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As others pointed out, catch rate isn’t good enough to compare to drops, especially for a guy in a different role.
Average depth of target (yards):
Agholor: 14
Bourne: 8.9
Jakobi: 9.7
Henry: 9.1
Jonnu: 5.1
I agree defense are not always bracketing Agholor with a safety over the top like he’s tyreek, but I do think they respect his deep threat, give him a cushion, etc.
Here is an example of him drawing a deep safety (along with his own man):
Agholor has a history of drops. Other people here have made reference to it. He will go the way of these 3 in their final seasons in NE if it continues.
Sanu 55 %
Gordon 55 %
Dorsett 53 %
Mac Jones is not in trouble if Agholor cant go. In practice, Wilkerson imitates the best WR the upcoming opponent has. Stefon Diggs this week. If Wilkerson begins hauling in passes in Agholors shoes this Sunday, watch how fast the Bills Safety shades in his direction because defenses do not want to give up the home run play. Just like the Patriots defense.
Offensively, the Patriots are not the Chiefs. The NE offense is a methodical patient system that takes what defenses generally give them. The short passes are always there which is Mac Jones game.
Agholor has a history of drops. Other people here have made reference to it. He will go the way of these 3 in their final seasons in NE if it continues.
Sanu 55 %
Gordon 55 %
Dorsett 53 %
Mac Jones is not in trouble if Agholor cant go. In practice, Wilkerson imitates the best WR the upcoming opponent has. Stefon Diggs this week. If Wilkerson begins hauling in passes in Agholors shoes this Sunday, watch how fast the Bills Safety shades in his direction because defenses do not want to give up the home run play. Just like the Patriots defense.
Offensively, the Patriots are not the Chiefs. The NE offense is a methodical patient system that takes what defenses generally give them. The short passes are always there which is Mac Jones game.
I actually think Wilkerson can burn them deep, if he can haul it in. He appeared to have the speed in the preseason but not the hands, at least at the time. He's not only fast but also a big dude, he may be a real gem if he can round into form. I have some hope there.
Agholor has a history of drops. Other people here have made reference to it. He will go the way of these 3 in their final seasons in NE if it continues.
Sanu 55 %
Gordon 55 %
Dorsett 53 %
Mac Jones is not in trouble if Agholor cant go. In practice, Wilkerson imitates the best WR the upcoming opponent has. Stefon Diggs this week. If Wilkerson begins hauling in passes in Agholors shoes this Sunday, watch how fast the Bills Safety shades in his direction because defenses do not want to give up the home run play. Just like the Patriots defense.
Offensively, the Patriots are not the Chiefs. The NE offense is a methodical patient system that takes what defenses generally give them. The short passes are always there which is Mac Jones game.
Well Mac, you are on the throne and the opposition is at the wall. Your troops are thin and you are surrounded. The Prophet Coach Bill asks you the fight the enemy with his gameplan. You must strap up and lead this team to victory Sunday. You are King Mac Jones, you must lead the Patriots in whatever way you can. As for the rest of the flock, stay in the play, Mac is going to need all hands on deck. Just because your number isn't called doesn't mean you slack off. Receivers are ALWAYS eligible until the whistle blows. Let's go!
Agholor has a history of drops. Other people here have made reference to it. He will go the way of these 3 in their final seasons in NE if it continues.
Sanu 55 %
Gordon 55 %
Dorsett 53 %
Mac Jones is not in trouble if Agholor cant go. In practice, Wilkerson imitates the best WR the upcoming opponent has. Stefon Diggs this week. If Wilkerson begins hauling in passes in Agholors shoes this Sunday, watch how fast the Bills Safety shades in his direction because defenses do not want to give up the home run play. Just like the Patriots defense.
Offensively, the Patriots are not the Chiefs. The NE offense is a methodical patient system that takes what defenses generally give them. The short passes are always there which is Mac Jones game.
2007-2009 Randy Moss: 59%
Darn, since catch rate is everything for the patriots, he wasn’t great.
Those points aren’t relevant. Your point is that Agholor does not play the role that Edelman, Welker, and Brown played? Of course… no crap. No one is claiming that. No one is claiming that Agholor doesn’t have a history of drops on other teams, especially the eagles. But he has ONE this year. And he’s won several contested catches. Jakobi has dropped more passes than him, to be fair. Stop using catch % to compare players in extremely different roles as a way to measure how good they are at catching. Strawman all over the place.
Yeah, I am excited to see if Wilkerson can fill in in any capacity (although he actually showed a bigger problem with drops in the preseason, so funny you bring him up). I absolutely think the Pats can win without Agholor and I’m not claiming that he’s a superstar, but I do think he provides some value.
I am wondering if Stevenson tested positive for COVID around the same time as Bourne and the Pats just didn't put him on the COVID list until yesterday and he could even be asymptomatic. I admit I don't know the COVID rules intimately, but I don't think teams have to report a player's COVID status to media unless they are put on the COVID reserve list. I could be wrong though.
If that is the case, keeping Stevenson off the list is a great competitive advantage for the Pats this week. Without him on the list and just reporting he was out because of an illness forced the Bills to spend considerable time game prepping for him. If he was on the COVID list, the Bills would have spent far less time. So by announcing it on Friday after all the game prep is done, it forces the Bills to revise their defensive gameplan on the fly without anytime to install it in practice.
Again, this is just a theory, but I wouldn't put it beyond Belichick to find a loophole like this in the COVID policy and exploit it.
Agholor has a history of drops. Other people here have made reference to it. He will go the way of these 3 in their final seasons in NE if it continues.
Sanu 55 %
Gordon 55 %
Dorsett 53 %
Mac Jones is not in trouble if Agholor cant go. In practice, Wilkerson imitates the best WR the upcoming opponent has. Stefon Diggs this week. If Wilkerson begins hauling in passes in Agholors shoes this Sunday, watch how fast the Bills Safety shades in his direction because defenses do not want to give up the home run play. Just like the Patriots defense.
Offensively, the Patriots are not the Chiefs. The NE offense is a methodical patient system that takes what defenses generally give them. The short passes are always there which is Mac Jones game.
Hmmmm….. what is the common thread to the type of pass catchers you list that were in the 60s and low 70s %??? And then those plus Agholor and Moss that are were in the 50s??? Does this need to be charted on a gridiron for understanding???
The Nick Wright “I’m gonna focus only on stats that don’t take the actual game into account” argument really doesn’t hold up.
I am wondering if Stevenson tested positive for COVID around the same time as Bourne and the Pats just didn't put him on the COVID list until yesterday and he could even be asymptomatic. I admit I don't know the COVID rules intimately, but I don't think teams have to report a player's COVID status to media unless they are put on the COVID reserve list. I could be wrong though.
If that is the case, keeping Stevenson off the list is a great competitive advantage for the Pats this week. Without him on the list and just reporting he was out because of an illness forced the Bills to spend considerable time game prepping for him. If he was on the COVID list, the Bills would have spent far less time. So by announcing it on Friday after all the game prep is done, it forces the Bills to revise their defensive gameplan on the fly without anytime to install it in practice.
Again, this is just a theory, but I wouldn't put it beyond Belichick to find a loophole like this in the COVID policy and exploit it.
Yeah, that’s not how it works. Do you really think the NFL would allow teams to conduct testing on their own, in secret, and then hide the results for 48+ hours? The bookies would not be happy about that and the patriots would probably lose all of their draft picks in the 2022 draft.
More likely, there where are some conflicting test results earlier in the week (for instance, rapid swab positive but initial PCR test negative). They probably treated him like a positive test anyway, to be cautious, but officially listed him as “illness“his PCR test returned positive yesterday or the day before. If a player tests positive, and the rapid test and PCR results are congruent, then that player would immediately be put on the Covid reserve list, even if asymptomatic. The fact that they listed Stevenson with a “illness“ makes it likely that he had at least mild symptoms.
A bit tangential but does anyone know around when you need to get there to get a spot in the stadium lots? I’ve parked there around 10 a couple times this year and there were plenty left. Can you get there at 10:45 or 11 and be fine?
In his laughable “none of this is my fault “ social media post, he mentioned that he has mild symptoms.
What some here fail to understand, or intentionally ignore, is how much worse the situation would be if 95+ percent of the players and 100% of coach and staff weren’t fully vaccinated. The fatties on the OL and DL would be at particularly high risk for more severe disease.
@DaBruinz, you are free to disagree but you are disagreeing with established facts (actual facts, not the “facts” in fantasy lands of Meta, Breitbart and reddit). Without widespread vaccinations, not only would more players have become infected but more of the COVID+ players would also have been symptomatic. Those are facts. Symptomatic = higher risk of missing more games. The 2020 unvaccinated season and a 2021 season to a large extent are not comparable, because of the significant differences between the original strain (2020) and the Delta variant (2021).
Obesity is a risk factor for more severe disease, regardless of age or other comorbidities, like diabetes or chronic heart or lung disease. Another way of saying this is that Covid dislikes fat people, among other high risk groups. That’s a fact. Most of the OL and DL are in the obese range BMI are not rocked up like Watt and Donald.
Hmmmm….. what is the common thread to the type of pass catchers you list that were in the 60s and low 70s %??? And then those plus Agholor and Moss that are were in the 50s??? Does this need to be charted on a gridiron for understanding???
The Nick Wright “I’m gonna focus only on stats that don’t take the actual game into account” argument really doesn’t hold up.
No, because Moss caught 23 TDs in 1 season. Moss could have been the GOAT WR in the NFL history with Jerry Rices work ethic.
There is no replacement for a Randy Moss. There are plenty of Agholors, but its comical that you would include Agholor in the same group as a HOFer. You must have been taking the game into consideration.
