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Hence “if he keeps it up for the rest of summer”
We're talkin' 'bout practice- not the games.

I'm sure the NEP have already decided what they want to do.
 
They are both personnel guys…Wolf has been doing it for about 8 years longer.
Correct.. I believe wolf is not as involved as groh/BB with the contracts, singing ect.. I absolutely love the fact groh is very informative.. I believe post BB whenever that is we'll be seeing a different patriots team with the media
 
What size is the gun you're putting to their (and their agent's) head since any contract requires both parties to agree?
I remember hearing about Jaime Collins and Malcolm butlers extension talks when they where here.. how the team offered them more money than they ended up getting from other teams..

I believe between Dugger, ownenu, Uche.. one of the 3 will likely be extended. In groh I trust!!
 
That's right.. assuming if can't come to a agreement he gets it..
I think that really depends on whether he would be considered a DE, the tag dollars are huge, or LB, the tag dollars are more manageable.

At a LB franchise tag numbers I would be in favor, not for a DE though.
 
I think that really depends on whether he would be considered a DE, the tag dollars are huge, or LB, the tag dollars are more manageable.

At a LB franchise tag numbers I would be in favor, not for a DE though.
I believe he's listed at LB.. he and judon make up a dangerous duo.. anyway it shapes up I'd love for uche to remain here. We need to take care of our own guys.
 
Ok ... consider this:

Camp - Week 1-2


Camp - Weeks 3+
That's when the finishing/paint/polish etc. is applied.
 
So you want to wait until 2/3 of the preseason games to talk about starting jobs but let’s talk about where the team is going to finish the season now?
Very fair, but I haven’t seen anything on paper to modify this prediction.

Reasoning I think the Jets are hungry and have a stacked roster on offense running a Green Bay System that Aaron has put up MVP numbers.

The defense is improved and always solid to very strong under Saleh.

Rodgers seems bought in and will put up close to video game numbers,

Dolphins too many weapons, innovative play calling, solid to strong defense and Home field in Miami has been our kryptonite.

Bills will go as far as Allen’s arm and Diggs will take them.
Defense is stellar.
Coaching is very good.

Hurts that we were offered Diggs by Minny but refused to up our draft pick compensation.
No he Wouldn’t be as good here but it would strip Buff of one of the best weapons in the league and make us at the very least a balanced offense and a threat to the playoffs.

I hope I’m wrong but this is what I see.

Worst part is Kraft will go nuclear even though the talent pool on offense has shifted for years us with Brady, Moss, Gronk, Welker, Branch, Edelman.

Now we are looking at these explosive offenses and relying on defense and a mistake free ball control offense to win:

Isn’t impossible but it’s going to be Macs and Bills toughest test.
 
Not to mention the GARBAGE he had to deal with in Pitt when Roethlisberger was injured.
Very true. Their QB depth was not good.
 
Sorry Ross: Mac is still in prove it mode at this time his name should never be in the sentence with the word elite.
Certainly! But perhaps Juju's opinion can give us a little positivity in our outlook, at least for now.
The term “guy” is akin to someone who has “It!” Right? I take it with a grain of salt. Guys not gonna talk **** on his new QB but thats how Im taking what he said.
Yeah, pretty much "it" is the same thing. Of course he's gonna pay deference to his new QB. Also depends on what he was asked, which we don't know. Was the question "what do you think of Mac" or was it "how does Mac compare to your last two NFL QBs". If it's the latter, it's probably gonna lead him to an answer like this. If someone is directly asking for a comparison to Mahomes, he's not likely to say "Mac is OK, I guess. He's no Mahomes but he can probably get the job done."
 
Very fair, but I haven’t seen anything on paper to modify this prediction.

Reasoning I think the Jets are hungry and have a stacked roster on offense running a Green Bay System that Aaron has put up MVP numbers.

The defense is improved and always solid to very strong under Saleh.

Rodgers seems bought in and will put up close to video game numbers,

Dolphins too many weapons, innovative play calling, solid to strong defense and Home field in Miami has been our kryptonite.

Bills will go as far as Allen’s arm and Diggs will take them.
Defense is stellar.
Coaching is very good.

Hurts that we were offered Diggs by Minny but refused to up our draft pick compensation.
No he Wouldn’t be as good here but it would strip Buff of one of the best weapons in the league and make us at the very least a balanced offense and a threat to the playoffs.

I hope I’m wrong but this is what I see.

Worst part is Kraft will go nuclear even though the talent pool on offense has shifted for years us with Brady, Moss, Gronk, Welker, Branch, Edelman.

Now we are looking at these explosive offenses and relying on defense and a mistake free ball control offense to win:

Isn’t impossible but it’s going to be Macs and Bills toughest test.
I'll push back on Bills defense.. they are good not great.. loosing Edmunds hurts them.. poyer is on the other side of 30 and always plays hurt alot. Tre white isn't the all pro he was before the injury.. he can be had on double moves.

As long as Diggs has his way he's happy.. if not he pouts.. on the Diggs trade your absolutely correct.. the concerns on his attitude I believe is what nixed that trade. However we still should have done it. McDermott is a great coach, but a defense 1st guy not necessarily an offensive mind.

Miami for some odd reason we seem to match up better with thier skill guys.. our secondary is deep enough to keep hill/Waddle from going off. Gotta be Tua at some point ..

I absolutely whole heartedly agree on jets. We have done to them what Buffalo has done to us last 3 seasons.. dominate.

I'm telling folks.. the Jets are the most dangerous team in the AFC East. They were literally a qb away.. they have the only defense in the league Allen struggles mightily against. Diggs may as well have a DNP when he faces sauce...

Sauce reminds me of Namdi Asomugha.. the great corner with raiders. Quinnen Williams is absolutely game wrecker.

I have us going 3-3 In the division.. splitting with each team. I also have us getting 8 wins outside the division giving us 11 wins on the season.
 
Apparently thornton not taking many snaps. Not a good sign so far
 
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