Least favorite Patriots teams

[Real fan 02]

I don't hate all rebuilds. It was more their attitude and mental weakness (no wins on the road) that bothered me. The "Jetsons" comment pushed them over the edge to despicable to me.

I actually met Adalius that night. He was miserable.

Thomas was an older player when we signed him wich was odd.. surprised bill gave a player at 29 a long term deal.. typically he's trying to get rid of them by then.. he was great for us in 07.. Shawn springs was the problem that season he permeated the locker room with attitude. Had Rodney and Bruschi been there none of that would have happened.

 

[Real fan 02]

Who else was pissed off when they lost at Denver in 2009 and McDaniels was acting like he was getting ready for a Gatorade bath fist pumping his way out of the stadium?

That Denver team was fecking terrible!

Kyle Orton what a joke lol.. isn't that the game we lost mayo to a knee injury?? I wonder if that was when McDaniels asked brady for his jock strap.

 

[sb1]

Who else was pissed off when they lost at Denver in 2009 and McDaniels was acting like he was getting ready for a Gatorade bath fist pumping his way out of the stadium?

That Denver team was fecking terrible!

Josh looked like a complete clown doing that. Like he was almost ready to rip off his shirt Hulk Hogan style. Like his team just won the SB

 

[Joey007]

I don't hate all rebuilds. It was more their attitude and mental weakness (no wins on the road) that bothered me. The "Jetsons" comment pushed them over the edge to despicable to me.

I actually met Adalius that night. He was miserable.

they just felt lame. Kind of a bad aura around them that was hard to explain

 

[upstater1]

Very simple TOM BRADY

But, 2010 was not so hot.

Remember these names?

Vince Wilfork, Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker, Stevan Ridley, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez, Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Sebastian Vollmer, Dan Connolly, Julian Edelman, Donte Hightower, Chandler Jones, Jerod Mayo, Rod Ninkovich, Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Stephon Gilmore, Steven Gostkowski, James White, Shane Vereen, Ryan Wendell, Danny Woodhead.

No doubt, Tom Brady was the key. But the Brady of 2009 and 2010 was far surpassed by the Brady we saw later after a ton of new players were added to the team. There's the first dynasty, and the second dynasty. Brady is the only hangover from the first to the second. But you look at the names above that I just listed and you see that the team was stocked once again with talent.

 

[Real fan 02]

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But, 2010 was not so hot.

Remember these names?

Vince Wilfork, Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker, Stevan Ridley, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez, Nate Solder, Logan Mankins, Sebastian Vollmer, Dan Connolly, Julian Edelman, Donte Hightower, Chandler Jones, Jerod Mayo, Rod Ninkovich, Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Stephon Gilmore, Steven Gostkowski, James White, Shane Vereen, Ryan Wendell, Danny Woodhead.

No doubt, Tom Brady was the key. But the Brady of 2009 and 2010 was far surpassed by the Brady we saw later after a ton of new players were added to the team. There's the first dynasty, and the second dynasty. Brady is the only hangover from the first to the second. But you look at the names above that I just listed and you see that the team was stocked once again with talent.

Absolutely agree. Brady said in his own words he became a much better player in his 30s then in his 20s.. all those players mentioned were all integral to the winning. As we know the roster was designed around the QB.. guys were brought in to adapt to the offense and fit in roles. Chung the 2nd time around was phenomenal. Gilly became an all pro here and DPOY. Sweet feet & vereen ran us to the superbowl score against the Seahawks and Falcons. Boy I wish we had players like that on this roster.

 

[203Pat]

Maybe it is recency bias but last year's team is up there for me. Between the two little engines that couldn't at QB and the whole circus around them, the Jack Jones nonsense, the JC Jackson experience, Juju, the issues with the assistant coaches, Bill in a pissing match with Mac, and then Kraft it was a disaster of a season. Add all that to the fact that the only players on the team worth watching last year (Gonzalez, Judon, and Marcus Jones) all got hurt pretty early.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Kyle Orton what a joke lol.. isn't that the game we lost mayo to a knee injury?? I wonder if that was when McDaniels asked brady for his jock strap.

I was there. Brady sucked. Team sucked. Still not as mad about that game as some other more notable playoff losses here at Milehigh.

And **** Kyle Orton and Skippy.

 

[Vindicate]

Josh looked like a complete clown doing that. Like he was almost ready to rip off his shirt Hulk Hogan style. Like his team just won the SB

Every ex-coach here loved to beat Bill. I think they all won their first game against him, as well. The only one who didn't look like a kid who got an N64 for Christmas was Flores - who had the best record against Bill of any coach in the Bill-Patriots era.

I know his time in Miami was weird and tumultuous (I still lean it being majorly Miami meddling), but I'd love to see Flores back. I'm not saying he's a perfect HC, but he would've made so much more sense than Mayo IMO. I'm sure Mayo could learn a LOT from him.

 

[Real fan 02]

I was there. Brady sucked. Team sucked. Still not as mad about that game as some other more notable playoff losses here at Milehigh.

And **** Kyle Orton and Skippy.

That was 2009? The greatest was his first season back from the ACL.. I'd take that 2009 team over anything we've seen the last 4 seasons.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

1990 is far and away the correct answer. The HC was clueless, the GM was a bad joke, the owner was a scumbag, the QB's were the ghost of Steve Grogan, Hodson,Marc Wilson and 70% of the players DGAF. It was straight up embarrassing to be a Pats fan. No Pats team before or since has come close to being half as contemptible.

I am inclined to agree.

Victor Kiam was, unfortunately, a miserable owner.

Despite it all, he managed to get rid of Berry and then Eason.

Pat Sullivan took a nose dive as a GM. Hiring Rod Rust is utter suicide. Decent assistant, not in any way head coach material.

Of course, the Patriots have to be the primary culprit in the NFL exiling who would become, not surprisingly to those paying attention to results and not height or the lack of flashy controversy, the best quarterback of the decade, Doug Flutie, to Canada for the prime of his career - eight years.

Starting at the top, there was a poisonous malaise infecting the entire organization. A better GM would have made those three (3) seasons really worth watching, even as the franchise was in financial collapse.

Flutie stays as the starter, gets the experience any quarterback needs, Fryar isn't compelled to ask to be traded before Parcells is hired, you have an extremely different picture. Parcells-Flutie-Armstrong-Fryar is a Super Bowl-winning offensive nucleus. Of course, as long as they still get C-Mart (and Bill lets him run the ball).

 

[signbabybrady]

This year might take the cake

 

[maust]

I am inclined to agree.

Victor Kiam was, unfortunately, a miserable owner.

Despite it all, he managed to get rid of Berry and then Eason.

Pat Sullivan took a nose dive as a GM. Hiring Rod Rust is utter suicide. Decent assistant, not in any way head coach material.

Of course, the Patriots have to be the primary culprit in the NFL exiling who would become, not surprisingly to those paying attention to results and not height or the lack of flashy controversy, the best quarterback of the decade, Doug Flutie, to Canada for the prime of his career - eight years.

Starting at the top, there was a poisonous malaise infecting the entire organization. A better GM would have made those three (3) seasons really worth watching, even as the franchise was in financial collapse.

Flutie stays as the starter, gets the experience any quarterback needs, Fryar isn't compelled to ask to be traded before Parcells is hired, you have an extremely different picture. Parcells-Flutie-Armstrong-Fryar is a Super Bowl-winning offensive nucleus. Of course, as long as they still get C-Mart (and Bill lets him run the ball).

Hard to believe Pat wasn't even the most incompetent Sullivan. Chuck won that 'prize' going away. Imagine only ponying up $18K of your own money to create an asset worth $100M just 28 years later but bankrupting the whole thing and ending up reviled, disgraced and broke. Our Sullivan's some truly 'creative' thinking outta that bunch. And yet they weren't even the Pats worst owner.

It's easy for today's fans to dump on ol' Krafty Bob but I'll go to my grave thanking the football gods for him.

 

[denverpatsfan]

This year might take the cake

NFW

 

[Ray Ray 717]

McDaniel stint in Denver was so appallingly deplorable that it’s hard to fathom his second chance in LA was even more contemptible.

McDaniels will go down as the biggest poser in NFL history to any non patriot fan

 

[Vindicate]

This year might take the cake

JFC.

 

[StanleyGrogan]

I'm going to paraphrase a quote I heard about books. "Even bad Patriots teams ARE Patriots teams, and therefore sacred. " Good or bad , they are the team I follow and more importantly support.
Low moments like this are tough, but I was always very conscious during the Glory times that it wouldn't last forever, so to drink it all in while it did. So I did.
This is not an enjoyable period, it has to be said, although there still moments to be savoured like watching Maye blossom, albeit behind a row of turnstiles.
Just like things cant stay good forever, nor can they stay bad. Things will get better. They always do. Unless you are the Jets.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Hard to believe Pat wasn't even the most incompetent Sullivan. Chuck won that 'prize' going away. Imagine only ponying up $18K of your own money to create an asset worth $100M just 28 years later but ending up bankrupting the whole thing and ending up reviled, disgraced and broke. Our Sullivan's some truly 'creative' thinking outta that bunch. And yet they weren't even the Pats worst owner.

It's easy for today's fans to dump on ol' Krafty Bob but I'll go to my grave thanking the football gods for him.

I get nepotism but holy Chr*st.

I believe Chuck had something to do with overruling Fairbanks, not paying Hannah & Gray and thus keeping us out of the playoffs.

He had everything to do with screaming right after the just-contract extended Darryl Stingley was paralyzed by a total cheap shot from Tatum, "WE'RE NOT PAYING HIM!!!!!!!!!!"

He made Sam Bam sit out a year and Russ Francis retire from the game (until Walsh picked him up for the 49ers).

After his Victory Tour investment turned to dust, I heard Chuck was living in the stadium offices. I think the kindest way to put it is the guy had some serious problems.

 

[captain stone]

In no particular order:

This year's team

Last year's team

2022

2020

2019

2009

1990-92

 

[Real fan 02]

In no particular order:

This year's team

Last year's team

2022

2020

2019

2009

1990-92

2002, 2005, 2020, 2009, 2024 for me.