Patriots Training Camp - Monday August 1st

[jah]

Knowing the name of the plays is not important to other teams? Ok

Do you seriously think this isn't an issue every time any team practices or plays in front of the public? If you hold it at the perfect angle, all the expensive cameras you're completely surrounded by won't pick anything up? Wait until you hear about lip reading too.

 

[Zuma]

Do you seriously think this isn't an issue every time the team practices or plays in front of the public? If you hold it at the perfect angle, all the expensive cameras you're completely surrounded by won't pick anything up? Wait until you hear about lip reading too.

I seriously think a camera 50 yards away is slightly different then a camera 5 feet away.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

How do they account for that ?

It’s a ruse, this is the fake play sheet that they *want* to be leaked!

 

[PatsFan2]

The TE can't help too much as they need HH and Jonnu to run routes, catch balls and make plays

Definitely I meant on occasions.

 

[jimnance]

How? He couldn't hold up and set the edge at around 240.

Pats need him to passrush and be decent in coverage- those are bigger needs than just setting the edge. I think the Pats are hoping that can use him at both olb and ilb spots and provide some needed speed in the front 7.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Pats need him to passrush and be decent in coverage- those are bigger needs than just setting the edge. I think the Pats are hoping that can use him at both olb and ilb spots and provide some needed speed in the front 7.

Yup.

He is not going to set the edge. Full stop.

At this point if he can give them a speed rush in obvious passing/blitzing downs that would be fine.

 

[rochrist]

I seriously think a camera 50 yards away is slightly different then a camera 5 feet away.

Not really with today's digital cameras.

 

[Zuma]

Not really with today's digital cameras.

You can read it from a spy satellite 80 miles up...with enough effort and $. Reading it from 5 feet away is easier.

 

[TommyD4207]

You can read it from a spy satellite 80 miles up...with enough effort and $. Reading it from 5 feet away is easier.

Every team knows the name of every play on every team. There really isn't as much variation as you think. It's about what plays that get called at what time.

 

[Sicilian]

This is still disturbing me...waving the plays around for the whole world to see...or am I wrong?

I think the key to your question is in what Joe Judge actually said during the interview. Paraphrasing: "It's the first day for us in pads, which is really the start of football. That's why it's important to keep it simple, make it a fundamentals day."

My guess is, whatever is actually on that sheet, it's a barebones list of concepts they want to work on for the day, not the final playcalls for the games.

 

[Ring 6]

Knowing the name of the plays is not important to other teams? Ok

Not really.

 

[Zuma]

 

[ashley]

 

[Zuma]

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Bedard on the first attempts at outside zone runs:

[T]he first 11-on-11 run/short passing game period and ... well, there's nowhere to go but up. I'm not going to sugarcoat this. That period of offensive football was atrocious, among the worst I've seen in my time covering the league

 

[SHOWTIME15]

According to Reiss, Cole Strange struggled a bit today, but most of his reps were against Barmore it would seem. So that might be just Barmore being a beast. Also, Thornton impressed.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

From last night ...

One guy I'm pumped for is Rham. I absolutely love Harris. He's one of my favorite players in the league. If he was given 300+ touches a year he'd be 1400/10/4.5 guy. Rham looks like a beast though. He lost weight and looks like he's been putting in the work. Supposedly he's got first team reps and has been getting work in the backfield. Really hoping that translates bc along with pass pro improvement would help separate himself as a real RB1. I really hope we give him some option routes in the MOF. He has some shake to him. Definitely getting more touches though. We have some real talent in that RB room.

Supposedly Agholor and Barmore have been looking well too. Barmore physically and Agholor on the field.


Rham looks good! Looks about 220-225. Think there's a real possibility he's a legit RB1B by seasons end. Him and Barmore look noticeably different - in a good way.




As does Mac



Gets me ...

 

[Sicilian]

Bedard on the first attempts at outside zone runs:

I'll be curious to hear this in more detail on his podcast. Was it sloppiness, etc, that can only be offensive failures? Or was the defense just winning their battles (which is more ambiguous)?

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Pats need him to passrush and be decent in coverage- those are bigger needs than just setting the edge. I think the Pats are hoping that can use him at both olb and ilb spots and provide some needed speed in the front 7.

he already had enough speed at 240 imo. He was easily our most athletic LB last season and did not play ILB or in coverage much. Maybe he will get there but i doubt it at this point. He did not make the jump i expected tbh

 

[RobertWeathers]

According to Reiss, Cole Strange struggled a bit today, but most of his reps were against Barmore it would seem. That's because Barmore is a beast. Also, Thornton impressed.

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