OT: Recent Titans Flyover Under Investigation

[Steve102]

I once dated a former Israeli soldier. She was a weapons specialist...



.....and insanely hot.....as were her friends...
hot israel soldier - Bing images

seems to be a thing.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Makes you wonder where all the money goes. Must be improvements to the facilities or just more bureaucracy (like public school/high schools).

But, the real problem with college costs is it is double wage growth (which largely matches regular inflation of 3.5%). So while the cost of college might double in say 10 years, wage growth will only go up by 50%. hence it defnitely does get much worse and quickly.

I think some colleges/universities have figured this out as they haven't raised costs in several years. Also, the cost doesn't reflect the occupation. It's fine to go to an expensive school for a STEM job, but try one for traditionally low paying jobs (social services, ...) and you'd be screwed.

It goes toward bloating administrative costs, mostly related to salaries for top executives

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Bunch of blame to go around. The bottom line is that higher education institutions and the federal government are two of the most wasteful “big businesses” on the planet.

Let’s start with something I think all of us can agree on and then work from there - college tuition costs are way too god damn high. I’m guessing the vast majority of people on both sides of the aisle will agree with that. Now, where do we go from here? I’d love to see the federal government out of the student loan game, for starters.

I think a good starting point would be to regulate the predatory loans with compounding interest. Its already insanely expensive to go to college, but most end up paying more in interest than they did for their education! Its insane.

 

[Bill Lee]

I once dated a former Israeli soldier. She was a weapons specialist...



.....and insanely hot.....as were her friends...
hot israel soldier - Bing images

Did she field strip your Uzi?

Asking for a friend...

 

[NormZauchin]

As someone whose spouse was a college professor at a good liberal arts school, I can assure you that the compensation she received from teaching was nowhere close to what she would have gotten had she pursued a career in law or medicine. A good deal of the increase in the price of higher education has been the result of a ridiculous expansion of administrative staff.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Total lifecycle cost of F-22 Raptor: $678 million. The F-22 hasn't flown one single combat sortie.

Average cost of going to public university is around $25,000 a year- so 100k for four years.

Just the cancellation of ONE F-22 = full four year education for 6,780 people at a public university.

You ask, what happens if the market gets saturated.. my simple answer is, if the republicunts stop ********ing our attempt to transition to renewables, there will be PLENTY of high level market opportunities. And not everyone will want to purse a top entry position, but they'll be better off navigating through life.

The real difference between Democrats and Republicans economically isn’t between capitalism or socialism, it is where the money goes. Democrats want it to go into making lives and communities better and Republicans want it to benefit the military industrial society and the top 1%. Pretty much every study undertaken on the value of higher education has come to the conclusion that those with a college degree make in average a million $ more over their lifetime. If you want to increase revenues and decrease supplemental income programs there is no better investment than college degrees. And the fact that the we no longer need a brick and mortar school model means much of this can be done on line at much lower costs.

 

[NormZauchin]

The real difference between Democrats and Republicans economically isn’t between capitalism or socialism, it is where the money goes. Democrats want it to go into making lives and communities better and Republicans want it to benefit the military industrial society and the top 1%. Pretty much every study undertaken on the value of higher education has come to the conclusion that those with a college degree make in average a million $ more over their lifetime. If you want to increase revenues and decrease supplemental income programs there is no better investment than college degrees. And the fact that the we no longer need a brick and mortar school model means much of this can be done on line at much lower costs.

I'm not opposed to making a college education available to everyone who can benefit from it, but it is an illusion to think that anyone who goes to college will automatically acquire the skills, character, and mindset to achieve in our society. This is particularly true of STEM careers. Subjects like calculus are hard and many people cannot master them.

 

[PP2]

I'm not opposed to making a college education available to everyone who can benefit from it, but it is an illusion to think that anyone who goes to college will automatically acquire the skills, character, and mindset to achieve in our society. This is particularly true of STEM careers. Subjects like calculus are hard and many people cannot master them.

Many won't want to go to college and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

But many still do, and today, if you do, you have to take out a predatory loan that you will have great difficulty paying off. That's 'Murrrrica for you. Punishing you for wanting to be useful to society.

 

[Skyflarie]

Lakota and Apaches fly low over my house every now and then. They’re noisy, but not really scary or dangerous. A Warthog, on the other hand . . . hear it in close quarters once and you’ll never forget it.

a-10 goes bbrrrrrrrrrtttttttt

 

[n1997y]

a-10 goes bbrrrrrrrrrtttttttt

Only when it’s angry.

you do NOT want to make an A-10 angry!

 

[Skyflarie]

Only when it’s angry.

you do NOT want to make an A-10 angry!

Noooo - I had a friend who was an avionics tech in the Marines, he loved talking about the planes but especially the A-10s. Brrrrrrrrtttttttttt boom boom brrrrttttt

 

[Kontradiction]

Total lifecycle cost of F-22 Raptor: $678 million. The F-22 hasn't flown one single combat sortie.

Average cost of going to public university is around $25,000 a year- so 100k for four years.

Just the cancellation of ONE F-22 = full four year education for 6,780 people at a public university.

You ask, what happens if the market gets saturated.. my simple answer is, if the republicunts stop ********ing our attempt to transition to renewables, there will be PLENTY of high level market opportunities. And not everyone will want to purse a top entry position, but they'll be better off navigating through life.

F22 Raptors, and the tech thereof, are preventing the Russians and Chinese from invading. But I do applaud your optimism. Must be nice to think that the defense budget would change with the implementation of “free college.” It wouldn’t. Taxes would merely increase for everyone, with no transparency for the people, college costs would stay the same or increase, there would be a saturation of degrees with a fixed amount of jobs (leading to outward migration), there would be a crisis with trades, and society would not truly be better off for it. On top of all that, the defense budget would still be bloated. Why? Well, why not? No incentive for those in charge to cut into it because there’s no transparency there either.

Government involvement made tuition what it is, and your answer is more government involvement? No thanks. Anyone with two eyes sees how wasteful they are already with our tax revenue.

Many won't want to go to college and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

But many still do, and today, if you do, you have to take out a predatory loan that you will have great difficulty paying off. That's 'Murrrrica for you. Punishing you for wanting to be useful to society.

I have an MBA and didn’t take out a penny in student loan debt to do it. Loans are far from the only way to go about it. They’re just the easiest. So people take them on. It’s the path of the least work and the least resistance. We love both as a country. Perseverance is no longer our strong suit which is why we’re soft.

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[Nikolai]

Only when it’s angry.

you do NOT want to make an A-10 angry!

It's basically a flying 30mm autocannon...violent as hell, and that was from the "cozy" side watching it do what God General Dynamics made it to do. Can't imagine being on the receiving end...

Flyovers are whatever...I feel more from the National Anthem or a moment of silence or something along those lines than I do a flyover. Keep it, leave it, doesn't matter to me.

 

[Skyflarie]

It's basically a flying 30mm autocannon...violent as hell, and that was from the "cozy" side watching it do what God General Dynamics made it to do. Can't imagine being on the receiving end...

Flyovers are whatever...I feel more from the National Anthem or a moment of silence or something along those lines than I do a flyover. Keep it, leave it, doesn't matter to me.

That plus optional rockets/missiles or 500 kg bombs. Such a verastile platform, and fast as hell to boot!

 

[n1997y]

this isn’t the first investigation of the officer who planned and led the flyover. There was an incident in Poland, and reading about that it seems the battalion executive officer involved must’ve had a very interesting evening….

Army launches inquiry into startling NFL game flyover by Fort Campbell pilots

Here’s the story about the XO

 

[n1997y]

That plus optional rockets/missiles or 500 kg bombs. Such a verastile platform, and fast as hell to boot!

Speaking of versatility, iirc there was an A-10 pilot that logged an air to air kill during the Gulf War, so it’s also an accomplished dogfighter (sort of).

 

[‘Mondre]

Always kind of amazes me that people who complain about the exorbitant costs for a college education, and the crippling student loan debt that most choose to take out to go, somehow think that allowing the government to regulate it through taxes (without transparency) is the answer.

Who pays for the free college? What happens when the market gets saturated with degrees? What’s your plan for the trades shortfall which will surely happen? Will I be reimbursed the thousands of dollars I had to pay out of pocket to put myself through school? Will others be reimbursed what they’ve paid into their student loans and have the rest of them canceled?

Free college isn’t free. The burden just shifts to the taxpayers. Now, if you want to talk about lowering the costs of going to college for these kids, I’m all ears. In no world should a class cost over $1,000 at a public university nor should a text book cost $300.

Naaaaaaa I ain’t reading that

 

[Kontradiction]

Naaaaaaa I ain’t reading that

I don’t think free college is going to help you then, bud.

 

[PP2]

F22 Raptors, and the tech thereof, are preventing the Russians and Chinese from invading. But I do applaud your optimism. Must be nice to think that the defense budget would change with the implementation of “free college.” It wouldn’t. Taxes would merely increase for everyone, with no transparency for the people, college costs would stay the same or increase, there would be a saturation of degrees with a fixed amount of jobs (leading to outward migration), there would be a crisis with trades, and society would not truly be better off for it. On top of all that, the defense budget would still be bloated. Why? Well, why not? No incentive for those in charge to cut into it because there’s no transparency there either.

Anyone with any sense of military logistics or tactics will tell you that there is no way in hell Russia or China are ever going to invade the United States without considerable cost to their own countries and resources. Two great oceans separate us from them, and America is the most armed, and the craziest country in the entire world.. who in their right mind would want to invade this first world ****hole?

And they don't have to, anyway. The unconventional and alternate wars they've waged against us have been devastatingly successful. Russia runs troll farms out of eastern Europe that reached 140 million Americans and interfered substantially with our 2020 elections by sowing doubt, confusion, and political division that continues to this day. This was all based on a paper General Valery Gerasimov, Russia?s chief of the General Staff, comparable to the U.S. chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote in 2013: “The Value of Science Is in the Foresight,” in the weekly Russian trade paper Military-Industrial Kurier. Gerasimov took tactics developed by the Soviets, blended them with strategic military thinking about total war, and laid out a new theory of modern warfare. He basically wrote: “The very ‘rules of war? have changed. The role of nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown, and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness."

Think about that for a minute. China and Russia has been far more successful with their attacks on our democracy through social media than if they were to attack us physically.

Government involvement made tuition what it is, and your answer is more government involvement? No thanks. Anyone with two eyes sees how wasteful they are already with our tax revenue.

I have no idea why you think Government is responsible for skyrocketing tuition cost. Nothing I have read suggests anything to that effect.

I have an MBA and didn’t take out a penny in student loan debt to do it. Loans are far from the only way to go about it. They’re just the easiest. So people take them on. It’s the path of the least work and the least resistance. We love both as a country. Perseverance is no longer our strong suit which is why we’re soft.

Enough with the BS that people are in general, lazy, soft, and loving the path of least resistance. This country has had a rigged economy for a very long time. It's pretty hard to succeed in an economy where the baseline, the floor, by which one earns a living is SEVEN ****ing dollars an hour and has been since 2009. I guarantee there is absolutely nobody that can get by on just seven dollars an hour in 2022.

 

[Kontradiction]

Anyone with any sense of military logistics or tactics will tell you that there is no way in hell Russia or China are ever going to invade the United States without considerable cost to their own countries and resources. Two great oceans separate us from them, and America is the most armed, and the craziest country in the entire world.. who in their right mind would want to invade this first world ****hole?

And they don't have to, anyway. The unconventional and alternate wars they've waged against us have been devastatingly successful. Russia runs troll farms out of eastern Europe that reached 140 million Americans and interfered substantially with our 2020 elections by sowing doubt, confusion, and political division that continues to this day. This was all based on a paper General Valery Gerasimov, Russia?s chief of the General Staff, comparable to the U.S. chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote in 2013: “The Value of Science Is in the Foresight,” in the weekly Russian trade paper Military-Industrial Kurier. Gerasimov took tactics developed by the Soviets, blended them with strategic military thinking about total war, and laid out a new theory of modern warfare. He basically wrote: “The very ‘rules of war? have changed. The role of nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown, and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness."

Think about that for a minute. China and Russia has been far more successful with their attacks on our democracy through social media than if they were to attack us physically.

Yeah. The reason they’re doing that is because of the defense budget and all of the innovation that comes along with it. I think there were something like 13 Christian pages on Facebook spreading misinformation and, when the company tracked the source, all 13 were based out of troll farms in Macedonia. LMAO.

As for America being a “first world ****h0le,” why are you still here? You have money. Why not move to Denmark or Switzerland? Seems like you’d be much happier there.

I have no idea why you think Government is responsible for skyrocketing tuition cost. Nothing I have read suggests anything to that effect.

??? There are tons of articles about it. You’re not seeing it because you don’t want to. Why would tuition costs remain static if supply is finite and demand goes up because of the federal government’s predatory lending processes to 18 year old kids right out of high school? If you don’t want to trust an article, that’s fine. Look at when tuition costs began to skyrocket then when the federal government got involved in student loans. Not that hard to see the correlation unless you don’t want to.

Enough with the BS that people are in general, lazy, soft, and loving the path of least resistance.

It’s not BS at all. Most people in this country are soft and don’t care to work anymore. This is on display whenever the “free” college conversation comes about. I just posted a link about Fortune 500 companies that offer anything from tuition assistance to full-on reimbursement. If you go to work for the local or state governments in many states, they do as well after a probationary period. Why? Because there are benefits to educating your employees and then “farming” them in-house. The rub? You have to work hard to get your degree, take night classes, sacrifice some of your weekends, and it generally takes longer since most don’t have the time to go to school and work full time.

Even still, kids choose to sign on the dotted line for the equivalent of a mortgage payment with a sky high interest rate to graduate in four years. They do that because it’s the path of least resistance. I had that choice. Didn’t feel like paying student loans off for 10+ years at $800-$1,000 a month and opted to take longer, work, grow in my company, and learn. Sucked while I was doing it, but I’m completely debt free and pulling in six figures per year.

This country has had a rigged economy for a very long time. It's pretty hard to succeed in an economy where the baseline, the floor, by which one earns a living is SEVEN ****ing dollars an hour and has been since 2009. I guarantee there is absolutely nobody that can get by on just seven dollars an hour in 2022.

What economy in the world ISN’T rigged? What relevance does this have to the conversation of giving the government more non-transparent control over our tax dollars so everyone can go to college when the government created the high tuition problem in the first place? I’m failing to see how this isn’t a red herring.