OT: Jonnu Smith hates Buffalo (Edit: BB talk)

[Wozzy]

When Bill drafts a good player he gets all the credit
When he doesn't... it's someone else's fault.

#DefendTheWall

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

 

[sb1]

BB said Maye had the Worse Footwork of all the QB's. Glad we didn't have the pleasure of seeing the Special Teamer he was going to select.

Team Bill thinks he developed Brady. Lol. If he did then why couldn't he develop anyone else? Can't figure that one out...

 

[PatsFan2]

Team Bill thinks he developed Brady. Lol. If he did then why couldn't he develop anyone else? Can't figure that one out...

No wonder the last 20 years was his mantra even after Brady left but Kraft figured it out.

 

[sb1]

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

You didn't show me a source. You showed me a bunch of speculation without proof. Where's the proof that Bill did not want Mac Jones? A quote from Bill himself would be a good start...

I'll save you the time looking. There is no source. Bill wanted Jones, the advice he got aligned with that so he drafted him and he owns it. Full stop.

#1 Run defense that lost 4 games because they couldn't stop the run. Totally normal for a #1 run defense. Lol

 

[Wozzy]

You didn't show me a source. You showed me a bunch of speculation without proof. Where's the proof that Bill did not want Mac Jones? A quote from Bill himself would be a good start...

I'll save you the time looking. There is no source. Bill wanted Jones, the advice he got aligned with that so he drafted him and he owns it. Full stop.

#1 Run defense that lost 4 games because they couldn't stop the run. Totally normal for a #1 run defense. Lol

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

 

[sb1]

No wonder the last 20 years was his mantra even after Brady left but Kraft figured it out.

Bill should have been fired at the end of the 2022 season. The stupidity that was Joe Judge and Matt Patricia offensive coordinator shouldn't have been rewarded with another year. Better late than never I guess.

 

[sb1]

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

Copy and paste because you agree with me. Alright then.

 

[Wozzy]

Copy and paste because you agree with me. Alright then.

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

 

[sb1]

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

#DefendTheWall

 

[Wozzy]

#DefendTheWall

"Show me a source" - SB1

"Here's 4 with links" - Wozzy

"That don't mean nothing" - SB1

Laughable... this is like the time you told us the defense that allowed the 4th fewest rushing yards and was ranked #1 in the entire NFL in yards per attempt was bad at run defense. Your posts are biased bullsht.

 

[PatsFan2]

Bill should have been fired at the end of the 2022 season. The stupidity that was Joe Judge and Matt Patricia offensive coordinator shouldn't have been rewarded with another year. Better late than never I guess.

Both years cost Kraft 40Mill but BB made sure his assistants were making less than Market Basket grocery baggers what a guy.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill should have been fired at the end of the 2022 season. The stupidity that was Joe Judge and Matt Patricia offensive coordinator shouldn't have been rewarded with another year. Better late than never I guess.

There are only certain times when an Owner should meddle and that was one of them. As smart as Bill is, it will always be a mystery why he did that.

 

[sb1]

So...I guess we have to blame the cOLLaBorATIon for forcing Bill to pick Cole Strange 2-3 rounds too soon?

 

[sb1]

I love the logic that Bill never wanted to pick McCorkle Jones but was forced to do so by the cOLLaBoRaTIOn... the very same Jones who just so happened to be his buddy Saban's QB. What a crazy coincidence!

Or that Bill wanted Davis F'n Mills to be his Brady replacement in his most consequential and most watched draft pick since Brady left.

Right.

 

[upstater1]

N'Keal Harry Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

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Harry's ability to body-up opponents and win with ball skills is undeniable, but his inability to find a threatening top gear or shake loose from tight man coverage must be accounted for within his new employer's scheme.

That's a problem and it's not a minor one.

Breer: Where most teams had draft meetings with their scouts in February and April, the Patriots would have theirs with scouts in December and February. And at that early point, it’s tough to set the board, with two and a half months of information still to come. So from there on, the scouts would just be gatherers, which frustrated plenty of them, and played into the exodus in the scouting department the last few years. It also, as some saw it, led to misses like N’Keal Harry in 2019. Harry killed his 30 visit that spring and had a college coach, Todd Graham, who was close to Belichick. In that end, without more input from scouts who preferred Deebo Samuel and A.J. Brown, the coach wound up leaning on his own experience with Harry, rather than the red flags his scouts planted, and lost a golden opportunity to fill a hole on his roster.

That was my point. Bad pick not just because of the glaring red flag - he couldn't separate - but because he didn't listen to his scouts.

Mac Jones was not a bad pick when it was made. It just didn't work out here for him. Looking back I would have liked to see them try to move up for Parsons and then move back into the first or high second round if they could for Jones if he was still there.

This is 20/20 hindsight written years after the fact.

I'm talking about where he was projected that year, and that was high. I'm talking about the vast majority of scouts.

Breer can say anything he wants 5 years later but there's no credibility there.

 

[IcyPatriot]

What happened to Jonnu Smith hating Buffalo?

 

[upstater1]

I love the logic that Bill never wanted to pick McCorkle Jones but was forced to do so by the cOLLaBoRaTIOn... the very same Jones who just so happened to be his buddy Saban's QB. What a crazy coincidence!

Or that Bill wanted Davis F'n Mills to be his Brady replacement in his most consequential and most watched draft pick since Brady left.

Right.

Not only was it reported that this was the case by Callahan, but it was corroborated by the video showing his attitude before the pick. You can be willfully blind all you want, it just reinforces your absurd hatred of the greatest coach in NFL history. I've seen you post ridiculous things about Belichick on here (like about 2015) and it's laughable.

 

[sb1]

Not only was it reported that this was the case by Callahan, but it was corroborated by the video showing his attitude before the pick. You can be willfully blind all you want, it just reinforces your absurd hatred of the greatest coach in NFL history. I've seen you post ridiculous things about Belichick on here (like about 2015) and it's laughable.

BB promised he would be more collaborative and all the video showed was him keeping his word. There is no report anywhere that said Bill was stripped of his final say over football operations- because he wasn’t.

Every fan base criticizes their coach that’s not hate. Featuring Steven Jackson in a game and punting on a chance for HFA was dumb and cost them big time.

 

[sb1]

This is 20/20 hindsight written years after the fact.

I'm talking about where he was projected that year, and that was high. I'm talking about the vast majority of scouts.

Breer can say anything he wants 5 years later but there's no credibility there.

The consensus was he couldn’t separate. That’s a major problem. Bill’s scouts saw that and recommended he look somewhere else but Bill overruled them and picked Harry anyway.

 

[upstater1]

BB promised he would be more collaborative and all the video showed was him keeping his word. There is no report anywhere that said Bill was stripped of his final say over football operations- because he wasn’t.

Every fan base criticizes their coach that’s not hate. Featuring Steven Jackson in a game and punting on a chance for HFA was dumb and cost them big time.

Come on... you think that's a demonstration of collaboration? You cant be serious.

It's well established that you hate Belichick.

You're going back 9 years in a 20 year career to pick out a mistake he made in a game? Really? Pathetic.

Have you gone back to Brady's mistakes that were papered over by the rest of the team coming through when Brady couldn't?

I recall Brady once saying, "Sorry everyone, I really sucked tonight." I was in the stands when he said that. It was a huge win.