Jaguar Mac Jones is about to embarrass the genius BB and his all star coaching staff [mod edit: he didn’t]

[Huckleberry1]

Lol now this is a wild thread.

I’m working on my thread about how Mayo and Wolf ****ed over Cam Newton right now. It should be ready for publication later today. Suffice to say that they would be a Super Bowl contender right now if Mayo and Wolf hadn’t driven Cam out of town a few years ago. In short it was Mayo’s insistence that Newton play both middle linebacker and QB that made Cam retire.

 

[sb1]

And the reports out of the locker room were that he was so toxic that Zappe couldn’t even watch film in the QB room. However I put some of that on Zappe, because if that report was true then Zappe should have confronted him and told him to **** off and stayed put to watch the film.

I haven’t seen any report that said Jones was the one that created the toxic QB room. If the reports are true about Zappe running his mouth about being a starter then it wouldn’t surprise me if he was a cause of a lot of that toxicity more than Jones.

 

[Huckleberry1]

We gotta start using it more. lol

Although they can be the most entertaining threads.

 

[sb1]

Although they can be the most entertaining threads.

I was looking for that forum the other day for the comedy. Guess it’s hidden for now.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Patriots QB room reportedly got 'toxic' with Mac Jones

There has been some talk about the New England Patriots potentially giving Mac Jones one more shot to be their starting quarterback in 2024, but it sounds

larrybrownsports.com

Here you go.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I wish there was a sub forum for the Greatest Threads of All Time, there have been some truly great ones.

“ I can’t Stand it.” As well as Deus thread claiming that the 20014 roster was the worst in football are just a couple of memorable ones.

 

[Pape]

Certainly BB gave away Mac for too little. People may start waking up to the realization that it was the poor offensive coaching and lack of a supporting cast, which the 2024 draft went a long way to alleviate (except at LT), which caused the image of Mac being a bad QB. He’s not.

Statistically he’s the equal to the QB1 in Jacksonville.

Regardless of coaching, talent - His game was a showcase of bad play and even worse decision making. He did himself no favors.

As for getting too little for him, when you are getting ready to cut bait and you catch a fish, you don't complain.

 

[Love The Drake]

Mac always had a great arm. He was exceptionally accurate and could light up the scoreboard when he playing with an excellent supporting cast. If you don't believe me. watch his tape at 'Bama and his long bombs to Waddle....and that was the problem--he had no Waddle types to throw to and last year he was running for his life. The problem with Jones was he that he could not deal adverse conditions or run around to avoid pressure.

BB is the greatest coach that the Patriots ever had or will have. The problem was the personnel moves, whether by him or ownership and it is starting to look like it was ownership (and BB's blind spot for WRs).

he didn’t have a great arm he could throw ducks to WRs who were way more talented than the defensive backs covering them,

We saw in the NFL that even when he had time WRs had to wait for or come back to Mac’s balls.

Of course he playing well, he’s home, away from the pressure of being a franchise QB and had an offensive minded head coach,

You can win with Mac, just not because of him.

I hope Mac is happy and plays well, yes Bill the HC botched it yes Bill the GM botched it yes Patricia the Oc and Judge the QB coach was nightmare fuel.
This kid does not have starting NFL QB talent he can hold a clipboard in Jacksonville and live a great life.
Him being here with a rookie QB is recipe for disaster which is going to be part of the reason Zappe will be on a new team in a few weeks.

 

[Ross12]

I haven’t seen any report that said Jones was the one that created the toxic QB room. If the reports are true about Zappe running his mouth about being a starter then it wouldn’t surprise me if he was a cause of a lot of that toxicity more than Jones.

I was thinking about this today actually. If Zappe was toxic wouldn’t we have heard even one peep from him this summer? Instead he’s been buried as the QB4 getting little to no reps and he’s been a model citizen.

Meanwhile in Jacksonville there’s stories about Mac saying stuff he shouldn’t be saying or “driving his coaches crazy”.

Makes me think most of the stuff we heard about toxicity was a Mac problem.

 

[sb1]

Patriots QB room reportedly got 'toxic' with Mac Jones

There has been some talk about the New England Patriots potentially giving Mac Jones one more shot to be their starting quarterback in 2024, but it sounds

larrybrownsports.com

Here you go.

Breer just said Jones lost support in the building and mentioned the toxic QB room but stopped short of saying Jones was the sole cause of it.

Either way he had to go for a lot of reasons.

 

[Pape]

We used to have a sub-forum called "the practice squad" for threads that began with an original post containing a dubious premise.

It has been years since I moved a thread there, but today may be the day.

We gotta start using it more. lol

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!!!

 

[Pape]

Breer just said Jones lost support in the building and mentioned the toxic QB room but stopped short of saying Jones was the sole cause of it.

Either way he had to go for a lot of reasons.

He didn't need to be the sole cause. Once that relationship goes sour, its time to move on.

 

[sb1]

Regardless of coaching, talent - His game was a showcase of bad play and even worse decision making. He did himself no favors.

As for getting too little for him, when you are getting ready to cut bait and you catch a fish, you don't complain.

I think a 6th was about right for a 1 year rental of a backup QB who his old team had to send packing.

 

[Ring 6]

Mac always had a great arm. He was exceptionally accurate and could light up the scoreboard when he playing with an excellent supporting cast. If you don't believe me. watch his tape at 'Bama and his long bombs to Waddle....and that was the problem--he had no Waddle types to throw to and last year he was running for his life. The problem with Jones was he that he could not deal adverse conditions or run around to avoid pressure.

BB is the greatest coach that the Patriots ever had or will have. The problem was the personnel moves, whether by him or ownership and it is starting to look like it was ownership (and BB's blind spot for WRs).

You can’t judge a qb by what happens when his first read gets wide open and ignore the fact that the reason he sucks is that he consistently does the wrong thing when his first read isn’t wide open.
It’s the primary reason college QBs in top programs who light it up in college fail in the nfl

 

[IcyPatriot]

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[FredFromDartmouth]

I was thinking about this today actually. If Zappe was toxic wouldn’t we have heard even one peep from him this summer? Instead he’s been buried as the QB4 getting little to no reps and he’s been a model citizen.

Yeah, interesting. Zappe could have been a problem in college; watch his tape and note how he never seems to get much congratulations after his (numerous) touchdown passes. His teammates did not seem enthused. Maybe I am reading too much into this based on his model behavior now.

 

[mosi's man]

Once again, there doesn't seem to be much nuance here and a lot of revisionist history. Sure Mac had to go; he was awful as described the last two years. In my estimation, as an athlete he had lost all confidence and this was a major reason why he declined so terribly. I think it's unrealistic to think that he would have been able to recover if he had remained in New England. So good bye. Having said that, for all of us who watched him play as a rookie, he was outstanding and that is as undeniable as the fact that he was horrible by the end. Statistically, he had one of the ten best rookies seasons of all time. He clearly tailed off by the end of the year, but check out the offensive cast at the skill positions and the offensive line supporting him. I hear all this nonsense regarding Brady's mistakes (when he made them) that he had no protection or no one to throw to. Go back and review Mac's receiver corps when he was a rookie as well as his offensive line; they were awful (Jacobi Meyers the number one, along with Agholor and Jonnu Smith) and despite a mediocre O-line (Wynn and Ted Karris on the right side), he was, for a rookie, outstanding. The first six games of the year he was getting killed yet still delivered the ball all over the field. That's just a fact. He had no problem throwing to the second level to a range of receivers and did an excellent job of reading the D and delivering the ball. If he recovers his confidence he can certainly be an NFL quarterback given a rookie season that got him into a Pro Bowl (as an alternate). We'll see if it happens and I would wager it would take a couple years holding a clipboard at a minimum but once an athlete loses his/her confidence of course they are done and Mac did so to an extreme degree. Was the coaching staff culpable for this, at least in large part? You bet. I don't get exited by a preseason game, but he was good for more than just this one game. He showed a lot of promise and then, for whatever reason, fell apart.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Yeah, interesting. Zappe could have been a problem in college; watch his tape and note how he never seems to get much congratulations after his (numerous) touchdown passes. His teammates did not seem enthused. Maybe I am reading too much into this based on his model behavior now.

Smh. Maybe we should call those coaches at Western Kentucky and ask them how many players attended Zappe’s Bday Party.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I don’t think Mac is a quality starter in the NFL. BB’s poor roster and especially coaching decisions made him look worse than he is though. I think both those things can be true.