J.C. Jackson - "It's time to get Mr. INT paid."

[ashley]

This is a great point. Bill knew JC was an UFA soon and the spending spree told us he doesn't plan on signing him.

Agholor, Godsmack, Wise, Smith and Mills were awful signings.

You're crazy about Mills.

 

[TheRainMaker]

You're crazy about Mills.

Lol. Not really.

 

[ashley]

Lol. Not really.

Yes, really

 

[Love The Drake]

Mills played very well.
At times he looked like our best man to man corner.

 

[ashley]

Mills played very well.
At times he looked like our best man to man corner.

Mills wasn't expected to come in and be our number 1 or 2 corner, he is more of a "jack of all trades" player....He was very good last year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just clueless.

 

[Since1960]

True, but Ty Law couldn't defend anyone in the AFC East during the Carrol years and had some bad years with Bill in 2000 and 2002.

I don’t see the Hall of Fame insight for “Mr INT”..

 

[Sciz]

It’s not uncommon for CBs to allow that many yards in a single game. Sometimes, such as in the case of Higgins vs Ramsey, we see that many yards on a single play.

 

[Triumph]

Goodbye JC.

No Tag.

 

[resdubwhite]

they could have very easily made the cap space available to tag him and have some dollars over for decent free agent acquisitions. The fact that they didn't certainly makes you wonder what is going to happen with Free agency and the draft. 3 more cheap years of mac makes you wonder. is 2022 another consolidation year and go for it next. Hard to know but the D needed some help and losing Jackson is the opposite of help.

 

[Rob0729]

they could have very easily made the cap space available to tag him and have some dollars over for decent free agent acquisitions. The fact that they didn't certainly makes you wonder what is going to happen with Free agency and the draft. 3 more cheap years of mac makes you wonder. is 2022 another consolidation year and go for it next. Hard to know but the D needed some help and losing Jackson is the opposite of help.

I don't think not tagging Jackson means that they are not going to spend in free agency. In fact, it COULD mean the opposite. If they tagged Jackson and couldn't trade him or negotiated a long term deal, he would eat up $17.4 million of cap space. With that cap space, they could sign 2-3 solid starters to long term deals.

If they don't think Jackson is worth the money, which is clear they don't, they are not going to tie up about 8% of the cap on him for a franchise tag. I don't think the decision was ever between franchising and keeping Jackson or letting him walk. It was most likely franchising and trading Jackson or letting him walk. They clearly don't feel he is worth Ramsey money. So he would likely play on the franchise tag if they kept him.

We have to see what the Pats do over the next week. They could very well move more money around by cutting players and redoing deals to free up cap space and then use the cap space they would have used on Jackson to franchise him to get a starting LB, WR, and DT.

 

[bresna]

By not tagging Jackson, the Patriots could receive a 3rd round comp pick if they don't sign any big name free agents. But if they had applied the non-exclusive franchise tag and he signed with another team, they could have received 2 first round draft picks from that team. Why didn't the Patriots do this with Jackson? Was it strictly due to the salary cap hit that they couldn't absorb right now?

 

[Sciz]

By not tagging Jackson, the Patriots could receive a 3rd round comp pick if they don't sign any big name free agents. But if they had applied the non-exclusive franchise tag and he signed with another team, they could have received 2 first round draft picks from that team. Why didn't the Patriots do this with Jackson? Was it strictly due to the salary cap hit that they couldn't absorb right now?

No team would have made him an offer if they had to give up two firsts in return.

 

[Triumph]

By not tagging Jackson, the Patriots could receive a 3rd round comp pick if they don't sign any big name free agents. But if they had applied the non-exclusive franchise tag and he signed with another team, they could have received 2 first round draft picks from that team. Why didn't the Patriots do this with Jackson? Was it strictly due to the salary cap hit that they couldn't absorb right now?

And part of the reason that NE cant absorb the Tag hit is that Agahlor is the 3rd highest player on the team.

 

[Triumph]

The 3rd compensatory pick for Jackson is iffy assuming NE signs new UFAs that are good.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

By not tagging Jackson, the Patriots could receive a 3rd round comp pick if they don't sign any big name free agents. But if they had applied the non-exclusive franchise tag and he signed with another team, they could have received 2 first round draft picks from that team. Why didn't the Patriots do this with Jackson? Was it strictly due to the salary cap hit that they couldn't absorb right now?

Because in the history of the franchise tag, nobody has signed a franchised player and given up 2 first rd picks. It wasn’t going to gappen

 

[Wozzy]

And part of the reason that NE cant absorb the Tag hit is that Agahlor is the 3rd highest player on the team.

Agholor is in the last year of his deal, they could trade him easily. They could extend him and lower his cap hit significantly. Not signing or tagging Jackson had zero to do with Nelson and everything to do with the mountain of money Jackson will receive on the open market which the Patriots would never match.

At some point paying top of the market money is overpaying. I like Jackson, very good player... he's not a shutdown CB who deserves shutdown CB money... he's simply not. The Patriots should clear up cap space and go after some value vet free agents to get younger on D rather than overpay for one "good" cornerback.

 

[Wozzy]

Mills wasn't expected to come in and be our number 1 or 2 corner, he is more of a "jack of all trades" player....He was very good last year. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just clueless.

Agreed. Mills played well, he also got a contract for 4 years at 24 million with only 9 of it guaranteed. A solid #2 CB making 5-6 million per season is reasonable.

There's also an "out" in his contract after this season, if he suddenly regresses they can cut him and only swallow a 1.2 million dead cap hit.

Patriots fans are the most depressed/repressed football fans on the planet.

Every Patriot's player except Brady sucks... every other team has all the best players... it's been that way for over two decades.

Take your meds people.

 

[Rob0729]

The thing is that even if the Pats get a decent #1 CB, with Jonathan Jones returning to be #2 and Mills moving to the slot which is more of his more natural position, the CB corp could be overall better than it was last year even without Jackson. They might see a significant downgrade at the #1 CB spot, but they will have upgraded the other two CB positions and the Pats play with a lot of 3 CB formations.

 

[slash83]

The thing is that even if the Pats get a decent #1 CB, with Jonathan Jones returning to be #2 and Mills moving to the slot which is more of his more natural position, the CB corp could be overall better than it was last year even without Jackson. They might see a significant downgrade at the #1 CB spot, but they will have upgraded the other two CB positions and the Pats play with a lot of 3 CB formations.

Jones is a slot guy, not an outside corner. Putting him on the outside is taking away what he does best.

 

[Rob0729]

Jones is a slot guy, not an outside corner. Putting him on the outside is taking away what he does best.

I guess that is true. Scratch that then. He does still upgrade the starting CB corp, but the #2 spot would stay the same.