Who will be the new OC?

[Steve102]

I'd like to see them go out of house for someone like O'shea. My guess, however, is that it's Mick Lombardi or Bo Hardegree. Continuity.

 

[signbabybrady]

"Getting loud and in your face" due to a lack of influencing skills is not the equivalent of tough coaching. It is a mirage that experienced, confident veteran players resent.

I'm sure he made it this far with a complete lack of influencing skills. If you think he's to strict for today's kids or whatever fine but I'm sure he has plenty of "influencing skills."

 

[Scotty]

You can't even @ him, so it's possible he got banned. @RobertWeathers

I believe in another thread Ian explained he has been given a 7 day suspension

 

[BTTA]

I'm sure he made it this far with a complete lack of influencing skills. If you think he's to strict for today's kids or whatever fine but I'm sure he has plenty of "influencing skills."

"Strict" and "screaming and cursing at people" as a default way of addressing urgency and tension" are not equivalent.
"My way of the highway and I'm not interested in your opinion about that" is not an influencing skill.

 

[upstater1]

Methinks perhaps that you listen to too much sportstalk radio, and would guess the Bertram and Felger are your 2 favorite radio "personalities". Bertram and Felger make their best efforts to "gin up" controversy whenever they can, many listeners like that.

FYI Bill is smarter than most as is Patricia.. we are lucky to have them. Mr. Kraft is no slouch either...

To illustrate the "intelligence" or lack thereof of sportstalk radio, last week Bertram was pontificating about how Gisele did not like Boston or Tampa as she would prefer Miami and NYC for the "glitz" factor.. he went on and on about what Gisele was probably thinking(???). What is becoming the norm, rather than the exception I went immediately to Pandora..

She hated Boston so much she decided to build a $30 million house in Brookline.

 

[jdlboot14]

I really believe Matty P will become the executive personnel guy. I have no idea how that will work, but maybe his smarts can be used to find a WR for the first time in Patriot history. Either way, the succession plan might come through GM experience first. It seems Mayo isn't getting a HC this year, so he should get a shot at official DC. Then, I'd like to see O'Shea or Schuplinski come back as OC - above BOB or Gase.

 

[masterbouncer]

I really believe Matty P will become the executive personnel guy. I have no idea how that will work, but maybe his smarts can be used to find a WR for the first time in Patriot history. Either way, the succession plan might come through GM experience first. It seems Mayo isn't getting a HC this year, so he should get a shot at official DC. Then, I'd like to see O'Shea or Schuplinski come back as OC - above BOB or Gase.

I hope not regarding Mat P, looking back at his drafts in Detriot he didn't fare too well...

 

[203Pat]

I hope this doesn't turn into the DC situation where we have no official coordinator and everyone gets to guess who is calling the plays.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

BOB would seem to be such an obvious choice. Further entrenching the Bama to NE pipeline.

Then draft Williams and Metchie.

 

[PatsFan2]

Rumors are he’s banned? Crappy timing all things considered.

Oh C'mon he an informative poster.

 

[Wordsmyth]

I believe in another thread Ian explained he has been given a 7 day suspension

Seven days of peace, sanity, and quiet.

 

[*ChungFu*]

I really believe Matty P will become the executive personnel guy. I have no idea how that will work, but maybe his smarts can be used to find a WR for the first time in Patriot history. Either way, the succession plan might come through GM experience first. It seems Mayo isn't getting a HC this year, so he should get a shot at official DC. Then, I'd like to see O'Shea or Schuplinski come back as OC - above BOB or Gase.

I hope you are wrong on Matty P.
Wolf is probably a better choice.
I agree on O'Shea or Schlupinski. My concern with any new OC is assistants. We need more energy, a OLine that can run all game long, and high football IQ WRs that are ornery and competitive.
With any change I try to remain optimistic and enjoy the process.

 

[PatsFan2]

I believe in another thread Ian explained he has been given a 7 day suspension

This... Ian is a cool dude hang in there DKF.

 

[goheels22002]

scott zolak

 

[venecol]

I’m guessing Darrell Bevell will be the next OC. Most recently, he was the interim HC of the Jaguars after starting the season as OC under Bill’s buddy Urban Meyer. Before that, he was Matt Patricia’s OC with the Lions. He was also the coach who as OC of the Seahawks gave Patricia his greatest accomplishment when he masterfully put Malcolm Butler in place to intercept Russell Wilson’s pass to win SB 49.

The more I think about this after McDaniels departure. The more obvious it is that McDaniels left after being supplanted as Bill’s crown prince by Patricia. You know the guy whose signature was on the contracts signed by Patriots free agents last off-season. The guy Bill brought over multiple members of his Detroit coaching even though he was only hired as an “advisor “.

Who better to in trust the future of Mac Jones then the guy who guided Trevor Lawrence’s rookie year. I’m all onboard.

Last off-season there was a rumor originating from someone at 98.5 that the Krafts and Belichick had agreed on a retirement plan where the coaching duties would fall to Patricia with Bill’s retirement. That detail made me disbelieve it at the time. It appears now that it might be true.

Petrified that they be seen as running off Bill, the Krafts allowed Belichick to choose his successor. I hope it all works out. After all, Bill, Bob and Matt are smarter than everyone else; just ask them.

I think Fat Matt is being developed for a future GM role, not HC. I doubt the Krafts hand the keys of the kingdom to one guy again. Once Bill retires, you'll see a standard GM & HC roles like everyone else uses.

 

[upstater1]

The player personnel director is really just a chief scout, isn't he? BB does the picking.

Yesterday I was in a discussion with a friend about McDaniels getting hired after all the other BB assistants flamed out, so I took a look at Parcells' coaching staff in the 80s with the Giants, and I realized that 5 guys from his staff flamed out before Belichick was hired by the Patriots (Handley, Groh, Palmer, Belichick, Fassel) and Tom Coughlin was 6-10 with the Jags.

But as I was looking at their coaching staff I was really shocked to see that as far back as 1982, guess who was the Director of Player Personnel for Parcells' Giants?

Ernie Adams. Let that sink in.

 

[ashley]

Good article by Lazar with potential candidates: It looks like BOB is the favorite now:

Lazar: Top Candidates to Replace Josh McDaniels as Patriots' Offensive Coordinator - CLNS Media

The Patriots are searching for a new offensive coordinator for the first time in a decade.

www.clnsmedia.com

 

[patfanken]

Man Josh would be taking one for the team imo lol

I'm pulling for Josh though. He strikes me as a little bit of a nut taking this job but I'll root for him. I truly don't get the Josh hate around here. I've yet to hear a solid argument why he sucks or w/e but that's kind of par for the course with those things. Very few can actually explain anything in detail but the hate was over the top. For a guy who was always sought after among NFL circles and hired/rehired by Bill multiple times.

He's got an uphill battle in Vegas though. What a climb that is.

Josh was an OUTSTANDING OC. One of the best in the league. The fact is, ANY OC is going to get hammered by idiots who watch 3 hour of football a week and think they know more than a guy who puts in 70+ hour weeks for YEARS. While its fun to complain about calls and strategies (and I've done it myself many times over the years), I would NEVER be so stupid as to think I know more than the guy who made that call. I think I know more football than most here, but the reality is I now know about 5% as the lowliest assistant on their roster. (at my height i40 years ago it might have been about 22%.)

It's just the nature of the fan/team experience. We LOVE to complain. So whomever Bill picks as OC, will eventually be vilified by some, questioned by many, and have specific calls complained about by most. We LOVE to eat our own.

As to who I'd pick? BOB would seem the logical choice. I think his blow up with Brady (one which Brady took the blame, btw) doesn't mean O'Brien is a hot head, it was a very isolated event that certain people have taken out of proportion. All I know is that O'Brien has been a successful coach on both the college and professional areas. Bill had 6 full seasons with the Texans and they made the playoffs 4 times, most of those seasons with a merry go round of QB's before drafting Watson in his last full year. Not to say BOB was a great head coach, but he was over 500 there in his tenure, and there have been more HC's that didn't than did. (BTW- Kyle Shanahan has been to a Superbowl and a NFCCG, but those were the only 2 plus 500 seasons out of the 5 he's been HC. Seasons where he was the beneficiary of a LOT of high picks.

So the point I'm taking too long to make is BOB is a GOOD and proven NFL coach and would be an asset to the Pats.

As to what WILL happen, I have no clue. Half of the possibilities that fans have suggested seem like they could happen. Lets see.

 

[patfanken]

Houston rank in rushing attempts each year of OBrien

'14- 1st
'15- 5th
'16- 6th
'17- 11th
'18- 4th
'19- 12th

This only slams home the gap between a lot of fans IMPRESSIONS of OBriien and the reality. Thanks

 

[ohiopatsfan]

Now that McD is in at LV, the next question is how many Pats' coaches he takes with him. Fears is retiring. Might McD take Mayo as DC? At least BB gets two 3rd round comp picks if that happens.