PostGame Thread OFFICIAL 2024 Patriots @ 49ers Postgame thread

[PatsFan2]

Bedard warned in the preseason that he was concerned about Brissett's processing speed on plays. Unfortunately he was right. Brissett is not a guy you want behind a disaster of an o-line. He didn't have time for even a fast processing QB on a lot of plays, but he did on others and missed a lot of wide open receivers. I am wondering if the Pats would have been better off getting a guy like Tannehill over Brissett. Tannehill ain't great either, but he isn't as bad as Brissett in this situation.

All that said, I still am against rushing Maye into the starting line up. If the o-line is as bad as it was today, there is little benefit to him being out there and he is as much as a risk of regressing as learning in a situation like this.

Onwenu @ RT is an absolute joke they don't think we have a guy on the Roster who's better than than him there. Onwenu right now have to grade as one of the Worse Right Tackles in the League what a turnstyle.

 

[PaulThePat]

Can someone explain to me in simple sentences why a team who drafted ahead of us in the draft are already looking this good while we have become the laughing stock of the league? If the answer is they made better hires then that's an admission of incompetence not an excuse. Yes, they have Daniels, but let's be honest if we had Daniels he'd be holding the clipboard.

 

[Triumph]

Nope. You are, as usual, wrong.

Not my job to spoon feed low information fans.

 

[DaBruinz]

AVP is great

Except that Olsen and Barth got it wrong. Go back and watch the play. Stevenson ran at the Rightside "A" gap. He didn't run to the LEFT. This was the play that Wallace got HURT on. So it was really easy to look it up again.

Robinson got shoved into the backfield giving Warner the open hole to come in and meet Stevenson.

The play was with 8:11 remaining in the 2nd quarter.

P.S. Don't be like the other jagoffs and put words in people's mouths. Never said AVP was great.

 

[Triumph]

Nope. You are, as usual, wrong.

The only silver lining is that the clown was not you.

 

[DaBruinz]

Can someone explain to me in simple sentences why a team who drafted ahead of us in the draft are already looking this good while we have become the laughing stock of the league? If the answer is they made better hires then that's an admission of incompetence not an excuse. Yes, they have Daniels, but let's be honest if we had Daniels he'd be holding the clipboard.

Washington hasn't had the injuries that the Pats have had. So to say that they've made better hires to this point is premature.

 

[PatsFan2]

Can someone explain to me in simple sentences why a team who drafted ahead of us in the draft are already looking this good while we have become the laughing stock of the league? If the answer is they made better hires then that's an admission of incompetence not an excuse. Yes, they have Daniels, but let's be honest if we had Daniels he'd be holding the clipboard.

I wanted Daniels over Maye after Watching both and I really liked Maye. I think all Three QB's have the potential to be Great...just wish we would play ours.

 

[Triumph]

Thats the spirit

At least the Pats are 1 - 3 with Jagoby.

It's like Delmar in the movie " OH Brother where art thou"

Pete will be 84 when he finally gets out of prison, but Delmar is happy because he will be only 82.

 

[TommyD4207]

From 2020-2023, we had 4 QB'S. How does Brissette stack up? Which would you rather have starting instead of Brissett.

Cam Newton, it's not even close. Hell, I might want Cam Newton *now* and he hasn't seen a football field in 2 years.

 

[PaulThePat]

Cam Newton, it's not even close. Hell, I might want Cam Newton *now* and he hasn't seen a football field in 2 years.

I've said elsewhere I'm not sure what the point of JB was other than the "he knows AVPs system" shtick.

Should have just kept the Zapp if all we wanted was a warm body. At least Bailey had won some games round here lately.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Can someone explain to me in simple sentences why a team who drafted ahead of us in the draft are already looking this good while we have become the laughing stock of the league? If the answer is they made better hires then that's an admission of incompetence not an excuse. Yes, they have Daniels, but let's be honest if we had Daniels he'd be holding the clipboard.

Yeah and Maye would be balling in WSH.

Their coaches knows what they are doing that’s the difference

 

[TomPatriot]

Yeah and Maye would be balling in WSH.

Their coaches knows what they are doing that’s the difference

Daniels is in his seventh year of post-HS football. Maye is in his fourth. Big difference beyond coaching.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I've said elsewhere I'm not sure what the point of JB was other than the "he knows AVPs system" shtick.

Should have just kept the Zapp if all we wanted was a warm body. At least Bailey had won some games round here lately.

The point is that our "QB guru" offensive coaching staff thought long and hard and then signed JB as the bridge QB. That should scare you.

The criteria our QB coaching brain trust did not use to sign a bridge QB included 1. Can read a defense 2. Knows how to look off a safety 3. Can go through multiple progressions 4. Can get outside and throw on the run 5. Can use his legs to extend plays. That should scare you.

 

[PaulThePat]

Daniels is in his seventh year of post-HS football. Maye is in his fourth. Big difference beyond coaching.

Definitely true. Jayden was unplayable last year. He's on fire that's for sure but it's still LSU to the NFL and he's made the leap, and I doubt he's made it on his own.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Is Joey Slye the GOAT kicker? Discuss.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Daniels is in his seventh year of post-HS football. Maye is in his fourth. Big difference beyond coaching.

This is the only reason to not play Maye. He is young and is skill potential is impressive but his skill set needs time to fill out.

 

[PaulThePat]

That should scare you.

What scares (and confuses me) more is how we've gone from the No 1 franchise in the NFL to a team who are scared to play someone in case they get hurt. Yes, we all expected a drop off but this has been more than a "drop off"....and don't get me started on rebuilds. We've been rebuilding since before Covid and we're worse, not better. Something fundamentally rotten at the core of our team.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

What scares (and confuses me) more is how we've gone from the No 1 franchise in the NFL to a team who are scared to play someone in case they get hurt. Yes, we all expected a drop off but this has been more than a "drop off"....and don't get me started on rebuilds. We've been rebuilding since before Covid and we're worse, not better. Something fundamentally rotten at the core of our team.

You are confused because the Pats management is confused and has no idea what they are doing. You look at the situation and try to make sense of it, but there is no sense.

Wolf said Okorafor would start at LT. Wolf told us that Wallace could start at LT. Wolf told us the OL would be OK. Wolf and the coaches signed Brissett as our bridge QB. The is no sense to these decisions so it is confusing to try to understand the Pats decision making planning/process.

 

[mike_usagisan]

What scares (and confuses me) more is how we've gone from the No 1 franchise in the NFL to a team who are scared to play someone in case they get hurt. Yes, we all expected a drop off but this has been more than a "drop off"....and don't get me started on rebuilds. We've been rebuilding since before Covid and we're worse, not better. Something fundamentally rotten at the core of our team.

Do you believe they're not playing Maye because he can't be hurt or because they want to make sure he's ready when he gets in there? If it's the hurt thing, send him in. Our line is terrible and only getting worse with injuries. There's never going to be a time that he's going to be able to go in and not face serious risk. That's Patriots football right now.

If you think that it's because they want to get him prepared, then why is he Brissett's backup, ready to go in if Brissett is injured... which seems likely?

It doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[Thelonious]

You are confused because the Pats management is confused and has no idea what they are doing. You look at the situation and try to make sense of it, but there is no sense.

Wolf said Okorafor would start at LT. Wolf told us that Wallace could start at LT. Wolf told us the OL would be OK. Wolf and the coaches signed Brissett as our bridge QB. The is no sense to these decisions so it is confusing to try to understand the Pats decision making planning/process.

Brisset is what he is and what we thought him to be. He would have sufficed as a bridge under the approach adopted. The problem is that with the o-line and the receivers as weak as they are, there really isn't even a complete offensive team there to be handed off to the new guy. I suspect Maye is ready to play, but there's sort of no team there for him to play on. He's ready, but the team isn't.

So the impasse is neither QB's fault. Brisset is doing what he can - pretty courageously - but he can't make it work. I'm not sure any qb could. The jury is still out on Mayo. I wish we had hired an experienced HC of demonstrated competence, but we did not. Ownership has chosen Thunder's beloved travel companion instead. Why? I have no idea. But at this point Mayo deserves a shot at showing what he can do. It is too late for an alternative this year. The jury is out, but early signs are not promising. The jury is in, in my mind, regarding Eliot Wolf. His mismanagement of the roster is such that I would move on from him asap. There is nothing to be gained by waiting. I am willing to wait on AVP, but I would suggest he rent rather than buy: the development of the offense, even given the quality of the roster, has been far too slow.

In retrospect, we should have kept the Zapster or have acquired some other serviceable fill-in, in case Brissett gets injured or just collapses completely and the offense declines so much further that starting Maye would be obviously foolish. It's that bad. Again, we don't really even have an offensive team at this point, just a bunch of guys doing what they can, which ain't much, becuase they are what they are. They are what Wolf has chosen.