PostGame Thread OFFICIAL Postgame Thread: Patriots lose 20-10 to the Commanders

[One-If-By-Sea]

If Lowe can play the line week 1 will be depending on Sow:

Lowe - Sow - Andrews - Onwenu - Okorafor

Or

Lowe - Robinson/Leverett - Andrews - Onwenu- Okorafor

I bet Jackson replaces Sow like last night.

 

[pats99]

When

No they don't.


All the OL penalties and mental errors are due to bad coaching. I don't ever remember seeing a display like that under any former Pats' coach. That was abysmal against 2 and 3 teamers. Guys running into each other, the QBs shoe off, constant pressure against backups. A lack of talent (GM problem) and a lack of execution (coaching problem).

I didn't think it would be this bad.

". I don't ever remember seeing a display like that under any former Pats' coach".
Probably because we had Dante for some thirty something years as o-line coach.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Lardassian Lowe who has never had a good NFL game is now the savior. What does everyone think? This is the worst Patriot OL since __________?

Agreed. Everyone posts about getting Lowe back at LT like it is a good thing. Okorafor was signed to be the LT. Wallace was drafted to be the LT - our GM told us that on draft night. Now we are hoping Lowe will start. This is a really bad situation.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Agreed. Everyone posts about getting Lowe back at LT like it is a good thing. Okorafor was signed to be the LT. Wallace was drafted to be the LT - our GM told us that on draft night. Now we are hoping Lowe will start. This is a really bad situation.

Yes, but a lot of people read through the BS and knew this was going to be a bad year for the line and help would have to come next offseason.

Anyone hoping for a quick rebound/rebuild was probably fooling themselves (myself included).

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Yes, but a lot of people read through the BS and knew this was going to be a bad year for the line and help would have to come next offseason.

Anyone hoping for a quick rebound/rebuild was probably fooling themselves (myself included).

Agreed. The GM told us it was OK. Who believed him?

I knew it was going to be a bad year. You are right. Did you expect it to be this bad?

 

[Thunderhead]

We all knew the OL was going to be very bad, but it's even worse than we thought. Legit bad enough that we might as well forfeit games if the league allows it.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Agreed. The GM told us it was OK. Who believed him?

I knew it was going to be a bad year. You are right. Did you expect it to be this bad?

I think we need to expect the GM to lie to us. That kind of goes with the job and why BB just wouldn't comment on a lot of it. If Wolf manages to get this team righted in a year or two, I'm not going to care that he lied. If he doesn't, the lying is going to be far down on the list of reasons I'll want him fired.

I did expect the line to be terrible, but mostly just the tackles. I didn't know back-up center was going to be the thing that makes my head explode.

 

[captain stone]

I think the biggest disappointment is how completely awful Levrett is. I thought he would be solid depth.

I didn’t. Dude’s trash, just like All of Wolfie’s off-season OL signings.

All that ****ing salary-cap space; and yet…

 

[turkeyneck]

Don't want to freak out but I'm having flashbacks of Plunkett's rookie contract being wasted as he ran for his life. It did lead to looting SF in a trade, so that's good.

 

[captain stone]

One of which seems to be 'we' are playing 3 fewer games than the rest of the league. How does that happen?

Flash-back to the 1977 Pats…?

 

[sb1]

2nd best? Sounds like our HC believes Jacoby > Maye.

Maye is sitting.

Unless he isn’t. Lol come on man

 

[PatsFan2]

Going on a road trip for a few days so not sure when can watch all 22 but watched the replay today and YES, the Line has hope. The refs could have called that lining up penalty all 1st quarter on every pass play on BOTH teams, they decided onm the final pre-season game, to put league on notice you can't lineup too far from the line. However, they will not be enforcing it at that level in the regular season, this was a statement by the league, I wouldn't let it affect the tape review.

My reviews of All-22 Robinson in weeks 1 and 2. I specifically said he needed a season to learn the NFL blocking schemes, he looked lost in the game 1, he showed as a run blocker in game 2, I said he was not ready to start. Well, he proved it, he can be a good starting guard, late in the year or next year, he needs time

The line held up very well on most pass protections, the line mostly blocked well for running plays. If you put the best starting 5 out there, it will all come down to the LT.

Here were the plays that were bad by O line, not counting the lineup penalty.
-Jacoby play was a screen, the rusher was too far outside for the pulling lineman to chip, the RB was supposed to fake a screen that way, should have adjusted, really on Jacoby, he needed to adjust protection as you could see before the play the RB was going to have to block that guy but Jacoby did not alert him, Jacoby also missed an easy throw earlier, he continues his career as a bad NFL starting QB, but we knew that the day he signed.
-Robinson beat on Maye first incompletion
-Robinson beat on run play
-False start Robinson

So far 4 bad plays, 1 on Jacoby, 3 on Robinson.

-Sow and Chuks got beat but Maye released quickly for completion, would Jacoby? A case where Maye playing saved the line, Sow held his guy longer than Chuks, this is where the QB is so important, he had time, not a lot, made the play.

-Leverett Driven back
-Sow was driven back on TT incompletion, Maye stepped up as outside rushers went around him but did not need to step up as much, partly on Maye, partly on Sow
-Robinson pushed into Maye
-Robinson beat run play and held
-Jordan hold bad call by refs.

So 10 bad plays by O-line, the rest were solid

5 on Robinson
1 Bad ref call
1 on Jacoby
1 on Chuks, with little help from Sow
1 on Sow with a little help from Maye
1 on Leverett driven back-happened again later but did not effect play

Sidy Sow needs to start over Robinson. Hopefully he's healthy.

You only had 2 plays by the prospective starters on the line that were bad.
The rest were on backup lineman and the refs.

Left Tackle is the question mark as well as depth. hey can get a starting 4 that will be fine, as long as someone plays LT and nobody gets hurt they can be solid, how hard can that be LOL.

Wallace looked very good at RT but playing against the players to be cut nt sure how much it means but he's a potential starter at either tackle spot. They have something in Wallace where he can contribute this year, Robinson needs time.

Not all doom and gloom upon tape review, lots of good blocking but 1 weak link can kill you.

I feel like C Wallace will be the eventual Starter at LT he's our only hope at the Position.

 

[PatsFan2]

Unless he isn’t. Lol come on man

Real surprised there bwoy I would have never guessed it.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I feel like C Wallace will be the eventual Starter at LT he's our only hope at the Position.

I believe our true anchor at LT isn't on the team yet.

 

[PatsFan2]

My hope all along Biscuit stinks.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

My hope all along Biscuit stinks.

You can’t make this sh*t up.

Every day he is flip flopping

 

[Triumph]

I'm actually glad they are enforcing the rules. Tackles have been lining up in the backfield for years now! It's pretty easy to stay on the line. Your helmet must cross the center's beltline. Hopefully they will flag Lane Johnson for a false start on every single snap!

The fact that the Pats were habitually breaking this rule, goes to coaching! It's not like the NFL didn't tell them this was coming.

Why didnt they call the RT too?

He was back just as far.

 

[PatsFan2]

I believe our true anchor at LT isn't on the team yet.

Just remember even if you get em in the Top 10 like QB's they are not always hits. Sometimes you can develop a Guy a LT doesn't have to be all world just solid at the position.

 

[Brotherblues]

I think a lot of it is the oline musical chairs. You can't expect someone to be competent at a position if more than half his practice snaps are at other positions. Flexibility and trying to find the right combo is one thing, what we saw all through camp was bordering on madness. Coming out of the last preseason game with 4 oline positions that can be shuffled any which way is not normal.

At least now they'll be sticking to something that the big guys can settle into.

 

[Triumph]

My hope all along Biscuit stinks.

What about when Maye took off and ran on 3rd and long?

Yeah its vs backups, but nevertheless it was a good decision made in micro seconds.