Remember Wolf isn't a GM, hes a talent scout

[reflexblue]

The talent that was already here last season is great if healthy, adding Jacoby was smart and something they should have done anyway last season, BB might still have a job. They added two WR's in the draft who are similar to young Juju, Osborn and Bourne, so the depth at WR is much better.

Finishing this offseason and draft without having a quality starting left tackle is terrible work by the GM and front office... total rookie move. They had three positions to fill, they filled one of them (QB) and added some WR's who are like the ones they already had. If this team is good in 2024 it will because of the talent returning from the previous regime, health and Maye potentially contributing.

Wolf said he didn't want to take Wallace where he did but was afraid if he traded down to far he'd lose the chance of drafting him. I think he got caught off guard be the mad rush to take OTs by other teams.Its sounds to me he had another OT in mind but that tackle was taken.

 

[Wozzy]

Wolf said he didn't want to take Wallace where he did but was afraid if he traded down to far he'd lose the chance of drafting him. I think he got caught off guard be the mad rush to take OTs by other teams.Its sounds to me he had another OT in mind but that tackle was taken.

I think Wolf can’t evaluate offensive linemen.

If he could he wouldn’t have signed Okorafor and paid someone else that money instead. If he could he would have known in round two there were only two legit left tackle starters left on the board.

He could have packaged the pick he used on Wallace and the one he wasted entirely on Layden Robinson to move back up in the second to get Polk or another one of the great WR’s who were left.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I was advocating for Newton and Powers-Johnson at 34, so it’s pretty obvious where I come down on it. But I still like the Polk pick when I watched him and read more about him.

Polk is OK. I do not think Polk is a bad pick. The parallel I heard was Jordy Nelson, good but not great. Of course, Nelson had Rogers throwng to him, so it is kind of like having TB12 throw to you, where the QB makes the WR look better than he is. With the 34th pick in the draft I was hoping for someone with a much much higher ceiling.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Could you name a team that always drafts strictly bpa regardless of need?

No team drafts 100% BPA. Not sure what you mean. My point is that this year we drafted 100% based on need, which is rarely a strategy going into the draft. The idea is to be balanced, and I would advocate for 75%+ BPA.

Who do you think has a higher ceiling, Cooper Dejean or Ja'lynn Polk? Kool-aid McKinstry or Ja'lynn Polk? The Pats could have chosen Maye based on need in R1, and Maye might have been the BPA at that point, draft BPA in R2 and R3 (that does not mean the Pats had to chose defense in R2 and R3), and then draft for need in the balance of the draft. That would be a much wiser approach IMO.

 

[State]

I think Wolf can’t evaluate offensive linemen.

If he could he wouldn’t have signed Okorafor and paid someone else that money instead. If he could he would have known in round two there were only two legit left tackle starters left on the board.

He could have packaged the pick he used on Wallace and the one he wasted entirely on Layden Robinson to move back up in the second to get Polk or another one of the great WR’s who were left.

I’m starting to think you’re right. There were good fa options like Dalton Risner in Minnesota. No movement. My mind is open about Okorafor. I know you are down on his ability. He’s too stiff.

But our LT position at this point needs almost a minor miracle. I hope I’m not being alarmist. But if Jacoby goes down, I don’t want our precious Maye to suffer the slings and arrows of an nfl pummeling by the poor LT play.

 

[State]

My point is that this year we drafted 100% based on need

I don’t think so. I would agree if they had gone LT in the second round. They could have traded down again.

It’s the law of supply and demand. There are many more nfl receivers coming out than nfl linemen.

That’s why I was banging the drum for Patrick Paul and his athletic 36” arms at 34. We’ll see him soon enough with the Dolphins.

Hell, we could have weaponized the WRs with Bub Means out of Pittsburgh, a late round guy.

 

[Wozzy]

I’m starting to think you’re right. There were good fa options like Dalton Risner in Minnesota. No movement. My mind is open about Okorafor. I know you are down on his ability. He’s too stiff.

But our LT position at this point needs almost a minor miracle. I hope I’m not being alarmist. But if Jacoby goes down, I don’t want our precious Maye to suffer the slings and arrows of an nfl pummeling by the poor LT play.

I think they can get by with 4 very good returning OL starters assuming they stay healthy… which they couldn’t last year.

Even with Okorafor they can get by with no left tackle by placing a blocking TE Austin Hooper over his outside shoulder to provide help.

Strange, Andrews, Sow, Onwenu is still 4/5ths of a great offensive line if healthy. They have good depth with Jake Andrews at center, Mafi at guard and Anderson as a swing tackle or potential starter. I just think the two offensive linemen they picked were a total waste of picks.

Wallace in years past is a guy BB would have drafted in the 5th or 6th round in the hopes of fixing him… Wolf seems to think he can start at LT… this is lunacy. Layden Robinson is UDFA material at best, the guy is too small, not overly athletic or strong. Terrible…

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I don’t think so. I would agree if they had gone LT in the second round.

So you think in R2 that Polk was the BPA over Cooper Dejean and Kool-aid McKinstry? You think drafting two 4.5 sec WRs is BPA with a ton of upside?

They could have traded down again.

Agreed. They are always scared their top prospect is going to be gone before they pick. And they opening talk about being scared. LOL.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Polk is OK. I do not think Polk is a bad pick. The parallel I heard was Jordy Nelson, good but not great. Of course, Nelson had Rogers throwng to him, so it is kind of like having TB12 throw to you, where the QB makes the WR look better than he is. With the 34th pick in the draft I was hoping for someone with a much much higher ceiling.

They had him rated as the fifth WR in the Draft, if true then early 2nd was an appropriate place to take him, and the Baker pick really helped them to improve the unit.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Polk is OK. I do not think Polk is a bad pick. The parallel I heard was Jordy Nelson, good but not great. Of course, Nelson had Rogers throwng to him, so it is kind of like having TB12 throw to you, where the QB makes the WR look better than he is. With the 34th pick in the draft I was hoping for someone with a much much higher ceiling.

I thought Nelson was really good player, if he pans out like him then it was a really good pick.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

They had him rated as the fifth WR in the Draft, if true then early 2nd was an appropriate place to take him, and the Baker pick really helped them to improve the unit.

Baker could not hack it at Alabama and transferred "down" to UCF. Never a good sign if the kid could not hack it at Alabama and now he has to elevate to compete in the NFL.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I thought Nelson was really good player, if he pans out like him then it was a really good pick.

Nelson had Aaron Rogers throwing to him. David Givens was great as long as Brady was throwing to him. Nelson was at the Raiders for one season after leaving Rogers and GB, and then out of the league. We will see.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Baker could not hack it at Alabama and transferred "down" to UCF. Never a good sign if the kid could not hack it at Alabama and now he has to elevate to compete in the NFL.

Couldn't hack it or had some really good players ahead of him taking most the of the snaps?

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Couldn't hack it or had some really good players ahead of him taking most the of the snaps?

In 2020 Alabama had Melchie, Waddle and Devonte Smith.....Could explain why he couldn't see the field.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Couldn't hack it or had some really good players ahead of him taking most the of the snaps?

Seems like an emotional guy. Did you see his tweets? LOL Might struggle with higher competition.

 

[TomPatriot]

I think Wolf can’t evaluate offensive linemen.

If he could he wouldn’t have signed Okorafor and paid someone else that money instead.

Who is better and available?

 

[Wozzy]

Who is better and available?

Who was better and available, Okorafor was one of their earliest signings.

There were better players out there who signed for similar or less money.

 

[TomPatriot]

Who was better and available, Okorafor was one of their earliest signings.

There were better players out there who signed for similar or less money.

Ok, was. Who was better for similar money?

 

[Wozzy]

Ok, was. Who was better for similar money?

Oli Udoh, Yosh Nijman, Andrus Peat...

I only start with these guys because they were the younger healthier options available.

But there were older more oft injured guys who have multiple pro bowls to their resume who could have been considered.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Nelson had Aaron Rogers throwing to him. David Givens was great as long as Brady was throwing to him. Nelson was at the Raiders for one season after leaving Rogers and GB, and then out of the league. We will see.

Nelson was 33 when he played for OAK and was in decline a year earlier.