Offseason player acquisition thread

[captain stone]

You need 2 of those

If Barmore plays, then we need a 0/1-Tech even more.

 

[Real fan 02]

I'm pulling for the dude, but he & Williams play the same position (3-Tech) so that would be both expensive and redundant.

Williams is a down lineman.. Barmore stands up.. and is a 1&2 Gap DL..

 

[Patsgofor4]

Please be Godwin and Williams, Please be Godwin and Williams, Please be Godwin and Williams

Taking a high likely scenario and tweeting about it, in order to gain some Internet credibility, when that highly likely thing comes to fruition.

 

[signbabybrady]

If Barmore plays, then we need a 0/1-Tech even more.

Is that used much in Vrabel's scheme?

 

[PatsFan2]

Patriots executive shares latest health update on DT Christian Barmore

New England Patriots lead personnel executive Eliot Wolf shared a health update on defensive tackle Christian Barmore.

patriotswire.usatoday.com

I would PUP Barmore this year just to get him back fully healthy...no rush.

 

[captain stone]

Patriots executive shares latest health update on DT Christian Barmore

New England Patriots lead personnel executive Eliot Wolf shared a health update on defensive tackle Christian Barmore.

patriotswire.usatoday.com

That really doesn't tell us anything.

 

[captain stone]

They're moving to a 4-3.

And...?

 

[mgteich]

Do they plan to move him to Free Safety?

Because we need a #1 FS a helluva lot more than we need a Very expensive #2 CB.

And it always this kind of choice for you.

YES, we need a free safety.

And as YOU have said for a couple of years, we badly NEED a #2 CB.
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A true #2 corner would add a lot to the Defense, as would a starting quality FS.

 

[TommyD4207]

Is that used much in Vrabel's scheme?

No. They're not running a 3-4.
You have a fatty on the roster for short yardage/goalline, but most of the time it's 3-techs in the middle.

 

[Love The Drake]

That really doesn't tell us anything.

Yeah Wolf should run for politics.

 

[Real fan 02]

You need 2 of those

 

[TommyD4207]

And...?

What do you mean 'and'?
You don't have a nose tackle in any 4-3.

 

[signbabybrady]

No. They're not running a 3-4.
You have a fatty on the roster for short yardage/goalline, but most of the time it's 3-techs in the middle.

Thanks that's what I figured.

 

[Real fan 02]

That really doesn't tell us anything.

Tells us he's working out! okay, okay, okay cap.. your right he's in Miami

 

[captain stone]

Is that used much in Vrabel's scheme?

Should be used in Every scheme, whether it's one fat-body or two.

 

[captain stone]

Williams is a down lineman.. Barmore stands up.. and is a 1&2 Gap DL..

Have you seen how much Williams weighs?

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is a disappointing crop of free agents, and a disappointing draft class.
Not a great year to have the most cap space and the #4 pick.
But that's what it is.

We all agree we need a premium starting left tackle and right tackle, and a #1 X receiver.
There are not many options.

So either the Patriots overpay for C-level players, or accept that this is a multi-year rebuild.
We're already disappointed that Higgins, Metcalf, Davante Adams, Stanley, Alaric Jackson, and others are off the market.
Campbell might be a guard.
The Patriots are not going to find A-level players to patch their holes.

I think we'll continue to be disappointed based on what's available, and will need to accept another poor year based on an inadequate roster.
I hope they don't dramatically overpay for the limited LT and WR players available, take the best players available in free agency - which is probably DT and DE - and gradually rebuild from a couple drafts.

They are in this position - poor performance, lots of cap space - because of multiple years of poor drafts. They will need multiple years of strong drafts to really turn it around.

If a couple of Ja'Lynn Polk, N'Keal Harry, Tyquan Thornton, Devin Asiasi, Atonio Mafi, Sidy Sow, Cole Strange, etc. had worked out, this would be a very different offense. I hope the offseason strategy is to target the best players available overall, and just suck it up and deal with what's available at OT and WR. Which means pushing some of the cap bubble out another year.

I understand your premise, that it will be tough to address major needs in this free agency, but I disagree with the idea they can’t get much done. In a situation like this, especially given the overall state of their roster, what you do is go to the areas that are strong in talent, like the DL, and sign good players from that pool. They can find good players in free agency, they just might not be able to find really good ones at OT or WR.

 

[Real fan 02]

Should be used in Every scheme, whether it's one fat-body or two.

In a one gap.. wich is Vrabels D.. it's a penetrative,aggressive defense where the bulk of the pressure on the OL is created by the defensive line.

 

[Real fan 02]

Have you seen how much Williams weighs?

6"3 about 290..

 

[captain stone]

No. They're not running a 3-4.
You have a fatty on the roster for short yardage/goalline, but most of the time it's 3-techs in the middle.

Not two of them at the same time; otherwise our run defense will be as porous as last year (17 Straight Runs).