Major Gillette renovations planned

[ralmat55]

Kraft also received stadium credits where he was able to keep some gate receipts to pay for Gillette which normally would be shared with the league.

Might explain why he’s always so concerned about the “other 31”.

 

[Pape]

And Pats fans have been reimbursing Bob at a hefty premium ever since.

Fun with math

Gillette Stadium is 20 yrs old (19 seasons with in-stadium fans for Pats games)
8 regular season Pats home games x 19 seasons = 152 games
152 games X 65,878 tickets/game = 10,013,456 admissions
In 2021, the NEP charged $125 more per average Pats ticket ($245 average) than the #10 highest priced team ($120) and even more than the median priced NFL ticket

Note: NEP's have consistently been top 3 and more often than not highest priced ticket in NFL (not to mention concessions and parking)

For this exercise, I am reducing price/ticket above NFL median price over past 20 years to +$100

10,013,456 x $100 = $1,001,345,600 additional revenue above median ticket prices (conservative math based on only 8 stadium events each year)

Note 2.0: Not including preseason tickets, concerts, soccer, NCAA football, lacrosse, special events, World Cup, etc
Note 3.0: Not including parking $$$, luxury suites, promotional endeavors, concessions including $5 cups of tap water
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Can't fault Bob for charging highest prices, his product has been tremendous.
And Bob, like every owner who personally funded their stadium, has created tremendous franchise value compared to teams with municipal stadiums.
And frankly, Bob has been slow to maximize value by not expanding seating (average NFL capacity is 70,000)

Note 4.0: Reportedly, NEP have been middle of the pack in actually $$$ spent on roster this past decade
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Conclusion:
Gillette is a massive cash cow

Just remember he keeps only 60% of the ticket sales... 40% is part of the NFL revenue sharing plan...

 

[Patsgofor4]

I started this thread but stopped caring about the renovation shortly after it became clear that it would not lead to any competitive advantage for the Pats. The main goal, other than adding to the drinking and eating options, is to allow the well-heeled customers to walk around the entire stadium without having to go outside. In fact, it may negate one potential advantage of the dumb lighthouse end, because opposing kickers will no longer have to battle the wind currents on windy days. I could give two sh*ts about aesthetics or how many beer options are available and that end zone bar is an absolute abomination. I still can’t believe that Kraft removed stands from one end zone in order to build an open air bar. He got a pass because the team was a wagon every year.

When they designed Gillette, Krafty Bob clearly gave no f*cks about acoustics and how a stadium’s architecture can augment crowd noise. I have attended many games since the stadium opened, including all but two of the playoff games and I can only remember a handful of games during which I said to myself “This place is LOUD today/tonight” (the “We’re on to Cincinnati” night game what is a memorable regular season game in that regard). A lot of that is the fans in attendance, but stadium design can make a huge difference….CenturyLink Stadium in Seattle, for instance.

https://www.insidescience.org/news/stadium-acoustics-pump-volumeWhile most North

American stadiums are open to the sky, having a roof can help amp up the noise in the stands. European soccer stadiums all have partial roofs, which helps keep noise levels up. At the Seattle Seahawks' CenturyLink Stadium the large overhanging roof reflects noise down towards the stands, and has helped the fans there – collectively and officially known as the 12th man – set the Guinness World Record for crowd noise, at an astounding 137.6 dBA, a decibel scale that accounts for how sensitive the human hearing system is to different sound frequencies.

Those of you who have attended a game at the current Bronco stadium likely noticed that the “floor” in the stands is metal and slightly raised above the concrete beneath it, such that significant noise is created when the crowd stamps their feet during few moments

The first thing Bobby should’ve done when stadium planning began is hire some professors from MIT and Cal Tech and have them work with the lead architect to come up with a design which would offer maximum noise amplification (for an outdoor stadium).

 

[Nunchucks]

The optimum club is a joke, when I saw that I could pay like 2k more to be able to go down there, I laughed....people do it though

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[PatsWSB47]

Bad move. Its kind of like tearing down the Bunker Hill Monument. The lighthouse represented Gillette to me. Should have at least saved it and moved it to a spot around the stadium. I'll get over it but it sucks

 

[Zuma]

I haven’t seen the plans recently but I remember seeing a new lighthouse there…maybe I am wrong.

 

[Pape]

Bad move. Its kind of like tearing down the Bunker Hill Monument. The lighthouse represented Gillette to me. Should have at least saved it and moved it to a spot around the stadium. I'll get over it but it sucks

I haven’t seen the plans recently but I remember seeing a new lighthouse there…maybe I am wrong.

the renderings show a new one, with a functional lighthouse? , with an observation deck

 

[XLIX]

And Pats fans have been reimbursing Bob at a hefty premium ever since.

Fun with math

Gillette Stadium is 20 yrs old (19 seasons with in-stadium fans for Pats games)
8 regular season Pats home games x 19 seasons = 152 games
152 games X 65,878 tickets/game = 10,013,456 admissions
In 2021, the NEP charged $125 more per average Pats ticket ($245 average) than the #10 highest priced team ($120) and even more than the median priced NFL ticket

I would be very interested to see the source of that last statement because, as you may or may not be aware, that clearly includes club/luxury seating in the average. I do not know what the average is for general admission, but the most expensive is something like $179 so the average is probably about half that amount.

Oh and by the way, most other places charge huge PSL fees.

 

[PatsWSB47]

the renderings show a new one, with a functional lighthouse? , with an observation deck

Nice to know. Still personally I'd prefer the original. I know it's not Fenway....yet but I wouldn't like the green monster torn down and remade

 

[Pape]

Nice to know. Still personally I'd prefer the original. I know it's not Fenway....yet but I wouldn't like the green monster torn down and remade

yeah i get that sentiment... but I always wondered why they didnt have an actual light in the lighthouse... thought it was a cheap looking...

look forward to seeing the new one

 

[Zuma]

The new lighthouse should be an actual working lighthouse…just much smaller. Kind of like Stonehenge in This is Spinal Tap.

 

[Patsgofor4]

I would be very interested to see the source of that last statement because, as you may or may not be aware, that clearly includes club/luxury seating in the average. I do not know what the average is for general admission, but the most expensive is something like $179 so the average is probably about half that amount.

Oh and by the way, most other places charge huge PSL fees.

Tickets in the 100 sections are now more than $200 per game for many regular season games, sometimes more than $250, depending upon the opponent (variable pricing). I would several regular season games before COVID (only two last year) and always sit in section 114.

 

[XLIX]

Tickets in the 100 sections are now more than $200 per game for many regular season games, sometimes more than $250, depending upon the opponent (variable pricing). I would several regular season games before COVID (only two last year) and always sit in section 114.

If you want to play that game, then the same variable pricing creates games where those seats cost below $100 for other games. So the overall average for a season package is still ~$189 per game per seat in the most expensive non-luxury/club section (or something very close to that number.... I haven't seen the 2022 data yet). So to tell us the average of the whole stadium is $250 is highly misleading.

Something tells me that the "fun with math" post is comparing the Patriots average with club seats to other teams' average without.

 

[fourhour]

Since this is about the stadium upgrades may I interject something here so hopefully the powers that be take notice?

Traveling I-495 the Gillette Stadium exit signs could also use some upgrading. The "Home of Patriots Place" is barely to not visible on the signs as it has faded away.

And why aren't there some huge signs indicating the stadiums accessibility instead of those 4' X 4' ones? Surely the organization can afford them.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Just heard on Patriots Unfiltered podcast (Fred Kirsch) that major Gillette renovations at North end (open end with lighthouse) will start this off-season. Will take up to two years to fully complete and will cause disruptions (fewer entree
and exit options). That end will be closed in.....they must have finally listened to me because I have been complaining for years about the loss of crowd noise because of the open end. The bridge will remain.

Fred didn't say whether the Pats would be adding more seats or more clubs/dining, or both. Knowing Kraft, they will be adding whatever makes him more money, even if it does not add to home field advantage/crowd noise.

Never heard on Patriots Unfiltered podcast (Fred Kirsch) that major logo & uniform restorations will start this off-season. Will take up to two years to fully complete and will cause disruptions for flying elvis/Bledsoe worshippers. To spare their hurt feelings there should be exit options to another AFC East team. They must have finally listened to me because I have been complaining for years about the loss of class, professional appearance and real Patriots fans' loss of appetite and the will to live because of the abhorrent, sick sad replacement perpetrated in 1993. The Lombardi trophies will remain.

Didn't hear whether the Pats would be adding more seats or more worthy/ignored/deceased alumni to the supposed team Hall of Fame. Knowing Kraft, they will be adding whatever makes him more money, even if it does not add to home field advantage/crowd noise.

 

[Gator Mike]

The lighthouse and scoreboard are down.

 

[signbabybrady]

The lighthouse and scoreboard are down.

Zero FGs to be had on the open end now.

 

[Gator Mike]

 

[WinstonSmith]

I haven't been keeping up with this, and not to be the guy who complains about a new nice thing, but...I was expecting it to be a little taller. It's certainly fat enough. If the jumbotron were an actor it would be Danny Devito in his prime.