If patriots lose out, Travis Hunter could be theirs

[Grogan14]

Bils are not going to play all their starters for the second game

Pats probably win that one.
I am assuming they will be picking lower than 3

 

[VJCPatriot]

We're still in 3rd place according to Tankathon!

Patriots just need to suck for 3 more games.

 

[signbabybrady]

Bils are not going to play all their starters for the second game

Pats probably win that one.
I am assuming they will be picking lower than 3

If Mahomes is dinged up the one seed could still be in play

 

[VJCPatriot]

Bils are not going to play all their starters for the second game

Pats probably win that one.
I am assuming they will be picking lower than 3

That's a lot of presumptions:
A. That the Patriots can beat the Bills 2nd string.
B. That the Bills won't be playing for best playoff seeding in week 17. They are neck and neck with Steelers for #2 seed right now.

Speaking of Steelers, reminder, their leading receiver, George Pickens could have been ours instead of Thornton whom we have already cut loose. The Patriots WR curse continues.

 

[patman12]

After this loss to AZ, I think the Pats need to trade out of #3 to get the best OT and sign Tee Higgins. I just don’t see drafting a WR at #3 who may or may not “get it” in year 1,

 

[VJCPatriot]

If Hunter has shutdown CB talent you take him. Imagine having 2 shutdown CBs and what impact that would have on the defense.

The main attraction with Hunter is he can be a shutdown CB AND a WR1. In the old days 2-way players existed.

Travis Hunter can fill either need.

 

[VJCPatriot]

After this loss to AZ, I think the Pats need to trade out of #3 to get the best OT and sign Tee Higgins. I just don’t see drafting a WR at #3 who may or may not “get it” in year 1,

Hunter projects to be an instant impact player.



Trading down also has drawbacks. We did it last year and missed out on Ladd McConkey and got back two WRs whose production combined don't even touch his.

Ladd McConkey 12 games 58 catches, 815 yards, 4TDs
Ja'Lynn Polk 12 games 87 yards 2 TDs
Javon Baker 8 games, 1 start, 0 everything.

 

[Kdo5]

Don’t overthink it. If Travis Hunter is there for us, take him.

We have so many holes that you might as well get a potential superstar whether plays more offense or defense.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Bils are not going to play all their starters for the second game

Pats probably win that one.
I am assuming they will be picking lower than 3

Based on what we saw today, I don't think we can even beat their backups.

 

[KCSVEN]

Bils are not going to play all their starters for the second game

Pats probably win that one.
I am assuming they will be picking lower than 3

If Chiefs win at least 1 of next 2 and Bills win next 2 the Bills have to play to win last game

Pats and Jets are wins for Bills
Chiefs have Texans and Steelers, just need to win 1

 

[scott99]

We're still in 3rd place according to Tankathon!

Patriots just need to suck for 3 more games.

I don’t think it’s about sucking for the next 3 games, that’s a given, it’s not like their 3 opponents will lie down. 2 against Buffalo and 1 against a desperate Chargers team. I see 3 blowouts coming.

This team will finish 3-14, and will have one of the top 3 picks. If it finishes the way it is now, Giants and Raiders will pick QBs 1 & 2. Hunter will be available for the Pats. Then it’ll be a question if they’re smart enough to take him. They were smart enough to take Maye, hopefully they do it again with Hunter.

 

[jdlboot14]

NO HUNTER. Just a waste of a pick.
Trade down ~5-10 picks for OL & WR
Or, more leaning toward sticking and get RB Jeanty.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

with hunter you get two studs for the price of one and at two positions of need.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

We're still in 3rd place according to Tankathon!

Patriots just need to suck for 3 more games.

If the Top 7 teams did not win another game. Would we drop below some of them because of the SOS since we would be playing Buffalo twice and the Chargers who have good records

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

with hunter you get two studs for the price of one and at two positions of need.

I like the kid
I have to dig deeper to see if he is the best CB or WR in the draft
He will not be able to play both sides of the ball
Not stamina. He will not be able to go to meetings or study both sides of the ball
This is the NFL not College anymore
Pretty intricate stuff

 

[lancerman]

with hunter you get two studs for the price of one and at two positions of need.

No you don't. Nobody plays both ways in the NFL. You either are going to get a pure WR or you are getting a CB who can play in a few gadget plays on offense if that (and frankly I think even if they do that, in a few years they would just transition out).

I also don't think CB is high on the positions of need list.

We need an OT (probably 2) a C, at least one OG who isn't a paper towel, a WR1, probably a WR 2, at least one really solid LB who won't make the center of the field a total weakness, and a pass rusher first before CB. In fact, you could argue we desperately need a competent kicker as well who isn't going to leave points on the field every game.

Hell, the Pats are actually a worse rushing defense than a pass defense, we need more guys upfront who don't get pushed around.

If we get Hunter, the only real move is to get him to play WR, and I don't think he's even the best WR in the draft. He's probably better served on a team that desperately needs secondary help and could benefit from a few trick plays on offense. That's where the most value will be gotten for him.

In the NFL you can either commit to being a CB and learning how to shut down top flight WR's or you can commit to being a WR and running routes and catching the ball to break coverage in high octane offenses full of creative play design. You can not do both. And even if Hunter somehow could go in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber during practice so he had time to learn both, he'd get burned out late in every single game playing both ways against NFL talent.

 

[varjao]

No you don't. Nobody plays both ways in the NFL. You either are going to get a pure WR or you are getting a CB who can play in a few gadget plays on offense if that (and frankly I think even if they do that, in a few years they would just transition out).

I also don't think CB is high on the positions of need list.

We need an OT (probably 2) a C, at least one OG who isn't a paper towel, a WR1, probably a WR 2, at least one really solid LB who won't make the center of the field a total weakness, and a pass rusher first before CB. In fact, you could argue we desperately need a competent kicker as well who isn't going to leave points on the field every game.

Hell, the Pats are actually a worse rushing defense than a pass defense, we need more guys upfront who don't get pushed around.

If we get Hunter, the only real move is to get him to play WR, and I don't think he's even the best WR in the draft. He's probably better served on a team that desperately needs secondary help and could benefit from a few trick plays on offense. That's where the most value will be gotten for him.

In the NFL you can either commit to being a CB and learning how to shut down top flight WR's or you can commit to being a WR and running routes and catching the ball to break coverage in high octane offenses full of creative play design. You can not do both. And even if Hunter somehow could go in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber during practice so he had time to learn both, he'd get burned out late in every single game playing both ways against NFL talent.

Perfect.
I would add the risk of injuries double and his legs looks like Tyquans

 

[patman12]

Hunter projects to be an instant impact player.



Trading down also has drawbacks. We did it last year and missed out on Ladd McConkey and got back two WRs whose production combined don't even touch his.

Ladd McConkey 12 games 58 catches, 815 yards, 4TDs
Ja'Lynn Polk 12 games 87 yards 2 TDs
Javon Baker 8 games, 1 start, 0 everything.

Sorry, I meant trading out of the #3 spot (or 2 if the Raiders get a win). As of today, I’m thinking they can draft a cornerstone LT in the draft and a young vet in Higgins in FA but but there are a bunch of things that could happen in FA that might alter my opinion.

Agree about Polk/McConkey, as of year 1 in their careers, the Pats took the wrong guy. I would love for Polk to turn it around but that seems to be a pipe dream at this point.

 

[Joey007]

Nice thing will be that Hunter could be in demand at 3. Definitely could net some capital (maybe an extra day 2 pick) move down a few spots, and get a tackle.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

Yesterday’s game was the one I worried that we’d win. I don’t see us winning any more.