Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

[Tunescribe]

Breer’s article mentioned that it ywas known back in 2019 that Mayo would be succeeding BB.

Anyone think that BB didn’t know that and it had a detrimental effect?

It was worrisome that Breer made the comparison between Jerry Jones’ and Bob Kraft’s personalities.

Kraft has a history of meddling with less than stellar results.

If true, Mayo getting tabbed FIVE YEARS AGO as BB's successor is insanity. And indications are that BB didn't know about this, making it even worse. BB should've been in on this arrangement from the very start, in which case he could have helped prep Jerod as eventual successor.

RKK was off his rocker and Mayo had delusions of grandeur. How dysfunctional can it get?

 

[archstanton543]

Click bait I don't believe it.

Again that "IF" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Nothing to see here.

 

[Tunescribe]

Again that "IF" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Nothing to see here.

We should just agree right now to disagree on all of each other's posts and save the emoji keystroke.

 

[archstanton543]

We should just agree right now to disagree on all of each other's posts and save the emoji keystroke.

You don't think that "report" was written to generate clicks among people who read too fast or have poor reading comprehension?

 

[Tunescribe]

You don't think that "report" was written to generate clicks among people who read too fast or have poor reading comprehension?

That is why I specified "if true." Aside from that, the same thing has been reported by multiple sources.

 

[archstanton543]

That is why I specified "if true." Aside from that, the same thing has been reported by multiple sources.

If true, if Kraft changes his mind he'll move on from Mayo. That's what your saying. That's such a nothingburger of a statement. Not worth the digital ink it was printed on.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I have started hearing stuff about this recently. Something about Jonathan Kraft digging around into Mayo's behavior last year and how he undermined Bill... And that Jonathan is not on the Mayo Train

I think the Krafts are planting their exit from Jerod as I predicted this offseason. If they move on from Jerod, I guarantee you more stuff will come out to make the Krafts look innocent in the disaster they created.

This was why I called Mayo “Jim Tomsula” when he was hired. Both weaseled their way into management wanting to hire them as HC. Harbaugh didn’t like what Tomsula was doing in SF.

The 49ers had some weird infatuation with Tomsula much like Kraft with Mayo. In fact, Adam Gase was offered the job first in 2015, but the 49ers demanded Tomsula be his DC. He declined, so the 49ers promoted him to HC.

 

[Tunescribe]

If true, if Kraft changes his mind he'll move on from Mayo. That's what your saying. That's such a nothingburger of a statement. Not worth the digital ink it was printed on.

No, that's not what I'm saying. My "if true" referenced the report that Mayo was promised the HC job five years ago and BB wasn't informed. Go back and read the posts.

 

[archstanton543]

No, that's not what I'm saying. My "if true" referenced the report that Mayo was promised the HC job five years ago and BB wasn't informed. Go back and read the posts.

You responded to my post about the IF in that Tweet. Go back and read the posts. They're right here on this page.

 

[mgcolby]

You don't think that "report" was written to generate clicks among people who read too fast or have poor reading comprehension?

What has Jerod Mayo done that has you as such a staunch supporter. Instead of hitting a button how about explaining why you think Mayo is the answer. I'd love to hear this.

 

[mgcolby]

Mayo needs to just stop talking during press conferences. He is ****ing terrible, constantly contradicting himself even in the same press conference. Its unbelievable. If he even thinks about adopting a BB trait it should be grunting at the podium and mumbling on to Arizona. He is ****ing horrendous when he talks to the media.

 

[archstanton543]

What has Jerod Mayo done that has you as such a staunch supporter. Instead of hitting a button how about explaining why you think Mayo is the answer. I'd love to hear this.

Speaking of poor reading comprehension. All I've ever said that Mayo isn't going to get fired at the end of the season. I never said he's some great coaching mind that needs some experience and seasoning.

 

[mgcolby]

Speaking of poor reading comprehension. All I've ever said that Mayo isn't going to get fired at the end of the season. I never said he's some great coaching mind that needs some experience and seasoning.

Nothing to do with reading comprehension smart ass. I have not seen any substative post from you on the subject. Not to say I couldn't have missed them. I don't read or remember every single post I read on here. But constantly seeing your disagree button on a ton of negative Mayo centric posts made me wonder what your deal was. It implies that you disagree with what is being posted not that you simply think he is not being fired. That is the problem with just lazily clicking a button and not following up with a response.

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I'd love to hear your views on this. If you already have posted about it, feel free to link that.

 

[Tunescribe]

You responded to my post about the IF in that Tweet. Go back and read the posts. They're right here on this page.

My response specifically referenced your predilection for drive-by disagree emojis, that should've been evident. Beyond that, your "heavy lifting" comment re. Kraft moving on from Mayo lacks context -- no idea what that's supposed to mean.

 

[archstanton543]

My response specifically referenced your predilection for drive-by disagree emojis, that should've been evident. Beyond that, your "heavy lifting" comment re. Kraft moving on from Mayo lacks context -- no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Read the tweet I'm responding to. Maybe you have that person blocked or something.

 

[archstanton543]

Nothing to do with reading comprehension smart ass. I have not seen any substative post from you on the subject. Not to say I couldn't have missed them. I don't read or remember every single post I read on here. But constantly seeing your disagree button on a ton of negative Mayo centric posts made me wonder what your deal was. It implies that you disagree with what is being posted not that you simply think he is not being fired. That is the problem with just lazily clicking a button and not following up with a response.

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said I'd love to hear your views on this. If you already have posted about it, feel free to link that.

Just because you haven't read my thoughts on Mayo doesn't mean I haven't made them. This thread is currently 54 pages long. If you go back, you'll see lots of comments by my on Mayo. Including one where I said that there might be a sliver of a chance he does get fired after this chance.

So, I'll give you my thoughts on Mayo and his chances of being fired at the end of this year. I don't think he's some great football mind that just needs some experience and seasoning. He's not going to get fired at the end of this year even if they lose the last 4 games by 50 points. Why? Bob and Jonathan made a commitment to him and don't want to look like fools like the Jets and other teams cycling through head coaches every year or every other year. Yes, it's "throwing good money after bad" or the sunken cost fallacy but as a wise man once said, "It is what it is". They're not getting rid of him this rapidly approaching off season. They may get rid of him next season if there's no improvement over this year but that's a long time from now.

Is that clear enough for you?

 

[TheRainMaker]

So, I'll give you my thoughts on Mayo and his chances of being fired at the end of this year. I don't think he's some great football mind that just needs some experience and seasoning. He's not going to get fired at the end of this year even if they lose the last 4 games by 50 points. Why? Bob and Jonathan made a commitment to him and don't want to look like fools like the Jets and other teams cycling through head coaches every year or every other year. Yes, it's "throwing good money after bad" or the sunken cost fallacy but as a wise man once said, "It is what it is". They're not getting rid of him this rapidly approaching off season. They may get rid of him next season if there's no improvement over this year but that's a long time from now.

Is that clear enough for you?

So you don't think under any circumstances that the Kraft's would move on from Mayo after this season?

What if Ben Johnson has interest in NE?

What if the 49ers entertained a trade for Kyle Shanahan?

How about if Joe Brady showed interest who's coordinated a pedestrian personnel in Buffalo to 30 points per game?

You think the Kraft's would pass that up?

 

[Brotherblues]

I think Mayo sucks too.
I also think that if the Krafts start hiring new coaching staffs every year, we'll be the Jets or Panthers in short order. If they keep Mayo, and just blow out all his hires and put in actual, professional coaches in their place, then I'd be ok with that.

Mayo didn't hire Van Pelt, or anyone else on that offense or special teams, just for reference.

I've seen this argument about becoming the jets by canning a clearly incompetent coach after just one season.

I just want to point out the Jets haven't canned a guy after one season since Al Groh in 2000. Sticking with inferior and incompetent HCs has been the Jete go-to move since then.

For reference here are the one-and-done HCs since 1981:

1981-2000
Les Steckel, Minnesota Vikings, 1984
Rod Rust, New England Patriots, 1990
Richie Petitbon, Washington, 1993
Pete Carroll, New York Jets, 1994
Joe Bugel, Las Vegas Raiders, 1997
Ray Rhodes, Green Bay Packers, 1999
Al Groh, New York Jets, 2000

2001-2010
Marty Schottenheimer, Washington, 2001
Art Shell, Las Vegas Raiders, 2006
Cam Cameron, Miami Dolphins, 2007
Bobby Petrino, Atlanta Falcons, 2007
Jim Mora Jr., Seattle Seahawks, 2009

2011-2023
Hue Jackson, Las Vegas Raiders, 2011
Mike Mularkey, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2012
Rob Chudzinkski, Cleveland Browns, 2013
Jim Tomsula, San Francisco 49ers, 2015
Chip Kelly, San Francisco 49ers, 2016
Steve Wilks, Arizona Cardinals, 2018
Freddie Kitchens, Cleveland Browns, 2019
Urban Meyer, Jacksonville Jaguars, 2021
David Culley, Houston Texans, 2021
Nathaniel Hackett, Denver Broncos, 2022
Lovie Smith, Houston Texans, 2022
Frank Reich, Carolina Panthers, 2023

None of those firings was a mistake. When a guy is clearly over his head, you move on. The Niners fired first year coaches in back to back years before settling on Shannahan. Ditto the Texans before Ryans.

Trying to ride a failure like Gase or Rhodes is exactly what the Jete do. Sticking with Mayo beyond this season would be the Jetest thing Kraft could do.

 

[Ross12]

I think the Krafts are planting their exit from Jerod as I predicted this offseason. If they move on from Jerod, I guarantee you more stuff will come out to make the Krafts look innocent in the disaster they created.

This was why I called Mayo “Jim Tomsula” when he was hired. Both weaseled their way into management wanting to hire them as HC. Harbaugh didn’t like what Tomsula was doing in SF.

The 49ers had some weird infatuation with Tomsula much like Kraft with Mayo. In fact, Adam Gase was offered the job first in 2015, but the 49ers demanded Tomsula be his DC. He declined, so the 49ers promoted him to HC.

That is how I currently read it as well. This is the start of a narrative of negative Mayo press in the media which will increase slowly over the next 4 weeks if the team does not turn it around, so that at the end of the season the Krafts will be able to attempt to look like innocent bystanders who got taken for a ride.

I think Mayo will really need to have the team looking sharp, particularly the defense, over these next 4 weeks in order to be very safe. It will be hard to have a hot defense going against Arizona and Buffalo (twice). The Chargers are not as potent but their defense is tougher.

I also wonder if Jonathan is testing the waters in who might be interested in the job and then feeding that to Bob. If the team looks no better at end of season and Bob knows definitively that a Vrabel, Ben Johnson or some other hot candidate wants the job, he would be more likely to make the change.

I also kind of wonder... to some extent... if Wolf is part of this. Many in the media are crapping on the draft picks like Polk and Baker, but Wolf could easily try to argue to Kraft that they are perfectly acceptable players whose development is being hurt by bad coaching and leadership.

 

[archstanton543]

So you don't think under any circumstances that the Kraft's would move on from Mayo after this season?

What if Ben Johnson has interest in NE?

What if the 49ers entertained a trade for Kyle Shanahan?

How about if Joe Brady showed interest who's coordinated a pedestrian personnel in Buffalo to 30 points per game?

You think the Kraft's would pass that up?

Yes.

Kraft isn't going to move on from Mayo this off season.