The state of GDT and postgame thread moderating

[Kontradiction]

I assume the PatsFans message board is a company. Ian can write off part of his home office, expenses, etc. Being a company does not mean the message board is profitable, it simply means Ian can take advantage of small business tax considerations. And it is a private company.

Even if you’re going with the corporate definition of public vs private, which was clearly not the conversation from the get go, a “private company” can be owned by a group of private investors. That’s who the donors are. But since we’re taking about a message board in which the public can join, contribute posts, or contribute money, it’s safe to say that this is a public forum.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

There are homers.
There are Eeyores.
There are people in the middle.


That's how it's supposed to be. That's how it's been for more than 15 years.

Agreed, and for that reason, I do not have anyone of Ignore or what ever other options there are.

But I think for the last 15 years some posters have been blocked because of their "trolling" for lack of a better word. I am a big free speech guy, but at some point certain posters need to be blocked, and have been for the last 15 years.

 

[Pats2000]

I am? Let’s retrace the post history..



The bold is important. If it was privately funded, Ian would be assuming 100% of the costs for running the board. He isn’t. Our donations go toward that. Hence…



The whole conversation about public vs private was just a way to move the goal posts. We’re not talking about a company. We’re talking about a message board. It’s publicly funded. It used to be privately funded until Ian solicited donations to help run it.., from the public.

Did you get one of those bootleg MBA's from an online university?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Even if you’re going with the corporate definition of public vs private, which was clearly not the conversation from the get go, a “private company” can be owned by a group of private investors. That’s who the donors are. But since we’re taking about a message board in which the public can join, contribute posts, or contribute money, it’s safe to say that this is a public forum.

Agreed. A public forum, but a private company owned by Ian (I assume).

 

[Pats2000]

Even if you’re going with the corporate definition of public vs private, which was clearly not the conversation from the get go, a “private company” can be owned by a group of private investors. That’s who the donors are. But since we’re taking about a message board in which the public can join, contribute posts, or contribute money, it’s safe to say that this is a public forum.

So do you believe your first amendment rights apply to this forum as well?

 

[Kontradiction]

So do you believe your first amendment rights apply to this forum as well?

This is called moving the goal posts. Did you get your Humanities degree from one of those online universities? Tell me - can a group of investors run a private company? No need to expand. Just a yes or no answer.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

The GDT should be a safe space for knee jerk reactions, pessimism, venting, and ranting. That (imo) includes saying "This team won't win another ****ing game" on their first 3 and out. If I said that I OBVIOUSLY wouldn't mean it. But anything that even irks unnamed GDT mod gets classified as trolling and you're done for the rest of the game. Mind you it's a football fan site, a GDT is literally the main purpose of it. If I'm gonna keep getting banned for being pissed off at my team minutes after a winnable OT loss what's the point of sticking around?

 

[Kontradiction]

The GDT should be a safe space for knee jerk reactions, pessimism, venting, and ranting. That (imo) includes saying "This team won't win another ****ing game" on their first 3 and out. If I said that I OBVIOUSLY wouldn't mean it. But anything that even irks unnamed GDT mod gets classified as trolling and you're done for the rest of the game. Mind you it's a football fan site, a GDT is literally the main purpose of it. If I'm gonna keep getting banned for being pissed off at my team minutes after a winnable OT loss what's the point of sticking around?

See, I think it should be an area for talking about public funding for a message board, and then comparing it a company on the Forbes list. If we’re going full r.etard, we might as well take it all the way.

 

[Pats2000]

Because we’re talking about a company? Or are we talking about a message board?

This is a private message board you are allowed to join. It is not a public forum. You have 0 expectations of free speech and you can be banned for a reason or no reason at all. The board solicits money to help run its private operation. That does not make it public, the public has no ownership, interest, or claim on it.

 

[Pats2000]

This is called moving the goal posts. Did you get your Humanities degree from one of those online universities? Tell me - can a group of investors run a private company? No need to expand. Just a yes or no answer.

Sure, investors can run a private company, that doesn't make it public, despite your university of Phoenix degree

 

[Kontradiction]

This is a private message board you are allowed to join. It is not a public forum. You have 0 expectations of free speech and you can be banned for a reason or no reason at all. The board solicits money to help run its private operation. That does not make it public, the public has no ownership, interest, or claim on it.

What is the difference between a private message board you are allowed to join and a public message board that accepts funding to help run its operations? Educate me.

 

[Triumph]

Why even moderate the GDT? Posts instantly get buried.

It's turning into Pat's Homer's. Com

The only reason why I have not been banned for life and a day is because of Ian. I know that without even inquiring.

No matter what, that guy is a Saint and I do not express that view to gain favor whatsoever. My political posts alone would be grounds for exile. My guess is that Ian has spared me from death row for so long. Ashley messaged me moths ago and informed that she gets the most complaints about me.

I could not have been prouder.

In some respects not getting rid of me has made matters worse because I will never shut up. If you believe that I am intolerable here you should see me in person.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

See, I think it should be an area for talking about public funding for a message board, and then comparing it a company on the Forbes list. If we’re going full r.etard, we might as well take it all the way.

You know what Kontra. You are the point of sticking around. Lmao

 

[Deus Irae]

Agreed, and for that reason, I do not have anyone of Ignore or what ever other options there are.

But I think for the last 15 years some posters have been blocked because of their "trolling" for lack of a better word. I am a big free speech guy, but at some point certain posters need to be blocked, and have been for the last 15 years.

Yeah...


Not really. There is no question that both the censorship and the homer Karen posting has gotten much worse over the course of time. It used to take a lot to get banned. Nowadays, you get banned for comparatively little to nothing.

And the numbers of homers going full Karen is a far bigger problem than any trolls.

 

[Kontradiction]

Sure, investors can run a private company, that doesn't make it public, despite your university of Phoenix degree

Who was talking about a company, though? Was it me? Or was that a way of moving the goal posts?

 

[Kontradiction]

You know what Kontra. You are the point of sticking around. Lmao

This is a company. Ian is making so much money off of this place.

 

[Ian]

I'm aware of some of the issues and we've scaled back some of that moderation at my request. I'm going to lock this because I obviously hear you guys and I'll address it privately, but wanted to at least make people aware that it hasn't fallen on deaf ears.

I will say, for the same people who complain about the moderating, I need you to take advantage of the mute function to ignore anyone who is irritating you - which is the point of that function. People reporting posts to mods or complaining about them obviously contributes to some of what goes on, and I do need some of you to step up and take advantage of controlling who you do/don't want to hear from during the game.

If more people did that, it would solve the problem. I personally don't really like having people kicked out of the thread to begin with, but people doing that would certainly alleviate the issue. So please keep that in mind moving forward.

 

[Kontradiction]

Imagine being a grown man and calling yourself “LFGMac10.”

 

[TheRainMaker]

Private vs public discussion....

 

[Kontradiction]

Private vs public discussion....

This is clearly a company. We may be listed on the S&P next year.