New HC Candidate

[Real fan 02]

I like the thinking but he has to win first. They looked really good last night so for now I'll go with you and put him on the interesting list. When he loses he gets removed (possibly removed from Ohio).

Give me someone on the pro levels.. Shanahan, Mcvay tree. We desperately need a modern innovative mind. People keep forgetting Joe brady in Buffalo is an under the radar coaching candidate as well.

 

[PatsFan2]

Give me someone on the pro levels.. Shanahan, Mcvay tree. We desperately need a modern innovative mind. People keep forgetting Joe brady in Buffalo is an under the radar coaching candidate as well.

Proven Coordinator love the name.

 

[Boston Boxer]

Ryan Day. About to win a national championship.
For those on the WR train, he has produced
Harrison
JSN
Olave
Wilson
J Smith who will be better than all of them
McLaurin
Egbuka who will probably be a #1

Started CJ Stroud as a true freshman and coach him to be ready for maybe the best rookie season ever for a QB.

He can bring Brian Stablein as WR coach. Chip Kelly as OC for a couple years until Stablein grows into it.

i don't think we can afford to hire someone and hopes his college success translates to the pros. We need an actual experienced head coach and staff. I'm not saying he wouldn't work out and be the best but I'm not willing to roll the dice like Kraft did with Mayo

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

I think it’s 95% Mayo keeps his job. I think Krafts biggest worry is he’ll look bad if he fires a black head coach after one season

 

[Real fan 02]

Proven Coordinator love the name.

Yes he's a forgotten man.. he has a innovation offensive vision and he has not only Allen but cook playing at an all pro level.

 

[Ring 6]

Both are UNH alums.

Kelly was the coach, Day was his QB

 

[Ring 6]

i don't think we can afford to hire someone and hopes his college success translates to the pros. We need an actual experienced head coach and staff. I'm not saying he wouldn't work out and be the best but I'm not willing to roll the dice like Kraft did with Mayo

Where are you going to find a successful NFL HC that’s available?
Day is not the same as Mayo, Day has coordinator and HC experience, he wouldn’t be hired because he got people talking in an airport lounge during a layover.

 

[NFL Mystique]

He would be fun just for the puns alone.

I agree about bringing in an experienced HC. Ron Rivera, Gary Kubiak, and Doug Pederson are names to look out for.

 

[Ring 6]

Give me someone on the pro levels.. Shanahan, Mcvay tree. We desperately need a modern innovative mind. People keep forgetting Joe brady in Buffalo is an under the radar coaching candidate as well.

I think this is why so many coaches fail.
Just like in any business, innovators succeed and the people that come behind them and copy what they did usually fail.
The most common concept in NFL coaching searches is find the guy who worked under someone who was innovative and successful. And what you get is a watered down copy cat that doesn’t really understand how to build the system.

Look at our defense. Mayo and Covington worked only under belichick. But they simply don’t understand the system at the level needed to run it alone.
Joe Brady was handed a talented offense, and has done a good job calling plays within someone else’s system. He was terrible in Carolina and now has less than 2 years as OC in Buffalo.
Had he developed players, brought in a new system and turned bad to good, he would be intriguing but he really hasn’t.

 

[Ring 6]

He would be fun just for the puns alone.

I agree about bringing in an experienced HC. Ron Rivera, Gary Kubiak, and Doug Pederson are names to look out for.

Why?

 

[PWRxWLF]

First things first. I don’t believe Mayo is going anywhere but I’ll play along. Bring Day in for an interview. What’s it hurt? It’s not like you have to hire the guy or anything. Hell, he just might blow you away.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Rivera generally had good teams. Went to a SB. Kubiak was very good in Houston. Pederson made Nick Foles look great.

 

[signbabybrady]

Where are you going to find a successful NFL HC that’s available?
Day is not the same as Mayo, Day has coordinator and HC experience, he wouldn’t be hired because he got people talking in an airport lounge during a layover.

I checked his resume he even has 2 years in the NFL as a QB coach. From an experience perspective I'd say he has enough for anyone that hasn't already been a NFL HC. Being a HC in college for example has to be considered more experience than Ben Johnson.

 

[Steve102]

Kelly was the coach, Day was his QB

Kelly was at UNH from 81-84. From UNH's site:

Kelly, who played quarterback and defensive back for legendary head coach Bill Bowes at UNH from 1981-84, graduated from UNH with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Physical Education in 1990 before starting his college coaching career as an assistant at Columbia University for two seasons (1990-91).

 

[festy1986]

Yeah this guy is constantly underperformed and lost at Michigan what? 3 straight years, 4?

Also he's going to be fired if he doesn't win the national championship according to the media so. No thanks.

 

[signbabybrady]

I think this is why so many coaches fail.
Just like in any business, innovators succeed and the people that come behind them and copy what they did usually fail.
The most common concept in NFL coaching searches is find the guy who worked under someone who was innovative and successful. And what you get is a watered down copy cat that doesn’t really understand how to build the system.

Look at our defense. Mayo and Covington worked only under belichick. But they simply don’t understand the system at the level needed to run it alone.
Joe Brady was handed a talented offense, and has done a good job calling plays within someone else’s system. He was terrible in Carolina and now has less than 2 years as OC in Buffalo.
Had he developed players, brought in a new system and turned bad to good, he would be intriguing but he really hasn’t.

I like the way you are thinking this through who are some other candidates that you like?

 

[Ring 6]

Kelly was at UNH from 81-84. From UNH's site:

He also coached there from 1994 - 2006

Day was QB from 98-01 when Kelly was OC

 

[Ring 6]

Rivera generally had good teams. Went to a SB. Kubiak was very good in Houston. Pederson made Nick Foles look great.

So we disagree on Rivera. I don’t think a guy who coached 13 years and had 3 winnings seasons, including none of the last 6 is what we need.

Not thinking kubiak is the guy either. He quit coaching because of health concerns in 2016 came back as an assistant in 2019 and 2020 and hadn’t coached since that I can tell. He is currently a coaching advisor for the Wroclaw Panthers in Poland.

Pederson wouldn’t be my guy either. Not interested in turning the franchise over to a guy who is getting fired for going 4-12 and seems to have ruined Trevor Lawrence. He has 1 season in 8 win more than 9 wins and an overall losing record.

 

[Hyped]

If we are gonna go the OSU route…Vrabel would be my choice.

 

[Ring 6]

I like the way you are thinking this through who are some other candidates that you like?

It’s tough because you have to separate the guy from the resume.
I don’t have the insight to know who is following and who is innovating.
I like Johnson because we know he built that offense not Campbell.
Wes Phillips would be in my list. From a football family. Coached in a lot of good offensive systems, doing well in Minnesota. 45 years old is about the right age I think.
Wouldn’t mind trying to lure Kirby smart here.

But again the most important part is the mentality, vision and culture they want to embrace