The Official Vrabel vs Ben Johnson Discussion Thread

[Sect140]

I think its in the 12 range each a game but been a little more for Gibbs lately due to Montgomery injury.

Wow that’s it, I thought it would’ve been more.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

I don't think there can be a true two way player in the NFL. Too much wear and tear. To me, the question is Hunter either the best WR or the best CB on the board? An if its CB or neither, then pass. We need OL and WR more than another CB.

he's the best at both but i want him primarily at wr with some cb. probably depends on personal team interviews. i also like carter at 4.

 

[Bobby T]

i like both esp the versatility of hunter. we need bot wr

I was determined that we need to draft an OT or a WR, but at this point I’m not sold on any of those players. Graham and Carter sound like sure things. I want one of those two guys. I’m really looking forward to the combine/draft process. Free agency too.

Me too but Banks seems like a reach at 4. He has not gotten Joe Alt comparisons. Maybe a trade down but that’s risky. McMillan may be great. I haven’t seen him but when I read he doesn’t separate well and excels at contested catches my Patriots PTSD kicks in. I just want a sure impact player. I agree with Graham or Carter.

 

[dliverey44]

That is EXACTLY what I've been saying. Johnson isn't likely to go anywhere where the QB isn't in place and the roster. The Bears have a ready made roster and a young QB with upside.

I also think the Jags are in the running

 

[Big Bucks]

Wow that’s it, I thought it would’ve been more.

Yeah Gibbs is 250 carries. 14 avg.. over the season

I will say though.. I've looked into the Titans running game percentage each season and its about 49% over Vrabel's time..

Detroit has moved to 47% this year... having previously been around 44%.. Looking at the home and away difference is telling.. Home 44% Away 52% for past season

Saying that I guess it is how the RBs are utilised that may be a difference.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Me too but Banks seems like a reach at 4. He has not gotten Joe Alt comparisons. Maybe a trade down but that’s risky. McMillan may be great. I haven’t seen him but when I read he doesn’t separate well and excels at contested catches my Patriots PTSD kicks in. I just want a sure impact player. I agree with Graham or Carter.

He’s absolutely a reach at 4. R2 is the appropriate area to grab a tackle prospect this year.

 

[dliverey44]

We disagree, only a few coordinators run it anymore. Only 3 teams run it. NYG, Colts, Lions.

Why do you keep saying that you do not want EP system, but you want Johnson?

 

[Water Boy]

Head coach – Mike Vrabel

Offensive coaches

Offensive coordinator – Josh McDaniels
Quarterbacks – Josh McDaniels
Running backs – Tony Dews
Wide receivers – Wes Welker
Tight ends – Bob Bicknell
Offensive line – Scott Peters

Defensive coaches

Defensive coordinator – Shane Bowen
Defensive line – Jerry Montgomery
Linebackers – Dont'a Hightower
Cornerbacks – Mike Pellegrino
Safeties – Brian Belichick

Special teams coaches

Special teams coordinator – Jeremy Springer
Kick & punt returners – Troy Brown

Strength and conditioning – Moses Cabrera

Do we know if Donta Hightower can coach?

 

[lancerman]

He’s absolutely a reach at 4. R2 is the appropriate area to grab a tackle prospect this year.

There's tackle worth grabbing as high as we are picking. It's not even worth a trade down.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

I’m not sure they should bring back McDaniels but I guess it’s okay. Wonder who Vrabel is going to get as the DC

 

[Big Bucks]

I say use 4th overall in a trade and utilise that 130m cap for a LT

 

[RobertWeathers]

I’m not sure they should bring back McDaniels but I guess it’s okay. Wonder who Vrabel is going to get as the DC

I have nothing vs Josh as an OC.

Maye is already down the path w WC.

Let the boy continue to master the offense

 

[RobertWeathers]

Do we know if Donta Hightower can coach?

Haven't heard a peep about him or from him all year

 

[Zuma]

Do we know if Donta Hightower can coach?

Vrabel will have to make the determination if he's an option.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Haven't heard a peep about him or from him all year

How have the linebackers been playing this year?

 

[Hammer of Thor]

The day they move into a dome is the day I give up my tickets. LOL!

Retractable dome would be nice, if they did it the opposite of how it’s usually done.
- close the roof for any hot and muggy September day games
- keep roof open during snow and rain games

 

[Zuma]

How have the linebackers been playing this year?

Jennings had a decent year. Bentley's been injured. Talent level is not high....to say the least.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Jennings had a decent year. Bentley's been injured.

Yeah, I mean it’s all about development. If the backup linebackers played well, it suggests that he did a good job. If they didn’t, it’s worth questioning how he did.

 

[RobertWeathers]

How have the linebackers been playing this year?

Based on what we are all thinking he should go back to retirement.

With that said his DC and HC and Bentley's injury didn't do him any favors.

If Vrabes is running the BB D then they should learn if the issue is High or his mgt

 

[Zuma]

Yeah, I mean it’s all about development. If the backup linebackers played well, it suggests that he did a good job. If they didn’t, it’s worth questioning how he did.

Talent level is an issue...some have hit their ceilings.