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PFT: Bill "has shopped" Mac

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If this is true, Bill should be fired. He is the reason Mac was not good last year.
You'd fire Bill over this bum Mac Jones

You think Mayo + Mac means anything but last place?

The sooner people accept Mac Jones is not good the sooner we can move on, the only reason for keeping Mac Jones is he's cheap, Bill isn't going to let his career end with mediocre Mac winning 8 games a year.
 
The only justification I could see is if Bill really feels Mac's talent plateaus at the Derek Carr / Andy Dalton level or less, and feels he needs someone far better, and feels he can get enough draft capital to acquire that far better player via trade.
Josh Allen and Tua looked like complete garbage until they got big weapons in year 3.

How on earth can anyone know where Jones's talent will plateau after whatever TF last year was?
 
This is really tough to say.
Imagine the boulder on this guys shoulder.
I think Bill is really putting himself on cliff here.
If he trades Mac and Mac turns into a stud, Kraft will fire him.
If the QB who fills in for him doesn’t show glimpses of greatness Kraft will fire him.

This is crazy that this didn’t happen already we are so far into everything.
We could of had Baker Mayfield, Jimmy G but it’s hard to beat we got hot hookers here.

Super crazy.
You'd fire Bill over this bum Mac Jones

You think Mayo + Mac means anything but last place?

The sooner people accept Mac Jones is not good the sooner we can move on, the only reason for keeping Mac Jones is he's cheap.
 
Josh Allen and Tua looked like complete garbage until they got big weapons in year 3.

How on earth can anyone know where Jones's talent will plateau after whatever TF last year was?
Another complete myth by Mac Media, Josh Allen had 20 TDs 9 picks (+ 9 more rushing TDs) and went 10-6 in his 2nd season it's fair to say he took another big jump in year 3 but Josh Allen had 11 mediocre games as a rookie and then took an instant jump.
 
Now Pats Fans hear this.
If Mac is their guy they need to get in front of this and deny deny deny.
If we hear crickets we know it’s true.

I feel bad for Mac I really do.
 
Why wouldn't BB continue to jettison his mistakes?
Harry
Jonnu
Patricia

Mac is the least athletic starter in the NFL with a body type most similar to JV mixed doubles partners.
His upside might be 18 TD passes if favorable game day weather blesses him.
 
There has been a lot of indicators through many different sources about the relationship. It’s fine to maintain healthy skepticism but you seem to be outright rejecting any validity.
I remember people saying the exact same thing about the Video Scandal when that POS Herald reporter came out and said that he had verified sources that the Pats videoed the Rams.. Turned out to be nothing but BS fabrication.
 
You'd fire Bill over this bum Mac Jones

You think Mayo + Mac means anything but last place?

The sooner people accept Mac Jones is not good the sooner we can move on, the only reason for keeping Mac Jones is he's cheap, Bill isn't going to let his career end with mediocre Mac winning 8 games a year.

I don’t agree with firing Bill, but to your point about moving on from mac this easily , again what is the alternative here? Taking another flier on another mid 1st rd or mid round rookie.., do you really wanna do this every 2 years until we find an elite qb?
 
I was a huge Allen fan watching him throw on social media.
Another complete myth by Mac Media, Josh Allen had 20 TDs 9 picks (+ 9 more rushing TDs) and went 10-6 in his 2nd season it's fair to say he took another big jump in year 3 but Josh Allen had 11 mediocre games as a rookie and then took an instant jump.

I was like we need to draft that kid he is a monster.
When Buff drafted him bills fans were like no not another no name QB and I was like this kid is different.
 
I don’t agree with firing Bill, but to your point about moving on from mac this easily , again what is the alternative here? Taking another flier on another mid 1st rd or mid round rookie.., do you really wanna do this every 2 years until we find an elite qb?
Yes, it's better than having 10 years of .500 football with Alex Smith Jr at quarterback.
 
You'd fire Bill over this bum Mac Jones

You think Mayo + Mac means anything but last place?

The sooner people accept Mac Jones is not good the sooner we can move on, the only reason for keeping Mac Jones is he's cheap, Bill isn't going to let his career end with mediocre Mac winning 8 games a year.
I am not a pro Mac guy per se but Bill ran the greatest QB ever out of town with plenty of gas left in the tank. Had no backup plan at QB and then a couple years later had no backup plan at OC and hired his friend. Now he is butting heads with a QB who he put in a position to fail and might be trying to ship him out of town? Bill is having a tough time with the locker room now that everyone isn't falling in line behind Brady.
 
I think the bigger concern is it seems like he can't admit he was wrong.

At this point maybe we should be glad Patricia wasn't promoted to official OC.

Didn't he hire Bill O'Brien? That counts as an admission in my book.

So was trading N'Keal Harry.....
 


Oh the popcorn that I'd be making if this is the plan

This forum would blow up......
 
I am not a pro Mac guy per se but Bill ran the greatest QB ever out of town with plenty of gas left in the tank. Had no backup plan at QB and then a couple years later had no backup plan at OC and hired his friend. Now he is butting heads with a QB who he put in a position to fail and might be trying to ship him out of town? Bill is having a tough time with the locker room now that everyone isn't falling in line behind Brady.
Kraft has made his bed, you can't pick Bill over Tom then pick Mac Jones over Bill.
 
Yes, it's better than having 10 years of .500 football with Alex Smith Jr at quarterback.

10 years? Hes on a rookie contract 2 more years at which point we’ll likely know for sure what hes going to be. Id be totally fine moving on at that point if hes still not indicating hes not the guy. Its WAY too early right now especially when one of the 2 seasons is an incomplete.
 
Belichick sending a message to RK about keeping his nose out of player personnel evaluations?
 
10 years? Hes on a rookie contract 2 more years at which point we’ll likely know for sure what hes going to be. Id be totally fine moving on at that point if hes still not indicating hes not the guy. Its WAY too early right now especially when one of the 2 seasons is an incomplete.
If Bill doesn't think he's good enough now why wait?

He didn't wait to change Jonnu or wait to change Patricia, why is Mac any different?
 
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