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Andy Reid has always been a solid coach actually. He was really underrated in Philly. He turned around a team that went 5-11 the previous year to 11-5 in his first year, and then went on to just have two losing seasons with them in the next 12 years without a HOF quarterback.
Agreed but the comment was that even good (solid) coaches have bad years.

Remember, Reid was fired by the Eagles after a 4-12 season in 2012.
 
The Mayo naysayers sound like they have been listening to the nontroversies expounded on sports talk radio.
Compare to Mike McDaniels both were about the same age when hired, McDaniels worked his way up the coaching tree while Mayo was a player who became a coach under BB...
Mayo deserves a chance, difficult to assess how he will after about 25 practices and 3 preseason games.
 
Media and fans wanted Mayo gone, but have backtracked the moment he was hired as HC to not look racist.
Has nothing to do with race. However I see your point. Has everything to do with having a succession clause in a contract.

Fans will never be happy the same fans wanted Bill gone.
 
4 straight years with a winning record, one conference championship game, 2 division titles and 3 playoff appearances in 7 years as HC. He did this without a QB. I’m not a fan of Vrabel, but he did a fairly good job in Tennessee. As we know, it’s a nightmare for any coach that doesn’t have a competent QB. In fact, not having a quarterback is like going into a gunfight with knives.
Derek Henry is why he was able to have success everything thrived off the Titans run game and a tough defense.

Vrabel is a dam good coach. How he wore thin with the Titans brass. I believe he could still be a NFL coach at worst a DC. But the fact he's not should be telling.
 
Nobody here actually knows anything about Mayo.

Its possible that he would have been the NE DC if BB were not the HC. Mayo wasnt going take Stevie Belichicks job. I expect Mayo to make mistakes as NE HC and for him to learn from the experience.
Agree. Why I believe the organization hired mayo: Bill absolutely loved him as a player brady called him mini Bill.

Was a great player, locker room leader, long time captain. Former player who under this current generation of players can connect better. Multiple patriots players have expressed this.

The process was accelerated by 4-13. Mayo Inherited a team with the 3rd overall pick to began his HC career.
 
Vrabel should be head coach BUT
Its not knee jerk hire.
Kraft said 2 years ago that Mayo could be next head coach.

Nothing can be done about it and now he deserves a fair chance of at least 2 years.

I would say 3 years, because he inherited one of the worst team’s in football, but that’s a pretty fair assessment.
 
Due to his his 0-0 record with one of the worst NFL rosters, he deserves to be fired now. Right now.
I don't get how folks call themselves fans but root for us to downfall. No matter who succeeded Bill the team was going to need to be rebuilt. Having a more experienced coach makes no difference on the team having to be rebuilt. Now I see posters attacking the defense. I'll bet you Josh Allen would love to have the Patriots defense.
 
I don't get how folks call themselves fans but root for us to downfall. No matter who succeeded Bill the team was going to need to be rebuilt. Having a more experienced coach makes no difference on the team having to be rebuilt. Now I see posters attacking the defense. I'll bet you Josh Allen would love to have the Patriots defense.
The whining is deafening.
 
Andy Reid has always been a solid coach actually. He was really underrated in Philly. He turned around a team that went 5-11 the previous year to 11-5 in his first year, and then went on to just have two losing seasons with them in the next 12 years without a HOF quarterback.
Reid was a horrific choker in the post season.

Dont you recall their Super Bowl where the Eagles were losing with time running out in the 4th quarter and Reid's offense was huddling up and taking their sweet time? Reid just stood there watching and waiting like he was in the stands. BB had to ask people on the NE sideline if the game clock was wrong. Then there was the post season game where the Eagles had the other team pinned down at 3rd and a mile. Stop the opponent here and the Eagles cruise to the W. The other team converts and wins the damn game. The agony of losing snatched from the jaws of victory. Reid was notorious for being unprepared, wasting timeouts and lousy game management. So focused on his Dennys menu that the game was drifting into the ditch.

It wasnt much better in KC either. The choking and incompetence continued. VS Indy in the 2013 WC game, KC had the Colts whooped at 38 - 10 in the 3rd quarter. If Reid had just ran the ball chewing up clock he wins to move on. But nooooo. Reid kept throwing and giving the ball back to Luck who came back and beat KC. Mahomes saved Reid from himself. Still, Reid was a hard nut to crack ,in the 2018 AFCC Dee Ford lined up in the neutral zone within 2 minutes of the half. Chiefs penalty and Reid cried that the Refs should have just warned him of the infraction in lieu of a penalty. Except the NFL rule book explicitly states that is a penalty every day of the week.

More often than not, the play Reid called blows up and Mahomes improvises sand lot style for the positive outcome. Reid looks like a genius when he had no clue what just happened. Its almost as if Reid is a basketball HC yelling at his team while they ignore him up and down the court. Mahomes has even begun passing the ball behind his back like the Harlem Globetrotters. Who knew?
 
Mayo's performance to date has been amateurish, verging on incompetent. The nice-guy shtick is wearing thin, and the fact that he is a nice guy ought to have been seen as irrelevant from the start, frankly. He is a people-pleaser, and Robert was obviously successfully pleased, but this has nothing to do with Jarrod's qualifications for the job. An objective look at Mayo's resume does not suggest at all that he is qualified for the position in which he finds himself, and, though it is early - and that is important - his performance to date suggests the the Krafts ought to have attended more closely to the issues with his resume than to his pleasing manner.

It is certainly too early for any definitive judgment, but I am frankly not at all confident this experiment will work out. It may be that he will find his footing once the games begin, but as I have seen no evidence to date which would support this hope, I am skeptical. If I had to make a judgment at this point -something I would resist - I would judge that he is simply not up to the job.
 
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Agree. Why I believe the organization hired mayo: Bill absolutely loved him as a player brady called him mini Bill.

Was a great player, locker room leader, long time captain. Former player who under this current generation of players can connect better. Multiple patriots players have expressed this.

The process was accelerated by 4-13. Mayo Inherited a team with the 3rd overall pick to began his HC career.
Id like to win this season, but I wont be sad if the Pats dont.

The only way to get young and good is via the draft. A couple 3 good drafts could set this team up for the future.
 
Mayo's performance to date has been amateurish, verging on incompetent. The nice-guy shtick is wearing thin, and the fact that he is a nice guy ought to have been seen as irrelevant from the start, frankly. He is a people-pleaser, and Robert was obviously successfully pleased, but this has nothing to do with Jarrod's qualifications for the job. An objective look at Mayo's resume does not suggest at all that he is qualified for the position in which he finds himself, and, though it is early - and that is important - his performance to date suggests the the Krafts ought to have attended more closely to the issues with his resume than to his pleasing manner.

It is certainly to early for any definitive judgment, but I am frankly not at all confident this experiment will work out. It may be that he will find his footing once the games begin, but as I have seen no evidence to date which would support this hope, I am skeptical. If I had to make a judgment at this point -something I would resist - I would judge that he is simply not up to the job.
Sunday and beyond is all that matters. Judge him from then on.
 
I would say 3 years, because he inherited one of the worst team’s in football, but that’s a pretty fair assessment.
Three years is FAR too long. A year is entirely sufficient to show whether he is or is not the man for the job. Given the poor condition of the team, his success is not to be determined by the team's record but by an evaluation as to whether he does or does not contribute - largely by developing and evaluating players, but also by at least competent game-day management - to the development of the team. While it is certainly early at this point, I have seen nothing so far to suggest that he will meet this standard.
 
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