Belichick's Decision to Move Brady Thread

[crawhammer]

I told you Brady having Arians fired and winning 8 games was problematic... all you had was excuses.

Brady didn't have BA fired so you can stop with that unless you have some proof. We know BA has had some health concerns which would have had him considering retirement. Plus BA genuinely wanted to give Bowles another opportunity as a head coach and that didn't look like it would happen elsewhere. You think Brady wanted anything to do with toilet bowles as his head coach? Absolutely not and he probably thought he could just run the offense absent interference from Bowles but unfortunately Bowles took his title as HC seriously.

Bottom line is Brady wanted out of Tampa Bay altogether after 2021 but he got completely backed into a corner. It was the Bucs or retirement so he opted for another season with the Bucs. It was worth it for some legacy padding but it wasn't a successful season for the team.

I think it's likely Brady still wants to play but he's completely fed up with not having everything exactly the way he wants it and he probably realizes the perfect scenario doesn't exist. Look at douchebag Rodgers, completely losing his mind trying to compel everyone else to accommodate his perfect scenario, good luck, he won't find it, especially not in NYJ.

 

[Tunescribe]

Brady didn't have BA fired so you can stop with that unless you have some proof. We know BA has had some health concerns which would have had him considering retirement. Plus BA genuinely wanted to give Bowles another opportunity as a head coach and that didn't look like it would happen elsewhere. You think Brady wanted anything to do with toilet bowles as his head coach? Absolutely not and he probably thought he could just run the offense absent interference from Bowles but unfortunately Bowles took his title as HC seriously.

Bottom line is Brady wanted out of Tampa Bay altogether after 2021 but he got completely backed into a corner. It was the Bucs or retirement so he opted for another season with the Bucs. It was worth it for some legacy padding but it wasn't a successful season for the team.

I think it's likely Brady still wants to play but he's completely fed up with not having everything exactly the way he wants it and he probably realizes the perfect scenario doesn't exist. Look at douchebag Rodgers, completely losing his mind trying to compel everyone else to accommodate his perfect scenario, good luck, he won't find it, especially not in NYJ.

Only a Fool Would Think Tom Brady Didn't Get Bruce Arians Fired | FOX Sports Radio

Doug Gottlieb explains why it’s laughable to think that Tom Brady did not get Bruce Arians ‘fired’ this offseason, as Gottlieb breaks down the cringe-worthy Brady press conference this week that had Brady trying to tamp down the rumors around a sour relationship with Arians.

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Only a Fool Would Think Tom Brady Didn't Get Bruce Arians Fired | FOX Sports Radio

Doug Gottlieb explains why it’s laughable to think that Tom Brady did not get Bruce Arians ‘fired’ this offseason, as Gottlieb breaks down the cringe-worthy Brady press conference this week that had Brady trying to tamp down the rumors around a sour relationship with Arians.

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Doug Gottlieb? That's who you're going with for an NFL take?

It's conjecture. Gottlieb's personal opinion on the situation. He has no sources, no factual information, no nothing. Worthless link.

 

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Doug Gottlieb? That's who you're going with for an NFL take?

It's conjecture. Gottlieb's personal opinion on the situation. He has no sources, no factual information, no nothing. Worthless link.

He's just doing what others have done with that situation, drawing logical conjecture from circumstance. Brady influencing Arians' move upstairs directly or indirectly makes perfect sense.

 

[crawhammer]

He's just doing what others have done with that situation, drawing logical conjecture from circumstance. Brady influencing Arians' move upstairs directly or indirectly makes perfect sense.

That's you conjecturing. There's not one shred of evidence that Brady got Arians fired. Is it drawing logical conjecture to say Brady wanted a HC he had won a Super Bowl with replaced by the dumbest coach possibly in the history of the NFL?

 

[Tunescribe]

That's you conjecturing. There's not one shred of evidence that Brady got Arians fired. Is it drawing logical conjecture to say Brady wanted a HC he had won a Super Bowl with replaced by the dumbest coach possibly in the history of the NFL?

You have no evidence to the contrary, either. Your own conjecture omits confirmed clashes between Brady/Leftwich and Arians over the offense's direction and Brady's decision to unretire after Arians was replaced. More logical conjecture: Brady wanted a head coach who would't mess with the offense and that's exactly what he got.

 

[crawhammer]

You have no evidence to the contrary, either.

I can link BA's retirement press conference (with Brady sitting in the front row) if you want? No mention of Brady getting him fired. BA also has since denied it after hearing of the reports.

Plus, that's not how it works. You're saying something happened out of thin air with no evidence whatsoever. It's not on me to prove a theory based on nothing at all isn't true.

Your own conjecture omits confirmed clashes between Brady/Leftwich and Arians over the offense's direction and Brady's decision to unretire after Arians was replaced. More logical conjecture: Brady wanted a head coach who would't mess with the offense and that's exactly what he got.

Confirmed by who? Arians denied all of it. Neither Brady nor Leftwich have ever indicated anything negative about their relationship.

You have the timeline backwards too. Brady unretired first, then Arians announced he was moving up to the front office.

And while Brady may have thought Bowles wouldn't mess with the offense, that's not what happened. Bowles was way more conservative than Arians, he ditched the no risk it no biscuit stuff, and he harped on establishing the running game all season. The dummy literally said at halftime of a nationally televised game that in a game where they were averaging 1.8 yards per attempt they needed to run the ball more to turn the game around. The Bucs ultimately won the game in the final seconds with Brady passing nonstop from the no huddle offense. The Bucs running game was dead last in yards, yards per attempt, and TDs in 2022. And toilet bowles wanted more of it.

 

[p8ryts]

I would like to comment on Brady/Arians. WHO CARES! I hope after the draft, Patriot fans can concentrate on what this team can be and let go of Brady and Patricia.

 

[crawhammer]

I would like to comment on Brady/Arians. WHO CARES! I hope after the draft, Patriot fans can concentrate on what this team can be and let go of Brady and Patricia.

The thread is about how much trust do you still have for Belichick. That necessarily includes his decisions regarding Brady's departure from NE and his decision to make his unqualified buddy the offensive coordinator.

 

[Ian]

This is where all of these are getting dumped from now on. It's over and done, we're moving on.

 

[Wozzy]

Brady didn't have BA fired so you can stop with that unless you have some proof. We know BA has had some health concerns which would have had him considering retirement. Plus BA genuinely wanted to give Bowles another opportunity as a head coach and that didn't look like it would happen elsewhere. You think Brady wanted anything to do with toilet bowles as his head coach? Absolutely not and he probably thought he could just run the offense absent interference from Bowles but unfortunately Bowles took his title as HC seriously.

Bottom line is Brady wanted out of Tampa Bay altogether after 2021 but he got completely backed into a corner. It was the Bucs or retirement so he opted for another season with the Bucs. It was worth it for some legacy padding but it wasn't a successful season for the team.

I think it's likely Brady still wants to play but he's completely fed up with not having everything exactly the way he wants it and he probably realizes the perfect scenario doesn't exist. Look at douchebag Rodgers, completely losing his mind trying to compel everyone else to accommodate his perfect scenario, good luck, he won't find it, especially not in NYJ.

Sure…. Tom retires, Arians steps down, Brady instantly comes out of retirement.

Delusion… in a word.

 

[crawhammer]

Sure…. Tom retires, Arians steps down, Brady instantly comes out of retirement. Delusion… in a word.

That's not the proper order. This is... Brady retires (not really), Brady announces he's returning to Tampa Bay, BA holds a press conference (with Brady in the front row) announcing he's moving up to the front office.

Arians said it was entirely his decision. We've found out he had health issues but at the time he indicated with Brady coming back he thought it was a good opportunity to turn things over to Bowles. Arians wanted Bowles to get another head coaching opportunity and he wasn't getting it elsewhere so BA did him a solid. It backfired. Bowles is irretrievably incompetent as a head coach and that was fully on display last season. After he inevitably gets fired from Tampa Bay, he'll join Leftwich as unemployable in the NFL.

It's a good thing Brady took over the offense in November of 2020, after he had put together a championship roster (most important being his presence), because the clown show "organization" in Tampa Bay is an inherent loser. They should be eternally grateful that Brady made them relevant for a few seasons. We were much luckier in New England, we had it for two decades.

 

[Wozzy]

 

[Steve102]

 

[Pats1971]

Sure…. Tom retires, Arians steps down, Brady instantly comes out of retirement.

Delusion… in a word.

Thats not the order it went in. lol Why would Brady want Bowles as the head coach? If it was Brady's entire decision to out BA, why is BA not back this year? You guys hear one thing that the media spins and you ride that BS into the ground.

 

[TBR]

Brady influencing Arians' move upstairs directly or indirectly makes perfect sense.

In order to believe this, you'd have to believe Brady is a total sociopath. Brady was sitting front row at Arians' retirement press conference.

 

[Tunescribe]

In order to believe this, you'd have to believe Brady is a total sociopath. Brady was sitting front row at Arians' retirement press conference.

No, Brady could work behind the scenes on helping facilitate Arians' reassignment and still like/support him in general -- just not as head coach going forward.

 

[Wozzy]

Thats not the order it went in. lol Why would Brady want Bowles as the head coach? If it was Brady's entire decision to out BA, why is BA not back this year? You guys hear one thing that the media spins and you ride that BS into the ground.

That's exactly the order it went.

 

[crawhammer]

That's exactly the order it went.

You're wrong!

This is the order with the dates:

February 1, 2022 Brady announces first "retirement."

March 13, 2022 Brady announces he's returning to Tampa Bay for the 2022 season.

March 30, 2022 Arians announces retirement from coaching and move to Bucs front office. Todd Bowles is named new head coach.

Hey bub, you're only off by 17 days!

 

[VectorPrime]

What does Arians have to do with Belichick deciding to move on from Brady?