PostGame Thread Week 12 PostGame Thread: NE Loses 10-7 to NYG

[VJCPatriot]

Brady executed Bill's plan. Brady executed Bill's plan. Enough.

LOL? No, not nearly enough. Brady left Bill and won a Superbowl with the Buccaneers.

Meanwhile Belichick has floundered in abject FAILURE without Brady!

BB in Cleveland 36-44.
BB post-Brady 20-25.

Brady post-BB. 32-18. 1 Superbowl Win.

It's not even CLOSE!

 

[Triumph]

Wait till week 5 to find out.

Whats Macs trade value up to?

 

[palialka]

On pace for 52yds this season.

Come on…he could crack 100 if he really tears it up

 

[sb1]

Whats Macs trade value up to?

We’ll know in week 5 when your #1 smurf wins the job.

 

[Peachhead]

I just never want to see Mac again. He’s terrible and yes Zappe is too

Agreed, they're both terrible. But at least Zappe isn't an a**hole like Mac's been.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Panthers are finishing dead last and that pick is Chicago's. I don't foesee a scenario where Chicago does not pick Williams. Question is what would NE need to give up if Chicago got the second, and auctions it off to a QB needy team. Unless, Chicago drafts MHJ to go with Caleb. Leaving NE a free chance at Maye for the third.

The most intriguing question is what does Arizona do if they get the second. Getting rid of Kyler does not seem to be possible. So, do they take MHJ or auction off that two pick. I think they take MHJ.

 

[HSanders]

At this point there HAS to be, just the culture alone needs to change.

why? the players are still playing hard. they have started playing better on offense minus the qbs. they don't seem to have tuned out their coach. in fact,vilma said during the game that peppers told them he has learned more about football in tne past 1.5 years than he has in the redt of his life. i do think if they keep bb he HAS to increase the size of his staff.

 

[PatsFan2]

He might have been the worst OL after Brown went in. He is not improving.

Hated that Strange pick.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Panthers are finishing dead last and that pick is Chicago's. I don't foesee a scenario where Chicago does not pick Williams. Question is what would NE need to give up if Chicago got the second, and auctions it off to a QB needy team. Unless, Chicago drafts MHJ to go with Caleb. Leaving NE a free chance at Maye for the third.

The most intriguing question is what does Arizona do if they get the second. Getting rid of Kyler does not seem to be possible. So, do they take MHJ or auction off that two pick. I think they take MHJ.

Arizona locked themselves in when they gave Kyler Murray that mega-contract. I don't see any way they draft a QB in the 1st. A stud WR or DE maybe, but not a QB right now.

Even trading Kyler Murray and getting another 1st round pick in return would have mind-boggling implications on their salary cap space.

81m dead cap hit in 2024 and 33m dead cap hit in 2025. It's not even realistic to get rid of Murray until 2026 at the earliest when the dead cap hit is "only" 20m.

Salary cap site:

Kyler Murray | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Kyler Murray signed a 5 year, $230,500,000 contract with the Arizona Cardinals, including $29,035,000 signing bonus, $159,797,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $46,100,000. In 2025, Murray will earn a base salary of $18,000,000, a roster bonus of $11,900,000 and a workout bonus...

www.spotrac.com

 

[Peachhead]

OK, who is out there for Kraft to hire as Head Coach.

Got any names?

When they showed Kraft talking to Daboll I kinda got to thinking Kraft could go with him if the Giants can him this year. It may sound silly, hiring the fired coach from one of the bettom teams in the league. But a lot of the Giants' woes aren't Daboll's fault.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Arizona locked themselves in when they gave Kyler Murray that mega-contract. I don't see any way they draft a QB in the 1st. A stud WR or DE maybe, but not a QB right now.

Then, do they trade the pick or take MHJ?

 

[NFL Mystique]

When they showed Kraft talking to Daboll I kinda got to thinking Kraft could go with him if the Giants can him this year. It may sound silly, hiring the fired coach from one of the bettom teams in the league. But a lot of the Giants' woes aren't Daboll's fault.

I don't think thete is a chance Daboll gets fired.

Giants would further cement themselves as a place where coaches go to die.

 

[javajunky]

I have a confession. I rooted for the Giants to win. I wanted as many Pats players to show well as possible, but I ultimately wanted the team to find a way to lose. It was an exciting, thrilling game for me, a great ride to a top-two pick. A future franchise QB is hope, and we are only six games away.

 

[They_Hate_We]

Then, do they trade the pick or take MHJ?

It scares me more that they trade down for a QB hungry team and we miss out on Maye. But, they already have 2 first rounders in the draft, so I don't see it happening. I think, if they end up with a top 2 pick, they take MHJ. Dumping Murray would be like a 90 mil cap hit or something.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

LOL? No, not nearly enough. Brady left Bill and won a Superbowl with the Buccaneers.

Meanwhile Belichick has floundered in abject FAILURE without Brady!

BB in Cleveland 36-44.
BB post-Brady 20-25.

Brady post-BB. 32-18. 1 Superbowl Win.

It's not even CLOSE!

BB needs a QB to execute his plan, not thrown interceptions and cower in the face of a pass rush.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Hated that Strange pick.

I remember many on the board wanted McDuffie.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Then, do they trade the pick or take MHJ?

Don't know yet. Draft order isn't final. But as it stands today, why wouldn't they want a weapon like MHJ on their team? If their OL is in shambles, maybe they take a stud LT in which case they will probably be open to trading down. I don't follow the Cards so I don't know their team needs as well as their fans would.

 

[NFL Mystique]

It scares me more that they trade down for a QB hungry team and we miss out on Maye. But, they already have 2 first rounders in the draft, so I don't see it happening. I think, if they end up with a top 2 pick, they take MHJ. Dumping Murray would be like a 90 mil cap hit or something.

Yeah. I understand a team wanting alot of picks. But MHJ is a generational talent. I don't think you pass that up. Receivers like that, and they need receivers, are near impossible to come by. And I think Murray is good enough with MHJ to be contenders.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Don't know yet. Draft order isn't final. But as it stands today, why wouldn't they want a weapon like MHJ on their team? If their OL is in shambles, maybe they take a stud LT in which case they will probably be open to trading down. I don't follow the Cards so I don't know their team needs as well as their fans would.

I have a feeling AZ will end up better than NE anyways.

 

[Triumph]

We’ll know in week 5 when your #1 smurf wins the job.

Is Malik coming back QBW?