PATRIOTS NEWS Terrell Williams is Vrabel's Defensive Coordinator

[captain stone]

My wife

Take her, please...

- H. Youngman

 

[vicspats]

I mean come on they only lost these guys and were pulling off guys on practice squads all over the NFL and playing them the same week. Should they have really dropped off on that side of the ball?

• DE Aidan Hutchinson (broken leg)
• DT Alim McNeill (knee, torn ACL)
• DT Kyle Peko (pectoral)
• DE Marcus Davenport (triceps)
• DE John Cominsky (knee, torn MCL)
• DT Mekhi Wingo (knee)
• DE Nate Lynn (shoulder)
• LB Alex Anzalone (broken forearm)
• LB Derrick Barnes (knee, torn PCL and MCL)
• LB Malcolm Rodriguez (knee, torn ACL)
• CB Khalil Dorsey (ankle)
• CB Carlton Davis (fractured jaw)
• CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr. (hamstring)

That’s some good drafting ..

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

My wife

This is the way

 

[Grogan14]

No matter who the coordinators are, without major improvements in talent no coach on this team will be succesful

 

[dliverey44]

I imagine Vrabel will be more help at that than Mayo was.

I am guessing that this is part of the reason that he went with McD because he won't have to worry about the offense as much

 

[borisman]

I mean come on they only lost these guys and were pulling off guys on practice squads all over the NFL and playing them the same week. Should they have really dropped off on that side of the ball?

• DE Aidan Hutchinson (broken leg)
• DT Alim McNeill (knee, torn ACL)
• DT Kyle Peko (pectoral)
• DE Marcus Davenport (triceps)
• DE John Cominsky (knee, torn MCL)
• DT Mekhi Wingo (knee)
• DE Nate Lynn (shoulder)
• LB Alex Anzalone (broken forearm)
• LB Derrick Barnes (knee, torn PCL and MCL)
• LB Malcolm Rodriguez (knee, torn ACL)
• CB Khalil Dorsey (ankle)
• CB Carlton Davis (fractured jaw)
• CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr. (hamstring)

It’s sad you have to point this out.

Even the Dothraki women will tell you ….

 

[borisman]

Do we know he’s still on blood thinners?

From what I understand he’ll be on blood thinners for years to come. It may also depend on how big it was and it’s exact location.

 

[borisman]

I bet Kendrick Bourne is already on it lol

So is Judon haha

 

[mgteich]

No matter who the coordinators are, without major improvements in talent no coach on this team will be succesful

and the sky is usually blue

There definitely will be increases in talent this off-season. Does anyone doubt that? The open question is whether tit will be enough to make us a competitive team in 2025.

 

[Joey007]

 

[mgteich]

From what I understand he’ll be on blood thinners for years to come. It may also depend on how big it was and it’s exact location.

If he is on blood thinners for years to come, then he is done with football.

BTW, size is almost irrelevant. My wife had two very large blot clots and they were completely gone within two months.

 

[JohnJH]

If he is on blood thinners for years to come, then he is done with football.

BTW, size is almost irrelevant. My wife had two very large blot clots and they were completely gone within two months.

If someone is on blood thinners (as you know) to treat a temporary condition (like your wife's), that's something that can allow someone to continue to play Football (or any contact sport). But, if Barmore has to be on them for a long term condition (from years to the rest of his life), he's sadly done as an NFL Player. At that point, just living a normal and healthy life is what's important.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Big discrepancy with the Experience factor between these two coaches
Vrabel can help out with play calling while learning
Mayo had no experience in helping out with play calling with Covington

One of the clear upsides with JMD as OC is that Vrabel can let him run with the offense while he spends any 'extra' time that he has helping his first time DC get up to speed with his new responsibilities. This staff is not made up of sexy choices, they are much more experienced and fit together better than last year. Led by an experienced HC who is going to put in the effort necessary to be successful, this team is in much better hands than before.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

No matter who the coordinators are, without major improvements in talent no coach on this team will be succesful

Without more talent the record is not going to change enough to make a difference. Coaches can be successful at their jobs, even if the team does not win many games. At the end of the day a coaches job is to extract maximum performance and develop the players under their responsibility. Even if the players are not up to the mark we should expect valiant efforts on the field with minimal mental errors from a well coached team that gets beaten by superior opponents. That is the baseline. Vrabel will be wearing dual hats with the new personnel guy helping so we should get different results than the last few years.

 

[NormZauchin]

He has a coaching tree?

It's a coaching bush.

 

[signbabybrady]

If someone is on blood thinners (as you know) to treat a temporary condition (like your wife's), that's something that can allow someone to continue to play Football (or any contact sport). But, if Barmore has to be on them for a long term condition (from years to the rest of his life), he's sadly done as an NFL Player. At that point, just living a normal and healthy life is what's important.

It's still very early in the off-season but if his career was over we'd probably have heard or will hear before free agency. Maybe there's some contractual reasons to wait even longer than that. But until I'm told otherwise I'm going to believe there is still a decent chance he'll be back. Or at least looking into some sort of treatment that would allow for it.

 

[JohnJH]

It's still very early in the off-season but if his career was over we'd probably have heard or will hear before free agency. Maybe there's some contractual reasons to wait even longer than that. But until I'm told otherwise I'm going to believe there is still a decent chance he'll be back. Or at least looking into some sort of treatment that would allow for it.

We'll find out eventually.

 

[Aussie Patriot]

When asked about the playing style he wants from his players, Williams used one word.

“Violent,” Williams told Lions reporters. “That’s it. That’s it. I’m not gonna give you a dissertation about, ‘Hey, we have to do this ...’ You gotta play violent, and you gotta play with effort. The violent element of it, that’s a big part of playing that position. You want guys that accept that. You have to accept that’s just what that position is. It’s a violent, high-collision position, and you’ve gotta play with effort, and if you can’t do that, you’re gonna have a hard time playing. I haven’t seen very many high-level starters that aren’t violent players. That just doesn’t work, it doesn’t go hand-in-hand.

“I’ve coached some of the most violent on-the-field players and have (coached Jeffery) Simmons, had (Ndamukong) Suh in Miami, had Richard Seymour in Oakland, and even some of the undersized (players), like Cam Wake in Miami, who was 260, 250 pounds, he was one of the most violent football players — people look at him as a pass rusher but he rushed violently when you watch him, and that’s just what it is. I don’t know any other way to explain it other than we’re looking for violent players. That’s just what it has to be.”

 

[TomPatriot]

When asked about the playing style he wants from his players, Williams used one word.

“Violent,” Williams told Lions reporters. “That’s it. That’s it. I’m not gonna give you a dissertation about, ‘Hey, we have to do this ...’ You gotta play violent, and you gotta play with effort. The violent element of it, that’s a big part of playing that position. You want guys that accept that. You have to accept that’s just what that position is. It’s a violent, high-collision position, and you’ve gotta play with effort, and if you can’t do that, you’re gonna have a hard time playing. I haven’t seen very many high-level starters that aren’t violent players. That just doesn’t work, it doesn’t go hand-in-hand.

“I’ve coached some of the most violent on-the-field players and have (coached Jeffery) Simmons, had (Ndamukong) Suh in Miami, had Richard Seymour in Oakland, and even some of the undersized (players), like Cam Wake in Miami, who was 260, 250 pounds, he was one of the most violent football players — people look at him as a pass rusher but he rushed violently when you watch him, and that’s just what it is. I don’t know any other way to explain it other than we’re looking for violent players. That’s just what it has to be.”

Between Vrabel and this guy, it’s the antithesis of the way the league is going. Not exactly McVay and McDaniel. Interesting.

 

[bakes781]

And our Left Tackle of the Future is...who, again?

Probably this guy in a trade down scenario


If not my target in the 2nd would be this guy