Is anyone still worried about the Bills?

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

No, most of Belichick’s wins against Buffalo are pure ass kickings. Patriots being the better team.

On Monday though, the Bills truly beat themselves.

- 5 drops
- A dropped TD
- An unforced fumble
- A missed field goal
- A missed PI in the endzone (that’s the refs fault, not Bills)

Many of the "drops" were clearly wind-affected balls.

The "dropped" TD will in no way be recorded as a drop. It didnt even hit him in the hands. It hit him in the forearm after he had trouble locating the ball, because the wind moved it at least 10 feet. It was a direct consequence of the wind conditions and was the precise reason why nobody was going deep all night.

I will give you the "unforced" fumble. It was a bad handoff, not into the gut but high into the chest. That's fundamentals. That's poor coaching. That is beating yourself. It is also part of the game. If coaching were equalized, there would be fewer banners hanging in Gillette.

A missed FG was not unexpected at all. There was "first guessing" before it even happened. Recall a coach deciding that an extra point against the wind was not a reasonable option?

If you are saying the contested pass to Knox in the endzone was PI, then thre's really no support for that. The defender made a play on the ball. If we are going to get into non-calls, we would have to discuss the green light the refs gave to the Bills O-line to hold throughout the game.

 

[GreenCow]

If any of that crap counted for anything, you realize that the Pats would be 12-1 right now

Feel free to show me ANY Patriot game this year where they had a combination of ALL of these items:

- An unforced fumble
- 5 dropped passes
- A dropped TD
- A missed PI call in the endzone
- A missed field goal.

 

[GreenCow]

The "dropped" TD will in no way be recorded as a drop. It didnt even hit him in the hands. It hit him in the forearm after he had trouble locating the ball, because the wind moved it at least 10 feet.

Uh no, the wind did NOT move it 10 feet and yes it DID hit him in the hands.

It literally bounced right off his wrists lol.

 

[GreenCow]

If you are saying the contested pass to Knox in the endzone was PI, then thre's really no support for that. The defender made a play on the ball.

There is actually plenty of evidence for it being PI.

He was stopping Knox from getting back to the ball BEFORE the defender ever tried making a play on it.

 

[GreenCow]

Why are you even here, dude? I think it's time to put this cow out to pasture lol.

If you’re talking to me, I’m just here to talk football.

As I have done for years.

you may have noticed that I’m the only one that is not name-calling in this thread. I don’t engage in such and ignore all those who do.

 

[jimnance]

Guys Green Clown is not worth engaging with. He knows jack about football and hes a whiny delusional homer.
We have had some really good fans from other teams here over the years: Steelers fan @ lil lloyd is a good example. Knowledgeable, understands the game and therefore had major respect thru the years for BB/Brady/Entire Pats org. But he was still a diehard fan of our biggest rival thru The Dynasty. And a team most of us hate .You could actually discuss football and have an intelligent discussion with him. And there's others.
Green Clown is not one of them. Why lower yourselves to responding to this fool?

 

[gitgronked82]

Uh no, the wind did NOT move it 10 feet and yes it DID hit him in the hands.

It literally bounced right off his wrists lol.

I like how you completely ignore my post yesterday where I showed what actually happened. No, it doesn’t hit him in the hands. Yes, the wind affected it. This isn’t where you have the ball hit you to catch a football. Give it up on this play, there’s no debate.

 

[gitgronked82]

Greencow watch this clip, you cannot sit there with a straight face and say this hit him in the hands and wasn’t affected by the wind….

 

[gitgronked82]

Guys Green Clown is not worth engaging with. He knows jack about football and hes a whiny delusional homer.
We have had some really good fans from other teams here over the years: Steelers fan @ lil lloyd is a good example. Knowledgeable, understands the game and therefore had major respect thru the years for BB/Brady/Entire Pats org. But he was still a diehard fan of our biggest rival thru The Dynasty. And a team most of us hate .You could actually discuss football and have an intelligent discussion with him. And there's others.
Green Clown is not one of them. Why lower yourselves to responding to this fool?

Yeah at the end of the day, this is probably true. This is incredibly low-level discussion when we could be doing much better.

 

[Vindicate]

Lmao, Mr Cow is buggin' - even when @DropKickFlutie goes off on his O-line tangents, he's at least right or with sound knowledge.. Nice to have a relatively informed fanbase

 

[GreenCow]

I like how you completely ignore my post yesterday where I showed what actually happened. No, it doesn’t hit him in the hands. Yes, the wind affected it. This isn’t where you have the ball hit you to catch a football. Give it up on this play, there’s no debate.

I can’t even see the ball in your photo.

But here is a closer up photo, where you can actually see the ball touch his hands.

 

[stephens44]

Feel free to show me ANY Patriot game this year where they had a combination of ALL of these items:

- An unforced fumble
- 5 dropped passes
- A dropped TD
- A missed PI call in the endzone
- A missed field goal.

That's a non-starter and I clearly said if ANY of that counted for anything, not all of it. How about starting with the missed game winning FG against Tampa? Wide left by what looked like less than a foot.
You are the typical Bills fan, in denial that your team was beaten as opposed to losing because they failed to execute, to mean the other team just got lucky. The practice is not unique to Bills fans, but it is unique to Bills fans in that its a major part of their character. The whole town goes into denial when they lose, its not just a few Homer type fans. This cherry picking BS, rose colored glasses, myopia, whatever it is....its pathetic.
Bills mafia bought a billboard in Foxboro, how's that looking now? I was in Buffalo for their last AFC Championship game and they couldn't sell it out. Best fans in the league....
Should be funny when the Bills fans in Tampa this weekend stream out of the stadium by the 3rd quarter.

 

[GreenCow]

Greencow watch this clip, you cannot sit there with a straight face and say this hit him in the hands and wasn’t affected by the wind….

In your clip, the ball literally bounces right off his left hand lol.

 

[GreenCow]

That's a non-starter and I clearly said if ANY of that counted for anything, not all of it.

That’s kinda my point.

You expect ONE of those things to happen in a game.

You don’t expect ALL of those to happen in one game.

You proved my exact point lol.

The fact that ALL of this happened in ONE game is amazing and the fact that it was still a 1 point game and came down to Buffalo in the redzone is amazing.

 

[gitgronked82]

I can’t even see the ball in your photo.

But here is a closer up photo, where you can actually see the ball touch his hands.

… you can’t see the ball? It’s right there. Simply look at the picture again. And yes, you can continue posting the same picture from a terrible angle where you can’t see if it’s in his hands (it’s not).
Disregard the pictures then. Watch the clip. No more strawman arguments- watch this clip and tell me if the ball ever touched his right hand (you keep saying hands). You are delusional if you say that hit him in the hands correctly lol.


I mean some things are debatable and some just aren’t. This isn’t something a reasonable person can debate. It objectively did not hit him in the hands that’s absolutely clear as day. Have some self respect.

 

[gitgronked82]

In your clip, the ball literally bounces right off his left hand lol.

Jesus… ok I’m done. Not coming back to this. Watching that clip and concluding that the ball correctly hits his hands and the wind didn’t affect it is legit indefensible nonsense. There’s no having an intelligent conversation with this. Enjoy your delusion-based bickering.

 

[GreenCow]

Yeah at the end of the day, this is probably true. This is incredibly low-level discussion when we could be doing much better.

Just to be clear, as far as “low level discussion” goes, i’m not the one name calling or being rude.

I’m honest in my opinions and try to be respectful at all times.

It’s your fans that name call me and make rude comments. I don’t respond to those posts.

PS, thanks for the new award everyone.

 

[yukon cornelius]

Uh no, the wind did NOT move it 10 feet and yes it DID hit him in the hands.

It literally bounced right off his wrists lol.

um, anatomy

forearms are not hands

 

[GreenCow]

… you can’t see the ball? It’s right there. Simply look at the picture again. And yes, you can continue posting the same picture from a terrible angle where you can’t see if it’s in his hands (it’s not).
Disregard the pictures then. Watch the clip. No more strawman arguments- watch this clip and tell me if the ball ever touched his right hand (you keep saying hands). You are delusional if you say that hit him in the hands correctly lol.


I mean some things are debatable and some just aren’t. This isn’t something a reasonable person can debate. It objectively did not hit him in the hands that’s absolutely clear as day. Have some self respect.

The angle that is literally staring at him in full clear detail is the terrible angle?

Not the one (literally) 100 yards away? lol, uh…

But even in your clip, you clearly see the ball deflect off his hands. It literally bounces off of him.

 

[GreenCow]

um, anatomy

forearms are not hands

See the white things? Those are hands. Gloves on his hands. Where do you see the ball in relation to those white things?