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Furthermore. You wanna give him all the credit for the roster and coaching when it went well but the fact that you are objectively arguing without acknowledging my point is why you're ass.

He gets credit for winning when Brady was here.

He gets credit for losing when Brady wasn't.

See how that works?

Brady 7

Bill 6.

Forever. Always.
I give him credit for everything he did, good, bad or ugly. That’s how it works.

Overall, he is the greatest ever.
 
What's my screen name I made no such choice.

I worship at the alter of both thank you very much.

You're choosing him in THIS back and forth.

Anyone who argues Bill didn't reach the end of his career isn't being honest with them self. He was done. Over.
 
Sigh.

Comprehension is a big problem with you but im always up for the challenge.

You will be a better fan by the end of the year. I'll make sure of it.
Where is my million? I showed you the post where you compared them. You owe me a million dollars, Mo
 
Furthermore. You wanna give him all the credit for the roster and coaching when it went well but the fact that you are objectively arguing without acknowledging my point is why you're ass.

He gets credit for winning when Brady was here.

He gets credit for losing when Brady wasn't.

See how that works?

Brady 7

Bill 6.

Forever. Always.
Bill's got 8
 
I give him credit for everything he did, good, bad or ugly. That’s how it works.

Overall, he is the greatest ever.

So you agree. Most loses in NFL history and worst roster in the NFL.

Flamed out of the league.

I told you I would get to a better place as a fan. You're finally dealing with facts.
 
Why are you focused on a small portion of his resume?

You weird
I’m talking about his whole resume, everything he dud. Every positive, every negative and it adds up to the greatest ever.
 
Where is my million? I showed you the post where you compared them. You owe me a million dollars, Mo

I never compared the two in the way that I was accused of.

Saying they both were fired isn't a comparison.

Anyway. Don't you have a wakeup call for the short bus in a couple hours?
 
So you agree. Most loses in NFL history and worst roster in the NFL.

Flamed out of the league.

I told you I would get to a better place as a fan. You're finally dealing with facts.
Greatest ever.
 
I’m talking about his whole resume, everything he dud. Every positive, every negative and it adds up to the greatest ever.

No. Tom is the greatest ever.
 
About which part? The one where Bill Belichick literally flamed out of the league without Tom Brady?

Is that something people still debate? It happened. You lived it. No need to rehash it.
A great head coach recognizes talent, and has the guts to act decisively. That’s part of the job.

By your username, I’m guessing you were 15 in 2001. You don’t understand just how much Belichick put himself out on the line, compared with what the landscape was at the time —

- starting a 6th round pick over a 1st rounder #1 overall who just signed the highest contract in NFL history and was locally beloved,
- Belichick had literally done that in his prior gig, was proven right, but was roasted for it and was cited as a major reason for his being ****canned,
- as we learned this year, Kraft himself said that if you start Brady over Bledsoe and don’t make the playoffs, I’m ****canning you.

What head coach does what Belichick does back then? It’s easy to say anyone would with 20/20 hindsight. But you need to understand just how conservative the NFL was at the time. For example, Belichick (and Parcells too) was considered very aggressive at 4th down attempts; when Belichick was canned he was among the most conservative, and it’s because the league shifted, not him. Other starting big name QBs have been benched in the last 25 years — but *because* Belichick set the standard for it being acceptable. It never happened beforehand.

Belichick did what no one else of the time would have done. For that reason alone, he is among the greatest head coaches of all time.
 
Why are you focused on a small portion of his resume?

You weird
He's not focused on the small portion he's just not ignoring the most important part.

But why are you focused on a small portion of his resume?

You weird.
 
No. Tom is the greatest ever.
Brady isn’t a coach.
He’s the greatest player ever. My favorite player of all time.
No need to hate anyone to acknowledge greatness and give credit to those who earned it.
 
He made Brady
Only NE fans can get angry about having the GOAT coach and GOAT QB collaborate for an amazing run of success. Both parties have acknowledged the contributions of the other in their personal success. All good things come to an end, I am looking forward to the rebuild with a franchise QB (or two, LOL), new coach and a lot of ability to add talent. Whoever is running FA and the draft needs to hit on the opportunities.
 
Bill's got 8

Interesting

Ok then. Steve magnolia is the best defensive coordinator of all time and by extension the greatest defensive mind the game has ever seen.

Didn't think you'd take that position but I respect the balls.
 
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