PATRIOTS NEWS Report: Robyn Glaser no longer with the organization (She Officially resigned)

[RobertWeathers]

Very likely and we got stuck with Kraft, Mayo, and Glaser instead of the GOAT. Kraft F'ed it all up. The second he gave Brady the no Franchise clause he undermined Bill and it's been all downhill since.

Will always be a BB guy but i'm not blaming Kraft for the Patriots going 12-22 the two years after they went back to the playoffs in 2021.

Vrabel should just bully them into staying out of the way.

I'm not sure that approach will go over very well with Bob and Jonathan...

 

[signbabybrady]

Oh please, the team was broken by that point. Mac lost all confidence, they threw away Jacoby Meyers who was the only good receiver, the line got even worse. Patricia and Judge were a total disaster. Don't convince Bill further ripping talent away from the team and having no clue what he was doing with those two idiots being a sound decision.

If he wasn't Bill Belichick, he wouldn't have ever been allowed to make them coordinators on offense.

Bill also built one of the ****tiest rosters in the league BEFORE the collaboration was forced on him.

He 100% earned his firing and no team in the NFL wants him because they all saw exactly what we saw and front offices across the league think he's going to come in and try to either have 100% control or maneuver his way into that position and fire everyone

He would have been way better than 3-11 with Maye. He way more than earned the right to get one more chance to find a Franchise QB. But I guess you liked Glaser, Kraft, and Mayo running things.

 

[signbabybrady]

Will always be a BB guy but i'm not blaming Kraft for the Patriots going 12-22 the two years after they went back to the playoffs in 2021.

Even with the Krafts meddling I still put '22 and '23 blame on Bill. Given everything Bill accomplished he deserved a longer leash has always been my point I've never tried to make excuses for his mistakes just can't believe we threw him out so quickly.

I put the decline in relationship between Bill and Bob squarely on the Krafts and I absolutely blame the Kraft's for '24.

 

[lancerman]

He would have been way better than 3-11 with Maye. He way more than earned the right to get one more chance to find a Franchise QB. But I guess you liked Glaser, Kraft, and Mayo running things.

You can't prove that at all. He had a 4 win team the year before and was LUCKY to have that record with the Broncos win. Hell Bill was probably not even going to pick Maye, so it's a ridiculous to even speculate up to that point. He **** on him more than any other QB picked that night.

Bill had chance after chance. Bill's last good draft was a decade ago by that point. He was the one that didn't want to give Brady an extension and pissed him off. I know you are upset about the franchise tag, we also unhappy disgruntled 2019 Brady here that year, you wanted to get in a pissing match with him and start tagging him while he had no desire to be here and have him play some his worst football while the rest of the league's players watched and said "wow those pricks in NE are doing this to Brady after everything he did for them", Gronk ran away as soon as he could and strong armed his way out of his contract here by unretiring when he knew we couldn't handle it on our books.

You are making a strawman that Bill Belichick's firing was wrong because Kraft was a dumbass by anointing Mayo the successor.

Bill Belichick was not winning here anymore. The decisions made after that are independent of the fact that he was awful towards the end, had multiple chances by that point, was put in that position by his own doing, and then the entire NFL passed on him and defacto retired him from the league. And this is a league where if a team even SNIFFS the idea that you could help them win they will run like moths to a flame towards you.

We can acknowledge that he was great at his peak and that he demonstrably lost his ability to team build and by the end his team was an undisciplined mess for a couple of years.

 

[Bill Lee]

Judge and Patricia ran a better offense than the last 2 coordinators. Not only should they not have fired BB they never should forced Collaboration on him either.

If BB didn't want collaboration he could have said no and waited for Bob to fire him.

Pretty sure he realized he had nowhere else to go, and it turns out, he didn't.

 

[Steve102]

Will always be a BB guy but i'm not blaming Kraft for the Patriots going 12-22 the two years after they went back to the playoffs in 2021.


I'm not sure that approach will go over very well with Bob and Jonathan...

You could write a great book on the failure of Bill Belichick and how he changed post Mangini and post Hernandez.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Even with the Krafts meddling I still put '22 and '23 blame on Bill. Given everything Bill accomplished he deserved a longer leash has always been my point I've never tried to make excuses for his mistakes just can't believe we threw him out so quickly.

I put the decline in relationship between Bill and Bob squarely on the Krafts and I absolutely blame the Kraft's for '24.

Now that is the part that I do wonder....the relationship dynamic. What happened.

The narrative is Bill became more distant towards the Krafts which implies it was Bill that changed. He treated Bob like **** and that pissed Jonathan off to no end. I don't think that was the case. I think Bill stayed the same (good or bad..depending on how you look at it) and it was the Krafts who became less tolerant of BB the person as the losses began to mount.

In terms of Bill being fired....if they went to the playoffs in 2022, even after 2023 he should have kept his job. 2022 was such a disaster and an indicator that Bill was having trouble developing a coaching staff he could develop and trust. Thats not good

 

[Steve102]

.... it was the Krafts who became less tolerant of BB the person as the losses began to mount.

I think they were bitter about Brady leaving and the blame had to go someplace that wasn't in the mirror.

There's so much to unpack on the end. Like I said above... you could write a book.

 

[RobertWeathers]

You could write a great book on the failure of Bill Belichick and how he changed post Mangini and post Hernandez.

How did he change?

 

[signbabybrady]

Now that is the part that I do wonder....the relationship dynamic. What happened.

The narrative is Bill became more distant towards the Krafts which implies it was Bill that changed. He treated Bob like **** and that pissed Jonathan off to no end. I don't think that was the case. I think Bill stayed the same (good or bad..depending on how you look at it) and it was the Krafts who became less tolerant of BB the person as the losses began to mount.

In terms of Bill being fired....if they went to the playoffs in 2022, even after 2023 he should have kept his job. 2022 was such a disaster and an indicator that Bill was having trouble developing a coaching staff he could develop and trust. Thats not good

Agreed they chose him over Brady and then resented him for it. So dumb.

 

[Steve102]

How did he change?

His circle of trust shrank post Mangini, which is why he ended up with fat Matt and Judge instead of him going outside the organization. It was more important to him to have someone carry his message than to have someone qualified to be a great OC.

RE: post Hernandez; look at his drafts after 2013. Low success rate. I know I am making big assumptions, but he had to change his evals on players and got much more conservative, valuing coachability over playmaking, and the cut off was 2013.

 

[RobertWeathers]

His circle of trust shrank post Mangini, which is why he ended up with fat Matt and Judge instead of him going outside the organization. It was more important to him to have someone carry his message than to have someone qualified to be a great OC.

RE: post Hernandez; look at his drafts after 2013. Low success rate. I know I am making big assumptions, but he had to change his evals on players and got much more conservative, valuing coachability over playmaking, and the cut off was 2013.

No question Bill's circle became smaller and that hurt him as a coach but i'm not sure that was related to trust but more related to his network getting smaller because he was in the same org for 20+ years.

re: Hernandez. I dunno. They drafted Easley the following year. He was a mess. I attribute their drafts to picking late, losing picks, and an antiquated scouting system more than being conservative.

 

[raduray]

Per Savage on X

Robyn Glaser was cutting costs behind the scenes for the Patriots.

She was trying to do the “opposite” of what Bill Belichick did inside of Foxboro.

Per: @dougkyed

“Former executive vice president of football business Robyn Glaser is also gone from the Patriots and out of the league. Multiple sources told the Herald that Glaser tried to cut costs around the organization to ensure they were spending more effectively.

A team source believed Glaser tried to make changes within the organization without a full understanding of what processes she was changing. When asked for an example, the source said that Glaser’s approach was to simply do the opposite of what Bill Belichick had done in several areas. Now with Vrabel aboard as head coach, a coach-centric power structure that worked for years under Belichick has returned and simplified matters.”

That example is not particularly edifying.

 

[Steve102]

No question Bill's circle became smaller and that hurt him as a coach but i'm not sure that was related to trust but more related to his network getting smaller because he was in the same org for 20+ years.

I dunno. He's Bill Belichick. He knows people all over the country. I think it was a choice to find guys who will parrot his vision and message over finding fresh minds to move the organization forward.

 

[raduray]

Retweet.

If he has a more modern scoring system and not the Belichickian one, it could be a game changer. Big if tho.

I'd love to see it back tested on the last few years' drafts.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I dunno. He's Bill Belichick. He knows people all over the country. I think it was a choice to find guys who will parrot his vision and message over finding fresh minds to move the organization forward.

I think we are saying the same thing but from different PoVs.

I think Bill became/has become institutionalized with his "way" and how he sees things. He said flat out during TC he only wants to work with people he likes. I think that also means he wants to work with people who will go along with his way and not give him any ****.

One of his biggest screw ups was letting a young, independent thinker like Nick Caley go.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Which, IMO anyway, makes Kraft a good owner. He realized his mistake and corrected it quickly.

It softened the blow, for sure. But he hasn't been a good owner for quite a long stretch now. Things are looking up, though!

 

[Triumph]

Yeah, I have to think she was doing this either at the behest of Kraft or to curry favor with Kraft.

Glaser was working for Kraft under the guise of helping Mayo.

 

[raduray]

Should have never fired Bill.

No succession plan after Brady
No succession plan after McDaniels
Numerous failed WR drafts
Let OL deteriorate
Increasingly worse records over three years.
But yea, should have never fired Bill, LOL

 

[maust]

I think the criticisms are fair, but the characterization of King seemed to take it a step too far. He probably should have realized from his Carrol / Greir days that Mayo / Wolf wasn't a good idea, yet he did admit it was a mistake and made a pretty strong course correction. This is not how Kings do things.

My Fellow Old Dude... King Bob... don't you have grandkids?



It's high praise, an almost reverential term for someone who expects to be beloved as a figurehead and for the most part is