NFL Free Agency 2022 edition

[venecol]

Dolphins and Bills have way more top talent players under contract in 2023 than the Pats do so they won't need to find expensive FAs as much as the Pats will.

Anyway, this thread is about 2022 Free Agency not 2023. Are we giving up on this season?

 

[DaBruinz]

You say that 20% of the cap is somehow reasonable for QB's.

1) Please list all the SB winning teams that were spending more than 20% of the cap on their quarterback.

2) over 15%.

I don't know of one that was spending 20% (or more).
As for 15%, Considering that the Cap changes on a regular bases, there were QBs who's cap number did exceed 15%, though not the year they won a SB. Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberher, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco.

The highest that Brady's contract was at was 13.6% in 2006.

There will be numerous QBs taking up 15%-25% of their teams Salary cap going forward. Whether or not they win anything will remain to be seen..

 

[mgteich]

I don't know of one that was spending 20% (or more).
As for 15%, Considering that the Cap changes on a regular bases, there were QBs who's cap number did exceed 15%, though not the year they won a SB. Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberher, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco.

The highest that Brady's contract was at was 13.6% in 2006.

There will be numerous QBs taking up 15%-25% of their teams Salary cap going forward. Whether or not they win anything will remain to be seen..

As the cap goes up, do you think that the QB position should take up a higher percentage? If so, why?

 

[PaulThePat]

Having Mac Jones as your QB is not a drawing card for top WR's

So what's your plan?

 

[PaulThePat]

Scantling sounds like a JAG. No loss.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

You say that 20% of the cap is somehow reasonable for QB's.

1) Please list all the SB winning teams that were spending more than 20% of the cap on their quarterback.

2) over 15%.

I didn’t say 20% was reasonable. I said it was consistent. Point is that there’s no change in teams’ overall calculus for QB compared to the past. But there has been a change in the WR calculus.

Whether or not the current strategy is actually successful isn’t my point, the point is that teams currently do think it works.

Edit — i’m seeing the tables now based on @DaBruinz post, and it looks like you’re right. The top end QBs 5-10 years ago were 15% of the cap, not 20%. Looks like the highest ever was Eli in 2013 at 16.9%. For some reason I had thought it was 20%. So I take back my point, QBs have gone up too, I was wrong.

And I guess to the overall question of whether it’ll work? Well, if the top end talent doesn’t get hurt and plays to their capabilities, and the team knocks its draft out of the park for a couple of years straight to get cheap talent, it can work. Seems like a risky strategy as the odds of all that happening appear low, but it could happen.

 

[Guts]

Bears going to the Superbowl

 

[PatsFan2]

Dolphins and Bills have way more top talent players under contract in 2023 than the Pats do so they won't need to find expensive FAs as much as the Pats will.

Anyway, this thread is about 2022 Free Agency not 2023. Are we giving up on this season?

Those other Teams have a Three year competitive plan too they ain't going anywhere and Mac ain't the best QB in the AFC young or old. This was a Better FA year for WR's and we passed on all of them because we're so great at Drafting them. I thought we would have signed a proven vet and bring a rookie along but I guess that proven vet is already on the roster.

 

[DaBruinz]

Well hopefully he does a better job than he did. Good to have J Jones back in the mix, a lot of people aren’t remembering he’s coming back. Defense would of been better last year with him in it.

It's been amazing just how big of a difference he makes. I mean, it was HUGE not having him in the SBN against Philly.. People make such a big deal about Butler, but forget that Jones was injured that game.. He was a much bigger issue than Butler.

 

[DaBruinz]

For a 3rd rd pick? No way in hell. If Mason jets you a 5, this cat gets you a 6th or a 7th.

It said Day 3 pick. Not 3rd round pick..

 

[Greg]

If OBJ goes back to Cleveland, who’s left? Jarvis Landry?

 

[DaBruinz]

It's hard for me to think that teams would've been willing to throw that kind of money at Agholor and Godchaux that we did. I could see why Jonnu got the money he did, hopefully he lives up to the potential now that he will probably be used more this season.

If MVS just got a $10M/yr deal with 18 guaranteed, Agholor would have gotten better. Saying otherwise is being ridiculously biased.

 

[DaBruinz]

And that's such a lame excuse. They took advantage of the pandemic market drop last year, and they were hailed as genius. So, now, we're giving them the out of "2 years in 1"? Pissing all your money away on questionable players in a year where you're obviously rebuilding, rather than keeping some money for the next year, is an epic fail.

Gotta love the Deus take.. ALL the players they signed were questionable signings...

HUH? Try looking at the contracts players got this year. OH. Wait. If you did that, you'd have to admit to being wrong. Something you absolutely refuse to do.

 

[DaBruinz]

The two top cap hits for Tight Ends are Hunter and Smith. Which is kinda gross.

They’ll also be second and third next year, unless something changes.

There will be a lot of changes between 2022 and 2023. Especially when you consider that there are 3 Franchise Tagged TEs.

Looking at "top cap" is ridiculous unless you're talking about new contracts. Hunter Henry more than proved that his contract was under-paid. And I expect him to do even better this year.

 

[venecol]

There are no true WR#1 left and best available are OBJ and AB. So unless the Pats bring in a WR#1 via trade (unlikely) they'll have to get one via the draft.

Given all the WR moves and high cost in the last 2 weeks, I expect WRs to be flying off the boards. This will make it riskier to pick a receiver beyond the first round. I was against picking one in the 1st round. Not so sure anymore.

 

[DaBruinz]

Very pricey:

Makes Agholor's contract look good.

It's also interesting that people ignore that the O-line wasn't giving Jones a ton of time to throw so it's hard to hit those deeper balls when you don't have time to launch it.

 

[DaBruinz]

I'm curious why people here give the Incarcerated Bob of the Pats beat the time of day? He's a wannabe with no sources or hook ins to the NFL let alone the Pats.

Best part is that the tweet was deleted..

 

[PatsFan2]

There are no true WR#1 left and best available are OBJ and AB. So unless the Pats bring in a WR#1 via trade (unlikely) they'll have to get one via the draft.

Given all the WR moves and high cost in the last 2 weeks, I expect WRs to be flying off the boards. This will make it riskier to pick a receiver beyond the first round. I was against picking one in the 1st round. Not so sure anymore.

Yep because the Hill and Adams move made some Teams WR needy. I like what KC did to offset losing hill they took a chance on a couple of guys not siting on their hands like the Patriots. There will be a Run on WR's will the Patriots draft the next Harry?? I say get a Bama guy even if you have to REACH for one or two odds are one will work out. I hope they don't Reach for a CB early on.

 

[DaBruinz]

You seem to be confusing trades and free agency

No. He's not confusing anything.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

If OBJ goes back to Cleveland, who’s left? Jarvis Landry?

N'Keal