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Patriots Pregame Thread Week 12: 3-8 Patriots at 4-6 Dolphins (-7½)

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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We are on to Miami.

Dolphins have won two in a row, and need a win to keep their playoff hopes alive.
They are cureently two games behind Denver for the final wild card spot.


Odds:
Miami -7½
over/under 45½
moneyline Pats +300, Fins -375


Miami Team Rankings, Offense:
#21 - 319 yards per game
#27 - 18.1 points per game
#24 - 197 yards passing per game
#11 - 120 yards rushing per game

Miami Team Rankings, Defense:
#9 -- 308 yards per game
#14 - 22.1 points per game
#10 - 199 yards passing per game
#9 -- 109 yards rushing per game

Miami Team Rankings, Turnovers:
#20 - -2 Turnover Differential
#23 - 9 Takeaways (6 Int, 3 Fumbles)
#9 -- 11 Giveaways (5 Int, 6 Fumbles)


Patriots Team Rankings, Offense:
#31 - 281 yards per game
#30 - 16.5 points per game
#32 - 166 yards passing per game
#21 - 115 yards rushing per game

Patriots Team Rankings, Defense:
#20 - 345 yards per game
#17 - 22.5 points per game
#20 - 217 yards passing per game
#20 - 128 yards rushing per game

Patriots Team Rankings, Turnovers:
#26 - -6 Turnover Differential
#25 - 8 Takeaways (4 Int, 4 Fumbles)
#21 - 14 Giveaways (7 Int, 7 Fumbles)
 


That's why the defense sucks right now. They weren't good at takeaways last year either - only 23rd in the league. Elite defense my ass.

One turnover our way probably wins the game yesterday. Couldn't even get one.
 
after Nacua & Kupp show, I'm dreading the hill/waddle combo...

last year, week 8
Hill 8/13, 112 yards, 14.00 yds/rec, 1 td
Waddle 7/12, 121 yards, 17.29 yds/rec, 1 td

could be a long day...
 
Well last time they should’ve put up around 24 on us with tyler huntley at QB if not for some botched snaps and st miscues. Imagine with tua we’re looking at 35 plus
 
Will Tua finally lose to the Patriots? Just need to double both Waddle and Hill. I have hope!!!!!
 
Tua will continue his undefeated streak.

Looks like a nice day for a hike here in Colorado on Sunday.
I'll be winterizing my outdoor plants mulching and all that good stuff. I think this one will be a laugher for Miami just throw away from Gonzo completion. Our Offense ain't keeping anybody up at nights the Game plan is Blitz the **** out of Drake Maye eventually he'll make a mistake their WR's all suck...that's what McDaniel is telling his Coaching staff.
 
Will Tua finally lose to the Patriots? Just need to double both Waddle and Hill. I have hope!!!!!
Achane and Mostert will have 200 rushing between them. The Rams moved the ball way too easy on us Miami have a Better and Faster Offense. This one could end early ugly.
 
They haven’t won in Miami in forever it seems like. Until they do I have no reason to believe it starts this week unfortunately.
 
after Nacua & Kupp show, I'm dreading the hill/waddle combo...

last year, week 8
Hill 8/13, 112 yards, 14.00 yds/rec, 1 td
Waddle 7/12, 121 yards, 17.29 yds/rec, 1 td

could be a long day...
Will be a very long day...can't wait to see the vaunted Zone Defense.
 
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Miami should put up 30, I think the last time we put up 30 was in week 6 of 2022.
Patriots defense struggles against motion, Dolphins use a ton of motion.
Patriots MUST win the turnover battle and run the ball a bit to have any shot.
They averaged 8 yards a carry last game vs Miami and Douglas had a good game even with Jacoby. They have ways to attack Miami but can they stop Miami's offense?
 
We are on to Miami.

Dolphins have won two in a row, and need a win to keep their playoff hopes alive.
They are cureently two games behind Denver for the final wild card spot.


Odds:
Miami -7½
over/under 45½
moneyline Pats +300, Fins -375


Miami Team Rankings, Offense:
#21 - 319 yards per game
#27 - 18.1 points per game
#24 - 197 yards passing per game
#11 - 120 yards rushing per game

Miami Team Rankings, Defense:
#9 -- 308 yards per game
#14 - 22.1 points per game
#10 - 199 yards passing per game
#9 -- 109 yards rushing per game

Miami Team Rankings, Turnovers:
#20 - -2 Turnover Differential
#23 - 9 Takeaways (6 Int, 3 Fumbles)
#9 -- 11 Giveaways (5 Int, 6 Fumbles)


Patriots Team Rankings, Offense:
#31 - 281 yards per game
#30 - 16.5 points per game
#32 - 166 yards passing per game
#21 - 115 yards rushing per game

Patriots Team Rankings, Defense:
#20 - 345 yards per game
#17 - 22.5 points per game
#20 - 217 yards passing per game
#20 - 128 yards rushing per game

Patriots Team Rankings, Turnovers:
#26 - -6 Turnover Differential
#25 - 8 Takeaways (4 Int, 4 Fumbles)
#21 - 14 Giveaways (7 Int, 7 Fumbles)
@jmt57 all we have to do is look at the WRs and Offensive Line that Tua has, and look at our offense not named Drake.. tells you exactly what the outcome will be.
 
De Achane is a nice all purpose RB he's going to give us hell with the other three... Hill - Waddle and Jonnu.
 
De Achane is a nice all purpose RB he's going to give us hell with the other three... Hill - Waddle and Jonnu.
Jennings is our best edge player... Barmore is not yet fully back yet.. I will allow him time. But yeah.. Miami offense are a bunch of track stars.
 
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