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DWhite coming out of his Payton Pritchard bag, nailing a transition 3 at the 1st qtr buzzer
 
Q1

They need to calm down.

Impatience, impatience, impatience. Very little ball movement, just attacking without much thought.

Tatum with 5 missed contested step back 3s.
Yeah, they can't mess around with this team. Indy knows they can hang.
 
if you want to talk about Olympic team miscasting, Haliburton, not White, is the guy to look at.
 
Celtics so many missed layups in first half
 
24 pt lead down to 14. Wonder if the team was about to pack it in before Matharin started showboating.
 
Nice comeback late 3rd qtr.
Intensity and focus really picked up.
Just hope it's not too late.
Can't remember ever seeing this many missed layups in a game.
Just play hard 4th qtr
 
The hell doesn’t Queta play more?
 
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! OT!!!
 
Holy F'n ****!!!
 
Great comeback. Wanted the W but most important thing was how they came back. Team has no quit in em.
 
Pretty disappointed in the Cs tonight. Had shades of the old Cs that couldn't get the job done. The comeback was great but it shouldn't have come to that imo. They have to know they are getting every teams best shot every single night. I don't think they have realized that yet, and the sooner they do, the better. They are that good, and yes they will lose games but going down 24...yeah that dog ain't gonna hunt.
 
Mixed feelings on this game. Thrilled with the effort and aura and would say “a good loss” but same concerns as always in games where Cs underperform. Brown 11/30, Tatum 10/25. That’s 21/55. Combined 6/29 on threes. Too many great players and depth for those splits.

White was 8/9, 5/5 on threes and carried them on both ends of the court down the stretch. Every time he touched the ball down the stretch he either scored or created a great opportunity, but the team goes with difficult three point attempts from the Jays when it matters most.

Other thoughts:

-Was Holiday benched? He didn’t come back in after leaving in Q3. He was having an off game. Not sure. Regardless, I think we could see less minutes from Jrue due to his age and Pritchard’s emergence. No one is going to be taking White’s minutes.

-Queta needs to play more. A lot more. His presence makes a huge difference. He owns the rim and especially with the starters they don’t need another offensive weapon. He should either be starting or coming in for Horford, taking Kornet’s minutes.

-I renew my objection to Jordan Walsh playing. He doesn’t seem to know what’s happening out there. Like, he’s just lost, timid, and doesn’t seem to know where to go and has no court instincts. Needs more development or just isn’t an NBA guy.

-Brown has improved his dribbling but needs to stop dribbling. It used to be a problem on his paint/baseline stuff but now he’s doing these little dribbles outside the perimeter for no good reason. But his defense has remained ferocious so I’ll leave it there in terms of his overall effect.

-Tatum just needs to lay off those off balance 3s. I’m fine with him taking more 3s but no player in the world including Steph Curry is making a living by off dribble contested 3 pointers. No one. It’s cool when it happens and it’s a great highlight, but you don’t see all the many misses. It’s a low percentage shot in the end. No reason to jack these up unless the shot clock is running down.
 
Mixed feelings on this game. Thrilled with the effort and aura and would say “a good loss” but same concerns as always in games where Cs underperform. Brown 11/30, Tatum 10/25. That’s 21/55. Combined 6/29 on threes. Too many great players and depth for those splits.

White was 8/9, 5/5 on threes and carried them on both ends of the court down the stretch. Every time he touched the ball down the stretch he either scored or created a great opportunity, but the team goes with difficult three point attempts from the Jays when it matters most.

Other thoughts:

-Was Holiday benched? He didn’t come back in after leaving in Q3. He was having an off game. Not sure. Regardless, I think we could see less minutes from Jrue due to his age and Pritchard’s emergence. No one is going to be taking White’s minutes.

-Queta needs to play more. A lot more. His presence makes a huge difference. He owns the rim and especially with the starters they don’t need another offensive weapon. He should either be starting or coming in for Horford, taking Kornet’s minutes.

-I renew my objection to Jordan Walsh playing. He doesn’t seem to know what’s happening out there. Like, he’s just lost, timid, and doesn’t seem to know where to go and has no court instincts. Needs more development or just isn’t an NBA guy.

-Brown has improved his dribbling but needs to stop dribbling. It used to be a problem on his paint/baseline stuff but now he’s doing these little dribbles outside the perimeter for no good reason. But his defense has remained ferocious so I’ll leave it there in terms of his overall effect.

-Tatum just needs to lay off those off balance 3s. I’m fine with him taking more 3s but no player in the world including Steph Curry is making a living by off dribble contested 3 pointers. No one. It’s cool when it happens and it’s a great highlight, but you don’t see all the many misses. It’s a low percentage shot in the end. No reason to jack these up unless the shot clock is running down.
You summed it up well. All valid points.
C's showed their toughness and why they're Champs late in the game-- but their 1st half- early 3rd qtr sins proved too much to overcome.
Those sins were primarily poor offensive ball movement, including too much dribbling( especially JBrown) and terrible transition defense. All the missed layups didn't help, that's mostly bad luck but that happens to every team- but if you combine it with the sins, you're not beating good teams.
 
No f'n way lmao. Only in Indianapolis.



I don't see the "We" but still lmao at this. Did they use the Colts banner maker?
 
You all know that, to me, this isn’t a kneejerk / recency take. DW is better than Dame at everything except kewl juke moves and finding ways to take (low pct) shots at high volumes.

Jrue is better too obviously. Look at the Bucks with Dame vs Jrue. With Dame, they have an atrocious perimeter defense, chemistry problems, a dribble centric offense, and an overall undeniably worse team.

 
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