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Right, and nobody knows that cam is going to demand 4 years 82 mill
What would you do after Dan ****ing Moore signed for 4 years and $82M? What would you do?
 
Given that Doug Marrone was Cam Robinson’s head coach for his first four years in the NFL, he likely has good insight into him as a player and person. If he feels he can get more out of Robinson, then I would feel good about signing him and vice versa.
 
Are you sure Robinson is going to get a deal like that? Robinson is going to be 30 during the season while Moore is 26. Moore was overpaid because of promise. Robinson's market probably dwindled because he was so bad in his last two games last season. And Jaylon Moore, who is pretty much considered in the range of both Robinson and Dan Moore, only got a two year, $30 million contract. And I would happily pay that for Robinson.
Jaylon Moore at 2 years and $30M is a good stop gap. Agreed.

We signed Moses at 34 to 3 years at $24M. Again that is good.
 
At Jackson's age, less years is probably better. After this deal he'll be hitting free agency heading into his age 30 season, the same as Robinson is now. A shorter deal puts Jackson in better position to land another lucrative deal next time through free agency/pre free agency. Low years, high AAV is the goal for someone like that to maximize their earning potential.

Robinson on the other hand, should really just be about total guarantee. He's 30 so any long term deal might be his last. His goal should be locking in a high salary as long as he can. 4 years, $60M is probably better for him than 3 years, $50M because even though the 3 year deal is higher AAV, it's probably not smart for him to bet on being able to get $10M going into his age 33 season. Obviously contract totals are made up because of all the cap gymnastics but yo get the point.

Yes but his performance last year didn’t exactly set him up for a big payday. He may be looking for a monster 4 year deal but it doesn’t mean he’s going to get that unless it’s a lower apy. Like i said If someone is actually willing to give him 4 years 80 mill i hope its not us.
 
Yes but his performance last year didn’t exactly set him up for a big payday. He may be looking for a monster 4 year deal but it doesn’t mean he’s going to get that unless it’s a lower apy. Like i said If someone is actually willing to give him 4 years 80 mill i hope its not us.
I doubt he gets 4 years, $80M. At least not in real money, they can dress it up however they want. You can slap a $25M non guaranteed base salary for year 4 on the deal that he'll never see and dress the deal up however you want.
 
Yes but his performance last year didn’t exactly set him up for a big payday. He may be looking for a monster 4 year deal but it doesn’t mean he’s going to get that unless it’s a lower apy. Like i said If someone is actually willing to give him 4 years 80 mill i hope its not us.
Not 4 years at $60 or $70M either.
 
What would you do after Dan ****ing Moore signed for 4 years and $82M? What would you do?

Dan is 4 years younger. Like i said cam can try to get the same contract but maybe thats why hes the only LT in his tier that is still left.
 
Vrabel will not pay stupid money to Robinson. I will eat my words if it happens.
 
Dan is 4 years younger. Like i said cam can try to get the same contract but maybe thats why hes the only LT in his tier that is still left.
Yup, if I was him, I would try for a 4 year deal. If you are him, why not? There are stupid GMs out there.
 
Cam Robinson can hold something down? 20+ pressures and 2 sacks in his last two games. The Vikings and Jags let Robinson go. The Jags let Robinson go. Do you realize how bad a player needs to be for the Jags to give up on them? Let that sink in. THE JAGS LET ROBINSON GO. Need I say more?
I could see Robinson giving off Marshall Newhouse vibes in a couple years but maybe we aren’t there yet.
 
Yup, if I was him, I would try for a 4 year deal. If you are him, why not? There are stupid GMs out there.
Cam Robinson helped Sam Darnold land a hefty Contract: he didn't play like complete $h!t Lowe did.
 
Yup, if I was him, I would try for a 4 year deal. If you are him, why not? There are stupid GMs out there.

There are, i would not try to compete with a 4 year deal unless its structured in a way to get out of it a couple sooner. The plan most likely is to draft LT and the rookie contract wouldn’t even outlast a genuine 4 year deal with Cam
 
So I guess it's pretty obvious where we are. We have strengthened the defense, which is a good thing. We have not substantially strengthened the offense, which was generally regarded as the more urgent need going in. They have not been able to this point to strengthen the offense largely, it seems to me, because the opportunity to do so was not there. Their efforts may have been inhibited to a degree, probably, by a determination to give substantial weight to a prospect's character, by what his impact might likely be in the locker room and on team culture. It's hard to argue with this, given the ruination - both with respect to the quality of the roster and team culture - left by Late Belichick/Mayo. (What the ever-livin' hell was that goddam Mayo fiasco all about?)

So what about the offense? First, I think it is the stuff of sheer fanboy delusion to think that this team can be"competitive" in any full sense of the word following a single year of rebuilding (and this is the first year of yet another rebuild, this time thankfully with a promising qb in place.) The draft should, and I assume will, focus on offense. We may have no choice but to go O-line early and often. On the other hand, a team with so many needs will inevitably have multiple ways to go, by which I mean the set of draftees who will fit one of the team's needs on offense will be broad simply because there are so damned many areas of need. You just have to be guided by what your board tells you. This is, again, the first year in a two or three-year rebuild.

I would hope to see a young, promising offensive roster, rather than a lousy roster with a couple of aging "guys who used to be be good." There has been a lot of enthusiasm for bringing on a "proven WR," for example. I think that's foolish. By the time this team can make effective use of such a player, that "proven player" (who in the process of "proving himself" has come to be an aging player), that shiny object WR, will be ready for the boneyard. I hope the team does not choose to please the fan boys by acquiring, likely at great expense, such an essentially useless commodity.
 
I wonder what the delay for teams on Robinson is. Both Moores went pretty early yesterday.
 
So I guess it's pretty obvious where we are. We have strengthened to defense, which is a good thing. We have not substantially strengthened the offense, which was generally regarded as the more urgent need going in. They have not been able to this point to strengthen the offense largely, it seems to me, because the opportunity to do so was not there. Their efforts may have been inhibited to a degree, probably, by a determination to give substantial weight to a prospect's character, by what his impact might likely be in the locker room and on team culture. It's hard to argue with this, given the ruination - both with respect to the quallity of the roster and team culture - left by Late Belichick/Mayo. (What the ever-livin' hell was that goddam Mayo fiasco all about?)

So what about the offense? First, I think it is the stuff of sheer fanboy delusion to think that this team can be"competitive in any full sense of the word following one year of rebuilding (and this is the first year of yet another rebuild, this time thankfully with a promising qb in place.) The draft should, and I assume will, focus on offense. We may have no choice but to go O-line early and often. On the other hand, a team with so many needs will inevitably have multiple ways to go, by which I mean the set of draftees who will fit one of the team's needs on offense will be broad simply because there are so damned many areas of need. You just have to be guided by what you board tells you.

I would hope to see a young, promising offensive roster, rather than a lousy roster with a couple of aging "guys who used to be be good." There has been a lot of enthusiasm for bringing on a "proven WR," for example. I think that's foolish. By the time this team can make effective use of such a player, that "proven player" (who in the process of "proving himself" has come to be an aging player), that shiny object WR, will be ready for the boneyard. I hope the team does not choose to please the fan boys by acquiring, likely at great expense, such an essentially useless commodity.
Godwin was the big miss. It was clear they really wanted to bring him in. Godwin just didn’t want to leave Tampa.
 
That Jaylin Moore signing was the one we should have made.
How did we miss him?? I know we were eyeing Players on Defense: but he fills a Desperate need on Offense.
 
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