Patriots Pregame Thread Week 11: Rams vs Pats pregame thread

[Triumph]

Kinda crazy to only have 3 wins and still be in the hunt even if just barely. I think we’ll lose but Rams are beatable.

The Pats went from the # 1 draft slot to # 6 by beating the Bears.

 

[p8ryts]

The Pats went from the # 1 draft slot to # 6 by beating the Bears.

I think last week was more about the Bears. They do have OL problems also, but I'll be surprised if Stafford doesn't have a big day.

 

[Brotherblues]

Kinda crazy to only have 3 wins and still be in the hunt even if just barely. I think we’ll lose but Rams are beatable.

Is it crazy though? How much of a cushion can the 7th seed even have over the 12ish seed in the conference after just 10 games?

 

[Real fan 02]

Allen is over the hill, Odunze couldn't separate in college and is worse in the pros, he's a slightly more talented Polk. Boutte and Douglas are better than Odunze.

DJ Moore is good but is frustrated with the QB and OC and walking off the field in the middle of the plays. Attitude is crap.

As PatsFan2 pointed out it's the QB position. DJ is fresn off a 1,300 season. Odunze is rookie and would be a #1 option for Drake if here as would Allen or DJ. DD and Boutte are 3s at best elsewhere. I'll take DJ along with the guys we currently have would take drakes game to another level.

 

[Toofy]

Will Chicago trade DJ for our 2nd ?

 

[raduray]

That TD was a good sign Real I'm staying positive.

He caught one pass the entire game. A wide open two yard completion any one of us could have caught. Let's not get carried away quite yet.

 

[PatsFan2]

He caught one pass the entire game. A wide open two yard completion any one of us could have caught. Let's not get carried away quite yet.

 

[raduray]

Nick Caley returns to Foxboro!

 

[PatsFan2]

He caught one pass the entire game. A wide open two yard completion any one of us could have caught. Let's not get carried away quite yet.

Polk still have Seven Games to go this is his Second half. You know the old saying "It's not how you start it's how you finish". IF Polk can somehow get his numbers close to the 250 or 300 mark I would be very happy. Some Rookies WR's have tough First years and take off in year two. That said Polk have an advantage to succeed in QB Drake Maye: bad QB play won't be an excuse for him.

 

[KCSVEN]

As PatsFan2 pointed out it's the QB position. DJ is fresn off a 1,300 season. Odunze is rookie and would be a #1 option for Drake if here as would Allen or DJ. DD and Boutte are 3s at best elsewhere. I'll take DJ along with the guys we currently have would take drakes game to another level.

I agree QB is the MAIN problem but DJ Moore is the only guy better than Boutte and Douglas right now on tape.
Odunze was OK at best in college and OK at best now. YAC and separation are big components that translate to the NFL, Odunze had neither in college, not a first-round pick IMO. He's a good zone receiver but easily taken out 1 on 1. I thought maybe Gonzalez is so good Odunze looked so bad but then Marcus Jones was on him and same thing but even worse looking as he had trouble getting off the line with little Marcus Jones in press coverage.
He can't block. You want to know when the Bears are likely passing? Odunze on the field, want to know when they are likely running? Odunze off the field.
Odunze looks like KJ Osborn on the tape, Allen looks like 2024 Kendrick Bourne. So it's DJ Moore really that trumps the Pats WR and they have a better offensive line.
Odunze and Boutte are basically the exact same age, I would not trade them straight up.
Allen looks like the 16 different injures over his career have caught up with him. He's got nothing left. Tavai was able to cover Allen on some plays!

Saying all that based on last week's tape review, Stafford makes at least 5 more plays that Williams missed in that game. Williams had plays that were there but were NFL windows not college windows, so he didn't try many of them. Williams is not an NFL QB currently and Stafford is a good one.

 

[Real fan 02]

Will Chicago trade DJ for our 2nd ?

I think we could get him for the 3rd we got for judon. Wolf best be on this come FA

 

[Real fan 02]

I agree QB is the MAIN problem but DJ Moore is the only guy better than Boutte and Douglas right now on tape.
Odunze was OK at best in college and OK at best now. YAC and separation are big components that translate to the NFL, Odunze had neither in college, not a first-round pick IMO. He's a good zone receiver but easily taken out 1 on 1. I thought maybe Gonzalez is so good Odunze looked so bad but then Marcus Jones was on him and same thing but even worse looking as he had trouble getting off the line with little Marcus Jones in press coverage.
He can't block. You want to know when the Bears are likely passing? Odunze on the field, want to know when they are likely running? Odunze off the field.
Odunze looks like KJ Osborn on the tape, Allen looks like 2024 Kendrick Bourne. So it's DJ Moore really that trumps the Pats WR and they have a better offensive line.
Odunze and Boutte are basically the exact same age, I would not trade them straight up.
Allen looks like the 16 different injures over his career have caught up with him. He's got nothing left. Tavai was able to cover Allen on some plays!

Saying all that based on last week's tape review, Stafford makes at least 5 more plays that Williams missed in that game. Williams had plays that were there but were NFL windows not college windows, so he didn't try many of them. Williams is not an NFL QB currently and Stafford is a good one.

Well if Marcus Jones was on him and he still couldn't do anything then you have me convinced on odunze. So basically odunze is big for nothing? Allen is an older player but still good although he's always hurt. The guy that I would really like is Moore. I believe the way we get a re game changer here for Drake is by trade. This could be the offseason of trades. So you figure next season at WR. Moore/Higgins, KB, Pop, polk,baker and Boutte. Not a bad WR room. I really like Boutte and I think currently he's the best WR that can win outside.

 

[KCSVEN]

They are

Well if Marcus Jones was on him and he still couldn't do anything then you have me convinced on odunze. So basically odunze is big for nothing? Allen is an older player but still good although he's always hurt. The guy that I would really like is Moore. I believe the way we get a re game changer here for Drake is by trade. This could be the offseason of trades. So you figure next season at WR. Moore/Higgins, KB, Pop, polk,baker and Boutte. Not a bad WR room. I really like Boutte and I think currently he's the best WR that can win outside.

They are not getting rid of Moore, UNLESS his attitude gets so bad.....
Pipe dream but yeah, he'd be great here.

 

[Real fan 02]

They are

They are not getting rid of Moore, UNLESS his attitude gets so bad.....
Pipe dream but yeah, he'd be great here.

Then I guess they getting rid of him.. his deamnor and attitude is such. It's all tied to the production of the QB. We've had to endure this since brady left until we got Drake. Wouldn't say a pipe dream.. Adams was traded 2x, Diggs was traded 2x.. it's possible!

 

[PatsFan2]

The Rams have some Young Quick guys who could give our Problematic OL some trouble. That said they're a little on the smaller side hope we can run on them.

 

[PatsFan2]

Then I guess they getting rid of him.. his deamnor and attitude is such. It's all tied to the production of the QB. We've had to endure this since brady left until we got Drake. Wouldn't say a pipe dream.. Adams was traded 2x, Diggs was traded 2x.. it's possible!

Wolf knows how important WR's are I know he would be all over D.J. Moore in a Trade. I would give up a Second Rounder for him. Dude is coming off a career best Receiving season with Justin Fields in 2023 nuff said.

 

[PatsFan2]

I agree QB is the MAIN problem but DJ Moore is the only guy better than Boutte and Douglas right now on tape.
Odunze was OK at best in college and OK at best now. YAC and separation are big components that translate to the NFL, Odunze had neither in college, not a first-round pick IMO. He's a good zone receiver but easily taken out 1 on 1. I thought maybe Gonzalez is so good Odunze looked so bad but then Marcus Jones was on him and same thing but even worse looking as he had trouble getting off the line with little Marcus Jones in press coverage.
He can't block. You want to know when the Bears are likely passing? Odunze on the field, want to know when they are likely running? Odunze off the field.
Odunze looks like KJ Osborn on the tape, Allen looks like 2024 Kendrick Bourne. So it's DJ Moore really that trumps the Pats WR and they have a better offensive line.
Odunze and Boutte are basically the exact same age, I would not trade them straight up.
Allen looks like the 16 different injures over his career have caught up with him. He's got nothing left. Tavai was able to cover Allen on some plays!

Saying all that based on last week's tape review, Stafford makes at least 5 more plays that Williams missed in that game. Williams had plays that were there but were NFL windows not college windows, so he didn't try many of them. Williams is not an NFL QB currently and Stafford is a good one.

A legitimate #2 WR puts us over the Top that pushes both Douglas and Boutte down a notch. First Downs and Big plays galore.

 

[Real fan 02]

Wolf knows how important WR's are I know he would be all over D.J. Moore in a Trade. I would give up Second Rounder for him. Dude is coming off a career best Receiving season with Justin Fields in 2023 nuff said.

Yes as I was just saying WR trades have been commonplace now. I'm starting to lean more towards us getting a guy like DJ Reed by trade instead of FA.. look at Diggs and adams for example! I'd say that 3rd for judon for Reed?

 

[Real fan 02]

A legitimate #2 WR puts us over the Top that pushes both Douglas and Boutte down a notch. First Downs and Big plays galore.

The jury still out on odunze.. he's a rookie like polk and baker.. I can't really make assessments on what they are just yet as NFL players.. if N'Keal Harry and Tyquan got free rides for multiple seasons then so should they be allowed some time. You got me on this DJ reed train PF2..

 

[Real fan 02]

The Rams have some Young Quick guys who could give our Problematic OL some trouble. That said they're a little on the smaller side hope we can run on them.

You said it brother. Running is the key.. I would like AVP to use the pass though to open up the run.. I would hope mayo would tell him through the headset to pass on 1st down Brissett isn’t the QB anymore