Once again, Ted Wells is proved to be a lying shill for the NFL...

[TomPatriot]

Ted Wells has had a huge impact on the law, the NY bar and the NFL: none of it is good. I have to say I hate the man.

 

[TomPatriot]

Out of this whole crock of ****, what is most disturbing is two of the three judges sitting on the the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals overruled Berman's ruling to vacate the suspension. Their own boss even issued a dissent against their reinstatement of the suspension. Jesus.

Here it is almost 10 years later and I still can't get over that. That happens like...almost never.

Not much solace but the smartest Judge on that panel sided with Brady.

 

[lancerman]

That's one side of the reasoning why the overruled Bermen.

Berman's ruling was the arbitration process lacked process and fairness. That was the opinion he issued.

The problem is Chin and the other judge said the "facts" were compelling if not overwhelming which were foundational to their ruling in favor of the NFL.

Their opinion also cited corporations have the right to discipline employees but the problem is a) what Berman ruled and b) cited the evidence as justifying the suspension.

The should have stuck w Berman's ruling which cited the evidence as "flimsy" which supercedes any discipline justification.

Either way....they won 3 Super Bowls after that whole BS.

If it makes people better the next few picks after our forfeited one in 2016 were kinda mid. The first quality player was like 7 picks later. That player.... Hunter Henry

So we kinda won in the end.

 

[lancerman]

Not much solace but the smartest Judge on that panel sided with Brady.

Whenever people argue deflategate I always remind them that 2 judges sides with Brady and two judges sided with the NFL and the head judge agreed with Brady.

 

[TomPatriot]

That's one side of the reasoning why they overruled Bermen.

Berman's ruling was the arbitration process lacked process and fairness. That was the opinion he issued.

The problem is Chin and the other judge said the "facts" were compelling if not overwhelming which were foundational to their ruling in favor of the NFL.

Their opinion also cited corporations have the right to discipline employees but the problem is a) what Berman ruled and b) cited the evidence as justifying the suspension.

The should have stuck w Berman's ruling which cited the evidence as "flimsy" which supercedes any discipline justification.

Either way....they won 3 Super Bowls after that whole BS.

If any arbitration decision fit the description of arbitrary and capricious, it was this one. It was rigged from beginning to end and Berman and Katzman were “generally aware” that was the case.

 

[1960Pats]

Fun fact: Ted Wells = Jets fan, which pretty much tracks with your last paragraph.

Most of Goodell's squad are either Jets fans or former Jets. That helps explain why they suck.

 

[Vindicate]

While this is true imo, there's also the fact that in a climate where almost every network has been seeing decreased viewership year after year, the NFL is like the only longterm product that consistently is breaking it's own viewership records every season.

More of us older guys that have a few decades under our belt yearn for the good old days, but the flipside is, more people are attracted to the product now. Which I don't get tbh. When I was a kid the whole appeal was that football was the sport where you could lay guys out and hit each other. Now all the star players have a magic bubble around them in the form of refs and rules to save them and people seem to prefer that

It's becoming a bubble-like issue, I feel like. The fact that they introduced private equity means the valuation of these teams are becoming too large and private equity likes to slowly buy its way in and start stripping things from the inside out. I think the game will never get better - and that sounds intense and hyperbolic - but between that and the disgusting explosion of gambling (I am not saying gambling is inherently bad, but the scale it has reached is ****in gross), I can't imagine sports improving.

Welp, that was a bummer of a reply lol.

 

[Brick27]

Defamegate changed my relationship with the NFL forever. It came at a time when I was beginning a very aggressive deployment tempo with the Army, so my viewing time was limited compared to before. All I had time for and wanted to see was the Pats, and I wanted to see them blow the doors off teams as another "**** you" to the league. That feeling of antipathy toward the league never really stopped...

The anger and bitterness was washed away by three Super Bowls, featuring legendary plays like the Butlerception or the Edelcatch, and that kept me watching through years in which I still loved the Pats but hated the NFL. I still kinda hate the NFL and I still watch mostly only the Pats, but lately in the form of an optimist in September who is a sad **** by Thanksgiving.

Hopefully Vrabes and crew can turn this thing around...

**** the 32, **** Goodell, **** Ted Wells, **** ESPN...

Yep. No longer do I watch the casual Monday or Thursday game and the *********** mainstream media around BS optics that don’t align with my life. I watch the Pats game, for better or worse, and that’s my 3 hours each week of the season. The rest of the league can eat piss.