Smoking that pack tonight

[Wozzy]

Not sure the relevance.
One is absolutely not like the other.

Because you’ve completely lost the plot and are driving the conversation off a cliff.

Like worshipping the former Patriots HC who is out of the league partly because he was about as successful as Todd Bowles as a HC after Brady left... that kind of worship?

Bowles was more successful once Tom was no longer the offensive coordinator/coach… he won more games. The same way the Buc’s record tanked when Tom got Arians fired. It’s a team sport.

I don’t worship anyone.

 

[Wozzy]

Nobody is saying it doesn’t.

Wrong, SB1 was attempting to say this above.

 

[Wozzy]

Brady more often than not overcame poor OL play. Not everyone can do that as well.

This is the only thing you’ve said that may have the hint of truth. The game has also changed dramatically from the early 2000’s to now.

Brady had BB to thank for superior teams for two decades… thanks Bill.

 

[Lansdowne]

Wrong, SB1 was attempting to say this above.

Take it up with him then?

 

[sb1]

Because you’ve completely lost the plot and are driving the conversation off a cliff.

Not at all. I'm saying the OL playing poorly doesn't mean the QB played good.

Bowles was more successful once Tom was no longer the offensive coordinator/coach… he won more games. The same way the Buc’s record tanked when Tom got Arians fired. It’s a team sport.

Tom was never the OC of the Bucs at any point, nor did he get Arians fired.

I don’t worship anyone.

Bill drafted Mac Jones, nobody forced him to do otherwise. But "it's the collaboration's fault they forced Bill to do it, Bill had no say". Bill never does anything wrong. Sure sounds like worship to me.

 

[Wozzy]

Take it up with him then?

You specifically said “nobody is saying that.

Somebody did.

 

[Lansdowne]

You specifically said “nobody is saying that.

Somebody did.

Okay one person is saying it. Since we’re being pedantic here, can you not move the goal posts with that “Brady can thank BB for two decades of superior teams” rhetoric? That’s not the discussion at hand. Thank you.

 

[Wozzy]

Not at all. I'm saying the OL playing poorly doesn't mean the QB played good.

Huh? Here comes the cliff bottom.

Tom was never the OC of the Bucs at any point, nor did he get Arians fired.

Defend the wall. That’s why Bowles fired Byron Leftwich the moment Tom retired, he was a sycophant.

And yes, Tom had Arians fired, then magically un-retired… don’t be a blatant ballwasher.

Bill drafted Mac Jones, nobody forced him to do otherwise. But "it's the collaboration's fault". Lol being scared to even remotely hint Bill made a mistake for stuff like that sure sounds like worship.

Bill said personnel was taken away his last four years. Bob Kraft said collaboration started once Wolf was hired back in 2020. Do the math, I know it’s hard, use your fingers.

 

[sb1]

This is the only thing you’ve said that may have the hint of truth. The game has also changed dramatically from the early 2000’s to now.

Brady had BB to thank for superior teams for two decades… thanks Bill.

So BB gets all the credit for superior teams but it's never his fault when he screws up... must be some collaboration's fault or something.

#worship

 

[Wozzy]

So BB gets all the credit for superior teams but it's never his fault when he screws up... must be some collaboration's fault or something.

#worship

Collaboration has been confirmed… unless you’re a hater who ignores evidence and first person statements.

 

[sb1]

Huh? Here comes the cliff bottom.

So you're derailing your own conversation then. Ok

Defend the wall. That’s why Bowles fired Byron Leftwich the moment Tom retired, he was a sycophant.

That has nothing to do with Brady being the OC of the Bucs which he wasn't and that's not why he was fired.

And yes, Tom had Arians fired, then magically un-retired… don’t be a blatant ballwasher.

No evidence whatsoever he got Arians fired, your imagination doesn't count as evidence

Bill said personnel was taken away his last four years.

Fabrication

Bob Kraft said collaboration started once Wolf was hired back in 2020. Do the math, I know it’s hard, use your fingers.

Bill was the GM until a year ago. A collaboration can recommend whatever they want to Bill, but he made the football decisions. Mac Jones was BB's boy. That worked out rather well...especially after BB hired his other boy Patricia to run his offense

 

[sb1]

Collaboration has been confirmed… unless you’re a hater who ignores evidence and first person statements.

You're saying Bill gets all the credit for great teams... but not his fault when things go south.

#BBWorship

 

[Wozzy]

So you're derailing your own conversation then. Ok

You’ve already accomplished that.

That has nothing to do with Brady being the OC of the Bucs which he wasn't and that's not why he was fired.

No evidence whatsoever he got Arians fired, your imagination doesn't count as evidence

Defend the wall.

Fabrication

direct quote.

Bill was the GM until a year ago. A collaboration can recommend whatever they want to Bill, but he made the football decisions. Mac Jones was BB's boy. That worked out rather well...especially after BB hired his other boy Patricia to run his offense

Unfortunately facts still aren’t your friend.

 

[sb1]

You’ve already accomplished that.

Defend the wall.

direct quote.

Unfortunately facts still aren’t your friend.

More #worship

 

[Wozzy]

More #worship

Facts suck for you…

 

[sb1]

Facts suck for you…

That doesn't say anything resembling what you're claiming it says.

 

[Lansdowne]

That doesn't say anything resembling what you're claiming it says.

Yup. The reply in that screencap says it all. If anyone truly thinks BB didn’t have final say in those decisions then I have a bridge to sell them. Also I wonder why Kraft insisted that BB collaborate more with the scouts:

Bill Belichick reportedly ignored scouts in drafting N'Keal Harry

Last week's comments from Patriots owner Robert Kraft, covered extensively here and on PFT Live, included a blunt and candid assessment of the team's recent failures in the draft.

www.nbcsports.com

Two years after the 2019 draft, we know that first-round receiver N’Keal Harry has not been good. Albert Breer of SI.com recently reported that coach Bill Belichick ignored his personnel department in picking Harry over players like Deebo Samuel and A.J. Brown, both of whom were preferred by the team’s scouts. Belichick ignored that input and instead took Harry, based on Harry’s performance during a non-workout visit to the team and Belichick’s relationship with Harry’s college coach, Todd Graham.

Back on topic though, to hell with the Chiefs, still smoking that pack!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/s/9tKc2CacbD

 

[signbabybrady]

Both Belichick and Brady are Heros worthy of worship

 

[Steve102]

Well this thread went to ****.

 

[Wozzy]

That doesn't say anything resembling what you're claiming it says.

The truth is triggering so you need to shield your eyes and pretend. Another thread derailed.