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Yes I don't think anyone's going to argue that Drake Maye is a massive upgrade to Tannenhill.

But where are they going to get a top five of all-time running back in his prime?
Where did Baltimore and the eagles get there's? I'm more worried about building the line. Its gonna take multiple good drafts to get this talent level up
 
correct. Last year the job was "contractual ".. who do you like for DC??
Not sure I guess Shane Bowen was his last DC but maybe there is someone else out there with interesting ties? RAC lol.
 
Given the fact that Tom Quinn who is right now Springer’s assistant was on Vrabel staff in Tennessee in 2023, I’ll say there is a chance Springer can stay
Springer won me over hard with his interview the other day. Night and day, crazy contrast with all the other clowns on staff and upstairs.
 
Where did Baltimore and the eagles get there's? I'm more worried about building the line. Its gonna take multiple good drafts to get this talent level up

That's why you should be concerned about Wolf still having a job.
 
The good thing about Vrabel is - even if it takes a year to figure out the best coord's and asst. coaches... Vrabel can steer the ship and knows enough 3-phase football to develop consistency. Unlike Mayo, who didn't really know Offense or ST at all. And, ultimately failed in his own unit of (supposed) expertise.

I'd be fine starting with JMD (OC), AVP (QB coach + pass game coord.), Welker (WR coach) - Need a new OL & RB coach.
* I think Josh would really know how to maximize Gibson, Pop, Bell in game plans.
And AVP could keep developing Maye. Welker could bring up Polk, Boutte, and '24 draft pick.
 
I’m sure he does. I wonder who he’s talking about. Tedy was just a nudge from “shut up, the adults are talking.”
I don't think Tedy would bash the Krafts so i'm ruling them out.

My gut tells me it was BB that vented to Bru.

The person I come back to is.....Robyn Glaser. She knows nothing about football per se but I think she was the one who was chiseling away at Bob to a) lock in Mayo b) change the FO dynamic c) move on from Bill.
 
Vrabes is coming to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and he's all out of bubblegum.
 
Not sure I guess Shane Bowen was his last DC but maybe there is someone else out there with interesting ties? RAC lol.
Gladly take RAC. What about Steve wilks? Or possibly even roman phifer being elevated to DC?
 
My comparison was in regards to Vrabel and his success as a coach.

There is no doubt Maye will surpass the best years Tannenhill ever had.

I don't see that as question at all personally.
I like your confidence. People likely thought (still think !?) Herbert would surpass Tanehill as well. A billion costly playoff INTs later (in a mere two games / losses), one can question that hope…

I like Maye. I pray Vrabel has the right OC primed for improving our scoring.
 
I don't think Tedy would bash the Krafts so i'm ruling them out.

My gut tells me it was BB that vented to Bru.

The person I come back to is.....Robyn Glaser. She knows nothing about football per se but I think she was the one who was chiseling away at Bob to a) lock in Mayo b) change the FO dynamic c) move on from Bill.
I think it’s one of Glaser, wolf or groh.

Bill certainly dug his own grave, but he definitely had an enemy in the offices. I always assumed it was Jonathan who was the one who worked that aspect, but you could be right.
 
Gladly take RAC. What about Steve wilks? Or possibly even roman phifer being elevated to DC?
I don’t want RAC. Gimme someone much younger.
 
Upstater,?you keep wanting to bang on this drum. I gave you my answer, I’m not going to change it because you don’t like it. I answered it at length, accept that.
You talked about Maye, who was a no brainer. Anyone wouldve picked Maye there.

He failed in later rounds
 
I like your confidence. People likely thought (still think !?) Herbert would surpass Tanehill as well. A billion costly playoff INTs later (in a mere two games / losses), one can question that hope…

I like Maye. I pray Vrabel has the right OC primed for improving our scoring.

Herbert had a great season but he reverted back into a turnover machine yesterday.

I still think Maye has a top 5 trajectory if everything breaks his way.

Vrabel will bring much needed stability and accountability to the franchise and that will definitely help a player like Maye.
 
I don't think Tedy would bash the Krafts so i'm ruling them out.

My gut tells me it was BB that vented to Bru.

The person I come back to is.....Robyn Glaser. She knows nothing about football per se but I think she was the one who was chiseling away at Bob to a) lock in Mayo b) change the FO dynamic c) move on from Bill.
I know that as of last season her dealings were handling contracts. She definitely had some sort of Influence in the FO.. however that was last season.. Highsmith seems to have been given power over them all.. Vrabel wouldn't have agreed to a contract without some sort of clarity on FO roles.. Vrabel is a smart and calculated guy.
 
I don't think Tedy would bash the Krafts so i'm ruling them out.

My gut tells me it was BB that vented to Bru.

The person I come back to is.....Robyn Glaser. She knows nothing about football per se but I think she was the one who was chiseling away at Bob to a) lock in Mayo b) change the FO dynamic c) move on from Bill.
Doubt it. I imagine it is the actual front office.

I am guessing they have guys in high positions in the front office who aren't as sharp as they think they are. Bill was able to keep them quiet by having final say, but they *****ed and moaned when Bill had some bad drafts and Bill got pushed into being more "collaborative", which didn't fix anything. Bill got canned, Wolf is his replacement, but Wolf did not quiet anyone down because Kraft was still all about "collaboration" and "everyone having a say".

Vrabel will come in and get the dumbasses to go sit in the corner and be quiet.
 
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