Interesting BB nuggets from Rapoport

[TomPatriot]

Well, Terry Glenn....

But none that we know of since 2000...technically speaking, but the personnel structure had been like this: Kraft, Jonathan Kraft, Caserio. and BB. Then we added McDaniels to that group when he left the Colts at the altar (an example of Kraft getting involved). Then Caserio left....we promoted Groh and Wolf somewhat. Then we basically gave Mayo a bump in pay and hired BOB (another example of Kraft stepping in).

The man owns the team...just saying....

But BB wanted all those things and that’s why Kraft got involved.

 

[jdlboot14]

I just saw news that Harbaugh hired Don Yee to represent him. That doesn't sound like he's ready to accept Michigan's offer, that sounds like he wants to explore options in the NFL. We all know Yee has worked with the Pats for a long time... interesting.

Also, I was loyal to JMD for a long time, he did a lot as OC. But, if we're moving on from BB, I don't want a BB-clone.
That includes Flores - who has turned into a bitter entitled litigator.

I would take:
A. BB with a stronger GM balance, and BOB as Asst. HC / OC
B. BOB as HC, Mayo DC, (pipeline OC)
C. Harbaugh as HC, Mayo DC, (new OC)

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't know about meddling with Mac but there were rumors he's given more personnel power to Groh.

From what I understand, the organization promoted groh into a co- gm role to speak. When caserio left. Bill said himself on WEEI that he couldn't do everything by himself alone. So what I believe is Groh along with Bill, Wolfe are all responsible for signing and drafting players however Bill has finally say.

 

[Real fan 02]

He used to be several decades ago. He learned his lesson and gave BB near-complete autonomy. I don't know where this whole 82 year old RK is now suddenly making on-field decisions for the team.

As we all know.. RK makes all the final decisions for his franchise.. Bill makes roster decisions. I agree Bill's had alot of autonomy. I don't believe for one minute RK is telling Bill who to play/not play like David Tepper has.

I believe that RK is disappointed, and embarrassed by how the season has gone and how it's looked. People have to remember RK is a gracious owner someone who cares about his teams perception. He wants to get his team back into a contender to keep those seats, concessions, and sponsors happy.

 

[Real fan 02]

I just saw news that Harbaugh hired Don Yee to represent him. That doesn't sound like he's ready to accept Michigan's offer, that sounds like he wants to explore options in the NFL. We all know Yee has worked with the Pats for a long time... interesting.

Also, I was loyal to JMD for a long time, he did a lot as OC. But, if we're moving on from BB, I don't want a BB-clone.
That includes Flores - who has turned into a bitter entitled litigator.

I would take:
A. BB with a stronger GM balance, and BOB as Asst. HC / OC
B. BOB as HC, Mayo DC, (pipeline OC)
C. Harbaugh as HC, Mayo DC, (new OC)

I'll agree. Just wanted to touch on Flores, with him he was here for a long time. Worked his way up the ladder of success here. He like pepper Johnson kept getting overlooked while others were getting promoted in the organization.

He is an excellent DC. I agree maybe his HC tenure in MIA could have gone better. Personally I'd like Mayo as HC, covington as DC, Josh back as OC ( he'd be free) I believe BOB is going back to the NCAA just my opinion..

 

[50-yard-line]

I would love Mcdaniels back in some capacity.

No way as HEAD COACH. No way - did you read the comments after Vegas dumped him?

He may not be anyone’s BFF but he can coach.

Maybe, but Devante Adams said that the defenses knew what they were doing all the time. Note how the Pats
can't get separation" - maybe that system can't handle the speed of NFL defenses and DCs who have watched it for decades.
I don't play into any of this with any seriousness - Rap is looking for clicks with pure speculation, which is fine this time of the year.


Flores would be my choice over Josh. The Dolphins improved because of a couple of huge breaks (draft haul and Tyreek Hill) that did more to fix that team than anything else. Flores was building a solid team there. He "ratted out" a cheater and I have no problem with that.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

If Bill leaves every other Bill guy including Mayo should go with him, either move on or don't move on.

Firing Bill and keeping everyone else and making Mayo the HC is just living in the past and not really moving forward.

 

[Ross12]

No way as HEAD COACH. No way - did you read the comments after Vegas dumped him?


Maybe, but Devante Adams said that the defenses knew what they were doing all the time. Note how the Pats
can't get separation" - maybe that system can't handle the speed of NFL defenses and DCs who have watched it for decades.
I don't play into any of this with any seriousness - Rap is looking for clicks with pure speculation, which is fine this time of the year.


Flores would be my choice over Josh. The Dolphins improved because of a couple of huge breaks (draft haul and Tyreek Hill) that did more to fix that team than anything else. Flores was building a solid team there. He "ratted out" a cheater and I have no problem with that.

Let’s not forget that he had his GM trading away some of his best players for picks and the guy kept winning and kept a winning culture. If you believe his story, he was being pushed to tank and wouldn’t do it. Then the fired him and used the picks they got for trading his best players on other guys he never would get to utilize, and it’s benefitted McDaniel instead. He’s gone on to have success elsewhere. I like Flores.

 

[Free_Pacman]

If Bill leaves, I want Steve Belichick as HC, not McDaniels or Mayo.

 

[Love The Drake]

If Bill leaves every other Bill guy including Mayo should go with him, either move on or don't move on.

Firing Bill and keeping everyone else and making Mayo the HC is just living in the past and not really moving forward.

Ben Johnson should be the guy.
Dark horse is Mike McDonald, guy maybe a young Belichick in a sense.
Dolphins ass OC and Brian Greise, should also get consideration. As should Rams ass coaches.
If they are moving on from Bill they should do a huge coaching search.
I want at least 10 interviews to get the right guy.

 

[Love The Drake]

If Bill leaves, I want Steve Belichick as HC, not McDaniels or Mayo.

Dear God

 

[Ring 6]

It would not surprise me if Kraft and Belichick had different views of the Brady departure. If Kraft started to sour on Bill as a result it’s going to continue to fester until Bill either leaves or hoists another Patriots’ Lombardi.

and if Kraft’s increased activism drives Bill out it does not bode well for whoever replaces Bill, because Bob will be the de facto executive head coach. Once he’s started micromanaging Bill no other HC has a chance of avoiding it. That will be a mess until Bob is out of the picture and Jonathan can start running everything. Hopefully he’ll be up to it.

People love to call Brady’s choosing to leave Belichick forcing him out, and seem to want to forget Krafts input.

"I was just trying to stay ahead of the curve. If we were going to have to pay him elite-quarterback money and have elite-quarterback cap numbers, I just didn't think we would be able to build a team. We don't want to have a team where we're paying 18 to 20 percent to a player on the cap. I wanted to do something elegant that would work for everybody. I had been talking to him off and on for maybe 18 months, about how I wanted him to finish his career here, and about how we both have to be smart about it. I just really want him to end his career a Patriot.''

This was 2013, when Brady was 36 and Kraft publicly stated he wouldn’t give him top dollar and that he, not belichick, was doing the negotiating.

 

[Ring 6]

Ben Johnson should be the guy.
Dark horse is Mike McDonald, guy maybe a young Belichick in a sense.
Dolphins ass OC and Brian Greise, should also get consideration. As should Rams ass coaches.
If they are moving on from Bill they should do a huge coaching search.
I want at least 10 interviews to get the right guy.

What an impressive plan to throw away the next 5 years.

 

[condon84]

If Kraft has been interfering in football operations, it seems BB would be looking for concessions from Kraft to stay, not the other way around.

Will we find out if Kraft was forcing BB to play Mac?

If so, that is a spectacular fail.

We did hear this from BoB

Bill O’Brien says that who starts at quarterback isn’t up to him

Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien says that who starts at quarterback isn’t up to him. Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

For instance, when asked Tuesday if he could sit Mac Jones for a week if he felt that the quarterback needed a quick reset, O’Brien said he wouldn’t be able to do it.

“We don’t make those calls,” O’Brien said. “There’s a chain of command. The chain of command is Mr. Kraft at the top, then it’s Bill Belichick, and then I would say the assistant coaches are somewhere down in here.

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Sounds to me that Kraft made sure Mac was starting.

 

[Love The Drake]

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We did hear this from BoB

Bill O’Brien says that who starts at quarterback isn’t up to him

Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien says that who starts at quarterback isn’t up to him. Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

For instance, when asked Tuesday if he could sit Mac Jones for a week if he felt that the quarterback needed a quick reset, O’Brien said he wouldn’t be able to do it.

“We don’t make those calls,” O’Brien said. “There’s a chain of command. The chain of command is Mr. Kraft at the top, then it’s Bill Belichick, and then I would say the assistant coaches are somewhere down in here.

I caught this comment, but at the time I felt it was a more that’s above my title/pay grade response. Also by not putting Bill first maybe he was protecting Belichick in some way.

Hard to say.

 

[Love The Drake]

What an impressive plan to throw away the next 5 years.

By interviewing 10 potential head coaches and make an educated decision?
This is a scenario IF Bill leaves.
What would be your path if Bill left?

 

[Tunescribe]

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I caught this comment, but at the time I felt it was a more that’s above my title/pay grade response. Also by not putting Bill first maybe he was protecting Belichick in some way.

Hard to say.

It's just standard deference to the head coach, nothing should be construed from it.

 

[condon84]

I’m

I caught this comment, but at the time I felt it was a more that’s above my title/pay grade response. Also by not putting Bill first maybe he was protecting Belichick in some way.

Hard to say.

He was asked about sitting Mac. He could have said "Mac gives us the best chance to win". Or "I don't make those decisions".

He made sure to let it be known that Kraft was tied to the decision in who was starting at QB.

Kraft was the one who sought out and hired BoB as OC.

 

[Ring 6]

By interviewing 10 potential head coaches and make an educated decision?
This is a scenario IF Bill leaves.
What would be your path if Bill left?

To hire better coach than that lame list.
Brian Griese has been a football coach at any level for less than 2 years and is a position coach with zero supervisory responsibility ever.
You even name guys whose name you don’t know.

 

[signbabybrady]

I think you all know my preference is to keep Bill.


After that I think you have to consider a couple of things. Offense right now is our biggest problem. However the flip side of that is our defense is a strength and who would be capable of keeping that running smoothly.

Also we are the freaking Patriots so I feel like we should be able to get a very strong candidate and not a first time coach.

So that would lead me to Something like Jim Harbaugh with either Mayo or Stephen as DC. I'd lean towards Stephen for various reasons.