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Did Maroney get benched last night?

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Maroney may be a great open field runner, but to get into the open field he's got to hit the line. He doesn't do that. This IS the NFL, not college.


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McFadden runs for a 73 yard touchdown and surpasses LoMo's season TD output and carreer long. Man this guy is good!
 
How does me comparing Maroney to Morris have anything to do with Addai? Last time I checked, I never once said Morris was better than Addain. Because he is NOT. Just like Maroney is NOT. Anyone who cannot see that is just not paying attention. YPC is OVERRATED. You think Brady would have 61 TDs without Moss? No. You think Brady would have a 131 QB rating if he was playing on Detroit? No. Guess what? You can't just throw one stat out there and say that is the reason why so and so is better than so and so. Use your eyes. I always thought and still think Brady is better than Manning. I didn't need this year's off the charts stats to convince me of that. Did you? When I watch Addai run I see a running back that can do it all. Hell, Rodney Harrison even said this guy is one of the top 3 backs in the league. The kid can run it inside, outside, catch the ball, get the tough yards, etc.... Sorry, that's what I see and it's pretty obvious. When I watch LT run I see a GREAT running back. I don't think he sucks because he has a 4.0 YPC this year. I've watched Maroney play 22 games. I have seen NOTHING in any of the games since last year in Cincinnati that he has made me say "Wow, this kid has some special skills". I've watched Addai play plenty of times and I think the kid is a top 5 back in this league. When I watch Adrian Peterson, my jaw drops. When I watch Marion Barber run, I say this kid is a TOUGH SOB. When I watch LoMo run, I yawn.

So gaining yards is not an important function of a running back?

Interesting.
 
Maroney may be a great open field runner, but to get into the open field he's got to hit the line. He doesn't do that.

Yes he does - so there's that. You guys seem to be fixated on the fantasy that good running backs hit the line and get 7-8 yards every team. There's a lot that goes into that - the RB himself, the OL, the defense, the playcalling, etc. Watching LoMar, even and ESPECIALLY this season, and looking at the results when he has carried the ball, for the most part he gashes through the line, inside the tackles, very well, which is why he has such a solid ypc average.

Would I like him to be more consistent? Sure. Do I think anytime he's hit at the LOS or behind that it's his fault? No. Is it sometimes? Yep. No problem admitting that. YOU guys, OTOH, think this: He stinks. He's injured all the time and he always dances behind the line.

It's an asinine argument and you're losing it, left and right.
 
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You mean protecting the ball on a kick-off return is not important?
I'm confused.

It's one of those unimportant things, like having a good YPC average when you're used sparingly on a team that prefers to pass because they average 40 points a game.
 
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It's one of those unimportant things, like having a good YPC average when you're used sparingly on a team that prefers to pass because they average 40 points a game.

No, but some guys just aren't made for kickoff returns. Kevin Faulk is one of those guys. Does Kevin Faulk suck because he fumbles every now and then? No. He's still a great 3rd down back. Go to the Arkansas message board on rivals. They all say that McFadden only fumbles on kick returns and shouldn't be on kick returns anyway.
 
Mike Reiss calls Maroney Dissapointing

Funny that people posted the article where Reiss defended Maroney's play against the Bills, but conveniently left out the section in Reiss's mailbag where he calls Maroney "slightly dissapointing" and is starting to lean towards taking the word "slightly" out of the sentence. Here is the link and quote:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extras/askreiss/11_20_07/?page=2

What's the deal with Maroney? I've been behind him since they drafted him and have always said to people who want to write him off that his time will come. Well, after the Bills game, I have started to wonder. He looked great early, especially on his TD run, then it seemed he was back to his indecision hitting the hole and dancing around. By the time he left the game, it was like he never even played. I think the guy has worlds of talent, but he needs to run with more authority. Your thoughts?
Craig F., San Diego, Calif.

A: "I feel as if your thoughts reflect mine. I have deflected criticism of Maroney to this point, noting that his health has been a factor in his performance at times and that rookies sometimes take longer to develop, but it is getting harder and harder to go that route with him. I said last week he has been "slightly disappointing" to this point, and I'm leaning more and more toward taking the word "slightly" out of that sentence. He isn't as decisive in his cuts and running, and while sometimes there might be nothing there due to the blocking, it seems as if Maroney could make more out of some of those situations. I'm also curious if he's checking out well in pass protection, because I have questions about the last snap in which he was on the field - that first-and-10 play from the Buffalo 11 in which he blocked inside when there were two rushers coming from the outside - leaving only Matt Light and Kyle Brady to block them. I still think Maroney has the talent to be a star - last year's Bengals game comes to mind - but it just hasn't happened consistently enough to this point." - Mike Reiss
 
No, but some guys just aren't made for kickoff returns. Kevin Faulk is one of those guys. Does Kevin Faulk suck because he fumbles every now and then? No. He's still a great 3rd down back. Go to the Arkansas message board on rivals. They all say that McFadden only fumbles on kick returns and shouldn't be on kick returns anyway.

I see. So fumbling doesn't matter because it's on a kickoff.

Kevin Faulk did suck when he was fumbling too much. Even this year, his ball security is better.

When McF fumbles during a game, you're going to say fumbling on Saturday is no indication of fumbling on Sunday because it's a different day.
 
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and today mcdaniels is happy with maroney .
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Can you comment on Laurence Maroney a little bit? He has high expectations being a first-round pick and some people might look at Joseph Addai in Indianapolis – and his production – and think Maroney might be a little bit of a disappointment. Do you see it that way?
“I don’t see it that way. We have the same expectations for Laurence. I would say Laurence’s role is determined on a weekly basis, much the same way the rest of our skill players are. If it’s a game where he should carry it 25 times or more, or less, than that’s what it’s going to be. If it’s more of a passing game, a play-action game, then he may not touch the ball quite as many times in the running game. We kind of let that play out. …”

Have you seen enough from him that if you do get into a 25-carry game for him, that you feel confident he would be able to answer that?
“Yeah, I think Laurence has played well. Just like everybody, there are things all of our players could do better. But I think Laurence is playing well. I think maybe the amount of time he’s played in certain games may make it seem like it’s not the case. But it is. He’s being productive when he’s in there. He had the foot come up last week, and he should be fine now. That was a reason why maybe he didn’t get as many snaps in the Buffalo game. When he’s in there, we’re happy with him. He’s doing his job. He’s also doing a good job in pass protection, which is something that for a rookie back last year was a significant point of emphasis coming into this season. He’s really stepped it up in that aspect too.”
 
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I see. So fumbling doesn't matter because it's on a kickoff.

Kevin Faulk did suck when he was fumbling too much. Even this year, his ball security is better.

When McF fumbles during a game, you're going to say fumbling on Saturday is no indication of fumbling on Sunday because it's a different day.

Ok, so when he runs for TDS that doesn't mean squat because it's college and not the NFL. However, when he fumbles the ball running kickoffs(which he won't do in the NFL), than that is an indication he will fumble RUNNING the ball in the NFL? Yup, nice work professor.
 
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Ummm, and what do you expect him to say? When has a coach EVER badmouthed a player on this team? They never do.

"Maybe Larry Johnson should take the diapers off."

 
Ok, so when he runs for TDS that doesn't mean squat because it's college and not the NFL. However, when he fumbles the ball running kickoffs(which he won't do in the NFL), than that is an indication he will fumble RUNNING the ball in the NFL? Yup, nice work professor.

Doesn't mean much when he's playing against college defenses and he's fumbled twice already.
 
Ok, so when he runs for TDS that doesn't mean squat because it's college and not the NFL. However, when he fumbles the ball running kickoffs(which he won't do in the NFL), than that is an indication he will fumble RUNNING the ball in the NFL? Yup, nice work professor.

I'm sorry, I missed that. Does he use different hands for kickoffs?
 
Pretty clear that Maroney is better then Barry Sanders. Thats what some posters in this thread would lead you to believe anyway.

 
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Larry Johnson plays for the Pats? LOL!

Of course they're not going to call him out to the press, but they're also not going to praise his efforts if they feel he isn't earning the praise.
 
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Do coaches not bad mouth their players or not?
Don't back track or anything dumb ass.

Why don't you address what your boy Mike Reiss said above? Your boy thinks Maroney is dissapointing too. Address that.
 
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