon Llloyd or 2014 Brandon LaFell. That's not going to excite anyone, but that's a good solid X receiver who will check the box.

I'm not sure McDaniels' offense is even really built for the X receiver to be the high volume, eye-popping statistical performer. I think his offense is more about that guy filling a role and opening up space for the Z receivers, the slots, the TEs, the RBs to catch a lot of passes on routes that get them open by using that space. Randy Moss is the only X he ever really features because duh that's Randy Moss. Even in LV with Adams and DEN back in the day with B-Marsh I think he's always put his high volume guy at Z or the slot.

I'm not advocating for them to take someone like that #4 of course, just saying there's room for Tet to be a "bad pick" at #4 but also a very good piece for us. Same way Campbell would be a "bad pick" at #4 if he flops at LT and ends up as a LG but if he's a good LG then that's not a disaster by any stretch.

 

[Patsfan1645]

He's on a 1K yard pace because they force feed him a high volume of underneath, low impact targets. It's not really that impressive.

I acknowledged that he'd be our best player and a solid add to the team, but many are seeing the name and assuming he's way better than he is at this stage is all I'm saying. He's a #3 on a good WR depth chart right now, but in good scheme/overall offense around him then I guess yeah, he can be a #2.

I think he is better than you think but everyone has their own opinion. Your right he probably is a solid #3 on a good WR depth chart which the Pats clearly dont have. I think we could all agree if Chase, Jefferson or St. Brown was available we would not be even talking about Kupp but the Pats can only work with whats out there. Take a guy like Kupp and try to find your stud in the draft, that's the direction I would like to see them go in.