Belichick remarks on Mayo's "soft" comments on Pat McAfee Show - "They're not soft"

[sb1]

Bill has kept his mouth shut since he left,

Bill is .426 post Brady, a damaged legacy, 4-13 last season, 73 years old and no team wanted him after he was canned, so it’s best that he doesn’t say much anyway. It’s mostly the Bill pom pom wavers like your buddy Lombardi doing all the talking.

 

[Wozzy]

If the Pats had a good head coach the last couple of seasons - and BB was absolutely not - then who knows?

He had to fight team owners are well as build a team, when you’re only partially responsible for hiring players and coaches then it’s only partially on him. You’re biased, a hater. You have zero objectivity.

How do you know this?

Know what? He has Cousins type arm and athleticism but he’s stupid. You don’t lead the NFL in turnovers otherwise.

Okorafor is gone. Yes bad signing. For everyone else it’s not even half way into a 17 game season. We suck because the roster sucks and a rookie HC has not yet figured out how to use his players well. Bad players = lousy record. Not rocket science.

Every draft pick outside of Maye who’s still a work in progress has sucked until now.

The only free agents Wolf brought in who worked out were known commodities in the NFL; Slye and Gibson… maybe the best free agent kicker and third down back on the market.

Otherwise all his offensive line free agents have sucked, not just Okorafor. When your draft picks can’t play and all your free agent signings suck… your Oline sucks.

They needed 3 starters; QB, LT and a Kicker… they had among the most offseason resources in the league. That has nothing to do with Belichick. You’re running cover and providing excuses.

 

[sb1]

You know what will be great is if Bill made the HOF before old krafty. I really wish that would happen !!!!

I could care less if Kraft makes the HOF and I’m sure I’m not in the minority.

 

[Foxypats]

I could care less if Kraft makes the HOF and I’m sure I’m not in the minority.

It isn't about caring if he makes it or not, it would be great to see him explode .

 

[sb1]

He had to fight team owners are well as build a team, when you’re only partially responsible for hiring players and coaches then it’s only partially on him. You’re biased, a hater. You have zero objectivity.

“partially” lol. Bill drafted every single one of them including his boy Jones.

Know what? He has Cousins type arm and athleticism but he’s stupid. You don’t lead the NFL in turnovers otherwise.

Turnovers has little to do with intelligence. Your “above average” Jacoby doesn’t have a lot of turnovers how did that work out?

Every draft pick outside of Maye who’s still a work in progress has sucked.

And those other guys aren’t a work in progress? It’s not even half a season yet lol.

The only free agents Wolf brought in who worked out were known commodities in the NFL; Slye and Gibson… maybe the best free agent kicker and third down back on the market. Otherwise all his offensive line free agents have sucked, not just Okorafor. When your draft picks can’t play and all your free agent line signings suck… your Oline sucks. That has nothing to do with Belichick. They needed 3 starters; QB, LT and a Kicker… they had among the most offseason resources in the league. You’re running cover and providing excuses.

The resources thing is only a valid complaint if they do nothing with them again and again ala the Oakland A’s. That’s highly unlikely.

 

[Wozzy]

Bill is .426 post Brady, a damaged legacy, 4-13 last season, 73 years old and no team wanted him after he was canned, so it’s best that he doesn’t say much anyway. It’s mostly the Bill pom pom wavers like your buddy Lombardi doing all the talking.

Nobody cares what a biased hater thinks.

The 15 minute standing ovation the crowd gave to Bill at Brady’s day shows the majority of Pat’s Nation thinks you’re takes are full of sht.

 

[sb1]

It isn't about caring if he makes it or not, it would be great to see him explode .

We’ll see. I think he’ll be one of the first to congratulate him and he should be.

 

[sb1]

Nobody cares what a biased hater thinks.

I hate the job that he did the last couple of seasons, yes. He was terrible and was rightfully canned.

That’s not being a biased hater whatever that is.

The 15 minute standing ovation the crowd gave to Bill at Brady’s day shows the majority of Pat’s Nation thinks your takes are full of sht.

If I was there I’d be one of them standing.

“Biased hater” lol

 

[Ring 6]

Bill must really hate Mayo. 3 separate times this week he has criticized him. True Mayo has shown nothing but Bill is a spiteful angry old man.
He knows this will really undercut Mayo and he just does not care.

He is in the media now. You want him to lie?

 

[Boomer B]

Of course they can.
Although if #1 is true, why did they re-sign all those players in the offseason, when they were busy doing nothing else?

Because Wolf was part of the problem and made mistakes?

They should have hired an outside GM who could give a real independent view on the talent and not Wolf who was part of drafting them.

 

[Wozzy]

“partially” lol. Bill drafted every single one of them including his boy Jones.

Agenda

Turnovers has little to do with intelligence. Your “above average” Jacoby doesn’t have a lot of turnovers how did that work out?

You’ve already proven repeatedly you don’t know **** about football. The more you respond only reinforces that. After points, turnovers are the second most important stat in football.

And those other guys aren’t a work in progress? It’s not even half a season yet lol.

They can’t start now so they’re worthless now.

Maye can start and if the line was good enough in front of him they could win games while he works through his issues. It’s not…

The resources thing is only a valid complaint if they do nothing with them again and again ala the Oakland A’s. That’s highly unlikely.

Teams with clean books, lots of cap space, all their draft picks can turn around in one season.

Long rebuilds start with teams like the 2020 Pats, only worse. The most dead cap in the NFL and little talent. The Pats at least kept all their draft picks and didn’t trade them away or it could have been worse.

A year later they were a playoff team, if Mac was Herbert/Stroud/Burrow instead and Jonathan didn’t meddle the Pats would be a winner right now. We wouldn’t be having this discussion.

 

[Wozzy]

I hate the job that he did the last couple of seasons, yes. He was terrible and was rightfully canned.

That’s not being a biased hater whatever that is.

If I was there I’d be one of them standing.

“Biased hater” lol

No, you’re clearly a biased hater, everyone here who isn’t sees it.

 

[sb1]

Agenda

Truth hurts that much huh?

You’ve already proven repeatedly you don’t know **** about football. The more you respond only reinforces that. After points, turnovers are the second most important stat in football.

Mr above average no-turnovers Brissett was amazing wasn’t he.

They can’t start now so they’re worthless now.

Maye can start and if the line was good enough in front of him they could win games while he works through his issues. It’s not…

Again it’s not even half a season. Even Maye is still a TBD. Welcome to a rebuilding team.

Teams with clean books, lots of cap space, all their draft picks can turn around in one season.

That very rarely happens and was never happening here, not with years of sorry drafting in the rear view mirror.

Long rebuilds start with teams like the 2020 Pats, only worse.

2020 was not a rebuild year here. It should have been.

The most dead cap in the NFL and little talent. The Pats at least kept all their draft picks and didn’t trade them away or it could have been worse.

Like I said I wouldn’t hold my breath that they’ll sit on their resources year after year.

A year later they were a playoff team, if Mac was Herbert/Stroud/Burrow instead and Jonathan didn’t meddle the Pats would be a winner right now. We wouldn’t be having this discussion.

If Jones was any of those guys he wouldn’t have fallen to 15 in the first place. He could have been developed into a Cousins like starter if his coaching was adequate which it wasn’t. We’ll never know.

 

[n1997y]

Bill must really hate Mayo. 3 separate times this week he has criticized him. True Mayo has shown nothing but Bill is a spiteful angry old man.
He knows this will really undercut Mayo and he just does not care.

Mayo stabbed him in the back.

What would you expect?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Of course they can.
Although if #1 is true, why did they re-sign all those players in the offseason, when they were busy doing nothing else?

Exactly. You can’t admit the roster bad to the media, yet signed drafted players by Bill to top of the market deals who are currently not making any impact.

 

[TommyD4207]

Looks like the guys that are harder to move on from financially in 2025 are Barmore, Onwenu, Dugger, Stevenson, and probably Godchaux. Most of the other guys are not too painful to move, either via a straight cut, a post-June 1st cut or a trade.

I think those 5 players are most likely guys who would be kept by almost any coach though. Onwenu is a really good guard and has flexibility. Barmore is a potentially elite DT and Godchaux looks good this year. Stevenson is generally good and would give you reason to want to try him in a new scheme. The only one I could see on the outside is perhaps Dugger due to scheme fit, but if that’s the case I doubt they’d have any trouble trading him since much of his deal is tied up in guarantees that NE would pay.

Onwenu *was* a good guard. He's been brutal all season long. Once in a while it looks like he's holding his own again at least, and then he'll lose four reps in a row to nobodies. Barmore might be their best defensive player - but who knows what he'll look like when he comes back, he hasn't played in a while. I hope there's minimal dropoff, because Godchaux could really use the help.

Stevenson was running on an elite level I'd never really seen before, until Mayo decided 3 games too late to send a message and bench him for fumbles (because, you know, the offense had so much else going for them at that point). He then got hurt (again), and has been pretty garbage ever since - and has forced Gibson into a lead-back role he's simply not suited for.

Dugger looks like he's playing out of position, and looks lost. I can chalk that up to lack of coaching, but he's being paid a bunch of money to look lost.

Outside of the defensive tackles (they didn't, at least I *think* the didn't) know Barmore had the blood clots ahead of time, right now, I'm not sure you'd get worse production from street free agents. I know on the o-line, every street free agent they've brought in, has been better than the draft picks and free agent signings.

It's kind of terrifying how little the front office did to set this team up for the future talent-wise, and it's equally terrifying to think they're not going anywhere.

 

[TommyD4207]

Because Wolf was part of the problem and made mistakes?

They should have hired an outside GM who could give a real independent view on the talent and not Wolf who was part of drafting them.

Totally agree. If you're moving on from Belichick, and I said this at the time, blow it up and start over.

The way they went about it, was as if Bill Belichick was the only problem, and fired him, and changed almost nothing else - including re-signing a bunch of his players that made up the supposedly terrible roster.

That's the scary part. This isn't analytical on Kraft's part, it's all about ****ing fee-fees, and that's a good way to end up being the Cardinals or Browns.

 

[SVN]

The new spin from Tom Curran heard on WEEI today
Our WR's are immature but you know who was mature leader ? Jakobi meyers who Bill didnt re sign
Mayo wasnt ready and is learning on the job but you know why ? Because he wasnt expected to take over this soon . BB sucked at 4-13 and hence kraft had to make this move earlier than planned.
This is going to a long rebuild because of all the horrible mistakes overs the years.

Once again Tommy is somehow bringing all this back to BB

 

[TommyD4207]

The new spin from Tom Curran heard on WEEI today
Our WR's are immature but you know who was mature leader ? Jakobi meyers who Bill didnt re sign
Mayo wasnt ready and is learning on the job but you know why ? Because he wasnt expected to take over this soon . BB sucked at 4-13 and hence kraft had to make this move earlier than planned.
This is going to a long rebuild because of all the horrible mistakes overs the years.

Once again Tommy is somehow bringing all this back to BB

He felt his seat on The Committee getting warm. Know who else is a mature leader? Kendrick ****ing Bourne. He's still here.

And...he wasn't expected to take over this soon? He's been groomed for this gig for 2 years now.

 

[slash83]

Bill kept quiet the entire season until Kraft came out and publicly stated he fired Bill, he started all of this nonsense.