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This is well deserved. Contributors to this:

1. BB mismanaging (butchering) the roster for at least the past 4 years with no post Brady strategic plan
2. Wolfe drafting Maye, knowing he won't be ready for another year at least
3. Wolfe going bargain bin hunting for OL and not adequately addressing the most important position for developing a sound offense
4. Not upgrading or adding to the RB position
5. Inability to trade for, draft or sign a dynamic WR
6. Not upgrading the TE position
7. Not aggressively pursing a "name" head coach and OC that might help to attract top tier talent.

There were opportunities

1. Sign a starting QB1 better than Brisset (e.g. Garropolo)
2. Accept the Vikings trade (11 and 23 for 3), in which case they could have taken an OL and a WR or QB
3. Be more aggressive in FA market;
sign Jimmy Garropolo as QB1
sign Gerald Everett as TE,
sign Tyron Smith as LT,
sign Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel or Gabe Davis at WR
sign Austin Ekeler, Josh Jacobs or D'Andre Swift as RB
4. Draft Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3 and get someone who can help immediately

My point is that the Patriots chose to be passive and accept that they would suck this year and play the long game.
They could have come out swinging and made an attempt to be competitive this year (obviously not a SB contender).

As it is it's obvious that the front office has accepted being a non competitive team this year with an eye on the future. It worked for GB (Wolfe model) but there have been teams that this approach resulted in being perennial loser until the team won the QB lottery (Cinncinatti- pre Burrows, Cleveland pre Watson, Jets pre Rogers, Buffalo pre Allen for example)

If Maye does not pan out as a star QB by 2025 or 2026, this team will obviously be stuck in purgatory (yes I am captain obvious). Unfortunately the Patriots probably chose the least NFL ready QB of all QB';s drafted in first round.
 
More like Durm and Strang Cunningham.
 
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Didn’t read, is it #1 in *****iest fan forum?
 

These were their FA QB options. I don't see anyone here that I'd call a "QB1" right now that would make them competitive today.
Jimmy can't stay on the field and he's also about to serve a PED suspension.
 

This is well deserved. Contributors to this:

1. BB mismanaging (butchering) the roster for at least the past 4 years with no post Brady strategic plan
2. Wolfe drafting Maye, knowing he won't be ready for another year at least
3. Wolfe going bargain bin hunting for OL and not adequately addressing the most important position for developing a sound offense
4. Not upgrading or adding to the RB position
5. Inability to trade for, draft or sign a dynamic WR
6. Not upgrading the TE position
7. Not aggressively pursing a "name" head coach and OC that might help to attract top tier talent.

There were opportunities

1. Sign a starting QB1 better than Brisset (e.g. Garropolo)
2. Accept the Vikings trade (11 and 23 for 3), in which case they could have taken an OL and a WR or QB
3. Be more aggressive in FA market;
sign Jimmy Garropolo as QB1
sign Gerald Everett as TE,
sign Tyron Smith as LT,
sign Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel or Gabe Davis at WR
sign Austin Ekeler, Josh Jacobs or D'Andre Swift as RB
4. Draft Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3 and get someone who can help immediately

My point is that the Patriots chose to be passive and accept that they would suck this year and play the long game.
They could have come out swinging and made an attempt to be competitive this year (obviously not a SB contender).

As it is it's obvious that the front office has accepted being a non competitive team this year with an eye on the future. It worked for GB (Wolfe model) but there have been teams that this approach resulted in being perennial loser until the team won the QB lottery (Cinncinatti- pre Burrows, Cleveland pre Watson, Jets pre Rogers, Buffalo pre Allen for example)

If Maye does not pan out as a star QB by 2025 or 2026, this team will obviously be stuck in purgatory (yes I am captain obvious). Unfortunately the Patriots probably chose the least NFL ready QB of all QB';s drafted in first round.

 
Saw the article this AM. Scrolled to the end immediately to find our beloved team in 32nd place. Hope this can motivate the offense to do better.
 


Seriously. Who freakin' cares what any of these asshats write. They've played zero eff'n games. Zero.

 
Carolina is the worst team in the NFL, not sure how any list makers can't see that.

Lists are for morons anyhow.
 
"I am all in with signing Jimmy Garoppolo" said 2021. Jimmy G was benched for a nothing back up rookie QB last year.

And Tyrone Smith only wanted to go to a team that had a shot to make the playoffs and potentially win the Super Bowl. He was never going to sign here.

I will kill the Pats for passing on elite WRS like Gabe Davis and Curtis Samuel. I hear Miami were seriously thinking of trading Hill because he wants a new deal and signing one of them to upgrade their receiving corp.

And Gerald Everett was a mediocre TE with Justin Herbert throwing to him. You gotta think that with an elite QB like Jimmy G throwing to him, he would have at least 1100 yards and 14 TDs.

Sorry to be snarky, but I just don't get why people want us to be the Pittsburgh Steelers and be one of those teams consistently be over .500 but not by much and be a borderline playoff team every year.

I wouldn't have been upset if the Pats traded out of the #3 pick. If they didn't think Maye was a franchise QB and a potential elite QB, then I welcomed them trading down. But it would have had to be more than picks 11 and 23 to trade. It would have had to be at least three #1s in value.
 
Lets flip this list. Here are the teams that the Pats defense will face. According to this ranking they will face the following ranked offenses.

#2 Texans
#3 Niners
#5 Phins (x2)
#6 Bengals
#9 Bills (x2)
Tier 2
#11 Rams
#13 Bears
#14 Jags
#15 Seahags
#16 Jete (x2)
Tier 3
#17 Phoenix
#18 Colts
#19 Chargers
#29 Titans
 
3. Wolfe going bargain bin hunting for OL and not adequately addressing the most important position for developing a sound offense
Re-signing Owenu was not bargain bin. Overpaid, but they paid big bucks to at least one position along the OL.
4. Not upgrading or adding to the RB position
sign Austin Ekeler, Josh Jacobs or D'Andre Swift as RB
I like Ekeler and Jacobs, but they want to be starters. They weren't going to go to NE.
5. Inability to trade for, draft or sign a dynamic WR
They weren't aggressive enough with Ridley. Aiyuk flat out doesn't want to come to NE.
6. Not upgrading the TE position
Henry is fine.
7. Not aggressively pursing a "name" head coach and OC that might help to attract top tier talent.
This I agree, but Mayo most likely had his contract reworked to be named the successor to Bill.
1. Sign a starting QB1 better than Brisset (e.g. Garropolo)
Agree. Brissett was a terrible signing.
sign Jimmy Garropolo as QB1
Absolutely not.
sign Tyron Smith as LT,
Agree.
sign Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel or Gabe Davis at WR
Absolutely not to any of those 3.
 
Everyone always says “oh they should have brought so and so here”…well they tried that…2 dudes didn’t want to come here as far as we know and for everyone we know about I’m sure there’s 5 more we dont know about…it takes 2 to trade…
 
How long could Aladdin be expected to last behind the OL that is going to get Maye killed?
 
Drafting Maye at 3 made no sense, they should have taken the Giants trade, or went with Harrison Jr or Alt at 3. A stud LT or elite WR. "Hoping a Maye can develop" is not what you look for in the third pick in the draft. Once Maye turns out to be Trubisky, then what?
 
Drafting Maye at 3 made no sense, they should have taken the Giants trade, or went with Harrison Jr or Alt at 3. A stud LT or elite WR. "Hoping a Maye can develop" is not what you look for in the third pick in the draft. Once Maye turns out to be Trubisky, then what?
Nonsense. You don’t pass on a guy you believe will be a top 10 QB just because he needs a year to develop. Maye has elite physical tools beyond what any other remaining QB in the class had, or any other QB coming out next year.
 

This is well deserved. Contributors to this:

1. BB mismanaging (butchering) the roster for at least the past 4 years with no post Brady strategic plan
2. Wolfe drafting Maye, knowing he won't be ready for another year at least
3. Wolfe going bargain bin hunting for OL and not adequately addressing the most important position for developing a sound offense
4. Not upgrading or adding to the RB position
5. Inability to trade for, draft or sign a dynamic WR
6. Not upgrading the TE position
7. Not aggressively pursing a "name" head coach and OC that might help to attract top tier talent.

There were opportunities

1. Sign a starting QB1 better than Brisset (e.g. Garropolo)
2. Accept the Vikings trade (11 and 23 for 3), in which case they could have taken an OL and a WR or QB
3. Be more aggressive in FA market;
sign Jimmy Garropolo as QB1
sign Gerald Everett as TE,
sign Tyron Smith as LT,
sign Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel or Gabe Davis at WR
sign Austin Ekeler, Josh Jacobs or D'Andre Swift as RB
4. Draft Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3 and get someone who can help immediately

My point is that the Patriots chose to be passive and accept that they would suck this year and play the long game.
They could have come out swinging and made an attempt to be competitive this year (obviously not a SB contender).

As it is it's obvious that the front office has accepted being a non competitive team this year with an eye on the future. It worked for GB (Wolfe model) but there have been teams that this approach resulted in being perennial loser until the team won the QB lottery (Cinncinatti- pre Burrows, Cleveland pre Watson, Jets pre Rogers, Buffalo pre Allen for example)

If Maye does not pan out as a star QB by 2025 or 2026, this team will obviously be stuck in purgatory (yes I am captain obvious). Unfortunately the Patriots probably chose the least NFL ready QB of all QB';s drafted in first round.

Damn Sam, they should have gone with your plan, they could have gone 7-9 with only 3 or 4 more losing seasons in front of them. What were they thinking? Eliott Wolf should give some thought to bringing you in for a motivational speech or two, I’m sure only 10-12 players will kill themselves afterward. But hell, what was the point of them living anyways. In fact what the point of any of us living, especially after that offseason. Oh well, guess I’ll go make a nice warm cup of bleach and get a good sleep. Cheers!
 

This is well deserved. Contributors to this:

1. BB mismanaging (butchering) the roster for at least the past 4 years with no post Brady strategic plan
2. Wolfe drafting Maye, knowing he won't be ready for another year at least
3. Wolfe going bargain bin hunting for OL and not adequately addressing the most important position for developing a sound offense
4. Not upgrading or adding to the RB position
5. Inability to trade for, draft or sign a dynamic WR
6. Not upgrading the TE position
7. Not aggressively pursing a "name" head coach and OC that might help to attract top tier talent.

There were opportunities

1. Sign a starting QB1 better than Brisset (e.g. Garropolo)
2. Accept the Vikings trade (11 and 23 for 3), in which case they could have taken an OL and a WR or QB
3. Be more aggressive in FA market;
sign Jimmy Garropolo as QB1
sign Gerald Everett as TE,
sign Tyron Smith as LT,
sign Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel or Gabe Davis at WR
sign Austin Ekeler, Josh Jacobs or D'Andre Swift as RB
4. Draft Marvin Harrison Jr. at #3 and get someone who can help immediately

My point is that the Patriots chose to be passive and accept that they would suck this year and play the long game.
They could have come out swinging and made an attempt to be competitive this year (obviously not a SB contender).

As it is it's obvious that the front office has accepted being a non competitive team this year with an eye on the future. It worked for GB (Wolfe model) but there have been teams that this approach resulted in being perennial loser until the team won the QB lottery (Cinncinatti- pre Burrows, Cleveland pre Watson, Jets pre Rogers, Buffalo pre Allen for example)

If Maye does not pan out as a star QB by 2025 or 2026, this team will obviously be stuck in purgatory (yes I am captain obvious). Unfortunately the Patriots probably chose the least NFL ready QB of all QB';s drafted in first round.


Hey Sam, if you get the time between your extended bouts of misery, could you please post more of your uplifting conversations with yourself. They bring so much cheer to us all. Thanks in advance.
 
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