Tom Brady Retires (Update: Shouts out to Pats players, coaches on social media)

[SHOWTIME15]

Brady was down 27 to 3 with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter vs the Rams...yeah, coaching was the problem. Rams fumbled the ball 3 times after that, which allowed Tampa to get back in the game.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Hard to say. The defense got him 4 fumbles that helped jump start the comeback. On the first play of the last drive they blitzed and caused Stafford to fumble but he fell on it. They live and die by the blitz. I really doubt one game made him decide he didn't like the coaching staff considering they helped him put up the best back-to-back seasons of his career and also shut down Mahomes in the SB in the process.

I don’t think the coaching staff has a lot to do about his two best season. In fact the Bucs started to click last year when they start to basically do what Brady was asking.

Bowles defense has been bad all season. Bowles gameplan have been putrid all season. The SB was the best game Bowles had in his career. It was a one off. It went against everything Bowles believes in. He only blitzes like 5 times all Super Bowl. The D gave him 4 fumbles but what a way to screw everything up by calling a stupid cover 0 blitz. All he had to do is keep everything in front of him and not let Kupp beat him.

 

[203Pat]

I am 100% with you but define backward becaus if Brady wants to play one more year I think they can have back Godwin, Gronk and Fournette but it would need another HC.

When he sign his two years extension, he was fully committed to play in 2022 but he saw this year how much of a moron is Arians. If Brady was a free agent now, he would definitely play elsewhere in my opinion. But he can’t now unless he can convince the Bucs to trade or cut him.

I'm with you that I think a large part of why he is going to hang them up is due to Arians. It can't be easy to go from 20 years of structure and extreme attention to detail to "durr no risk it no biscuit". Lesean McCoy was on the I Am Athlete podcast the other day and talked about how last season wasn't going the way they all expected then during the bye Brady met with the coaches and they started to implement the Brady offense into Arians'. To most people with a brain that means Brady took over the show and we saw what happened there.

 

[203Pat]

I absolutely believe that Brady is fed up with Arians but it’s incredibly dumb to just blame that blitz at the end of the Rams game cost him a Super Bowl. First of all the game was tied. Who knows what happens in OT. Second there are two more games and the Bucs are banged up on offense pretty bad and their best offensive lineman was way more hurt than they let on since he immediately went and had surgery after the loss.

I don’t think it was just that specific play from that game. I think it is two years of dealing with a dimwit for a head coach and not wanting to do it anymore. Not necessarily a "grass is always greener" but maybe some shades of that.

 

[amfootball]

I don’t think the coaching staff has a lot to do about his two best season. In fact the Bucs started to click last year when they start to basically do what Brady was asking.

Bowles defense has been bad all season. Bowles gameplan have been putrid all season. The SB was the best game Bowles had in his career. It was a one off. It went against everything Bowles believes in. He only blitzes like 5 times all Super Bowl. The D gave him 4 fumbles but what a way to screw everything up by calling a stupid cover 0 blitz. All he had to do is keep everything in front of him and not let Kupp beat him.

The Bucs did everything for Brady - got him his guys - Gronk, AB, Fournette. Resigned all 22 starters last year - only team to ever do that and that includes pre-cap SB teams. I mean this narrative of blaming Tampa just seems like excuse making. They gave Brady a fully guaranteed contract at age 43 when Bill kicked him to the curb to save pennies on the dollar. I am not sure how anything is Tampa's fault especially considering they are waiting right now to see what Brady wants to do. If he wants Arians gone, Licht will fire him. I mean there is literally nothing holding Brady back from playing in terms of Tampa.

 

[VectorPrime]

It’s just weird how people compare the Bucs losing to the Bills losing. Bucs were tied and the Rams had like 35 seconds to try and win via field goal. The Bills were winning and the Chiefs had only 13 seconds.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

The Bucs did everything for Brady - got him his guys - Gronk, AB, Fournette. Resigned all 22 starters last year - only team to ever do that and that includes pre-cap SB teams. I mean this narrative of blaming Tampa just seems like excuse making. They gave Brady a fully guaranteed contract at age 43 when Bill kicked him to the curb to save pennies on the dollar. I am not sure how anything is Tampa's fault especially considering they are waiting right now to see what Brady wants to do. If he wants Arians gone, Licht will fire him. I mean there is literally nothing holding Brady back from playing in terms of Tampa.

That’s where I disagree with you I don’t think licht will fire Arians.

 

[amfootball]

That’s where I disagree with you I don’t think licht will fire Arians.

Why? He has done everything single thing Brady has wanted for 2 years. The Bucs desperately want him back. The call is Brady's and Brady's alone. Nothing is holding him back if he wants to play.

 

[203Pat]

That’s where I disagree with you I don’t think licht will fire Arians.

I think that would be a very bad look for Brady. I can't imagine it would come to that and I would assume Arians would "retire" if they could get that blowhard to shut up about it.

 

[Bill Lee]

Hard to say. The defense got him 4 fumbles that helped jump start the comeback. On the first play of the last drive they blitzed and caused Stafford to fumble but he fell on it. They live and die by the blitz. I really doubt one game made him decide he didn't like the coaching staff considering they helped him put up the best back-to-back seasons of his career and also shut down Mahomes in the SB in the process.

Brady was down 27 to 3 with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter vs the Rams...yeah, coaching was the problem. Rams fumbled the ball 3 times after that, which allowed Tampa to get back in the game.

Yeah, and then there's that pick that Brady threw in the 4th quarter...

I get it, he's the GOAT, but he's not perfect and no one plays forever.

He seemed to be pissed off most of the game, although no Microsoft Surfaces were sacrificed. Why stick around when the game is no fun any more and he has all the money he needs and what seems to be a really nice family life? At some point it's just time to do something else.

Personally I think it's abundantly clear he feels that time is now and it'd be all over already if the announcement wasn't leaked. I can't see any sane person putting out that statement about how his wife and family needs him then turns his back on them and goes back into the grind of a NFL season.

Why? He has done everything single thing Brady has wanted for 2 years. The Bucs desperately want him back. The call is Brady's and Brady's alone. Nothing is holding him back if he wants to play.

The Bucs don't just want him back, they bleeping need him back!

Without him, they end up with a smoking hole in their cap and needing to find a plausible starting QB in draft or FA.

This is pretty much where we were in 2020 and it's what led to the Cam Newton (ugh) year.

Yet it won't matter much around here, the site members who are Team Tom are already throwing away their Tampa garb and pretending it didn't happen.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Why? He has done everything single thing Brady has wanted for 2 years. The Bucs desperately want him back. The call is Brady's and Brady's alone. Nothing is holding him back if he wants to play.

That’s not completely true. They trade for Gronk and sign Fournette that’s it. They didn’t want AB. They signed him because Evans and Godwin were banged up. They didn’t resign all 22 starter for Brady. They did for themselves because they saw an opportunity to win another ring.

they waited 13 weeks in 2020 before doing what Brady was asking.

Brady is a class act and will never ask for a coach to be fired. I am 100% convinced that if he was a free agent now there would 0 talk about retirement. When he sign his 2 year extension you can clearly see that the way it is structured tells you that Brady was commited to 2022. What has changed? Brady had an awakening this year and saw finally how much of moron Arians is and he prefers to retire than playing for him.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Yeah, and then there's that pick that Brady threw in the 4th quarter

Brady didn’t throw a pick in the 4th quarter. It was before the half.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Why? He has done everything single thing Brady has wanted for 2 years. The Bucs desperately want him back. The call is Brady's and Brady's alone. Nothing is holding him back if he wants to play.

It won't happen imo.

TB would look very bad if they fired a coach who just won a SB. And nearly made another title game full of injuries.

I can't see Brady giving an ultimatum to the GM.

Brady either retires or works with Arians.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

 

[jal]

I doubt his wanting to retire has anything to do with the Bucs, who have bent over backwards to fuel this run. Maybe if the Bucs coaches were better and they were luckier with injuries this year he might decide "this is too fun I have to run it back one more year" but that's splitting hairs. He clearly just feels satisfied enough with football that he has decided he wants to spend more time with his family. I hope he doesn't pull a Jordan and come back a year (or 2) too late into a bad situation. He couldn't have asked for a better capstone to his career than he got in Tampa.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Get lost troll

 

[NFL Mystique]

Obviously the greatest Patriot ever.

Greatest Boston athlete?

Your talking Orr, Williams, and Russell. Those are legends of their respective sport too.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

I doubt his wanting to retire has anything to do with the Bucs, who have bent over backwards to fuel this run. Maybe if the Bucs coaches were better and they were luckier with injuries this year he might decide "this is too fun I have to run it back one more year" but that's splitting hairs. He clearly just feels satisfied enough with football that he has decided he wants to spend more time with his family. I hope he doesn't pull a Jordan and come back a year (or 2) too late into a bad situation. He couldn't have asked for a better capstone to his career than he got in Tampa.

I think the AB situation has to be a factor.. he's done a lot for this guy, and now this? With the Bucs losing guys, does he want to stick with the team if they're not TRUE super bowl contenders anymore? With the family pressure, I think this is his mindset.

 

[Guts]

He has his podcast today so I wonder if he clears things up

 

[Ross12]

Looking back on it, he had “angry Tom” face when Kupp caught that deep bomb to pretty much seal the game. I remember thinking he must’ve been mad his season is over, but perhaps he might have been mad about more than that.