Bill Belichick appreciation thread

[Steve102]

Can we not turn this into another Brady/Belichick thread?

 

[Bill Lee]

Just re-watched: there was a handshake between them.

Agree. I watched it twice on my DVR yesterday because it showed Vrabel sprinting for the locker room instead of hanging around doing the meet and greet thing, which looked odd to me. When I went back the 2nd time I saw a very quick handshake. I think BB looked like he wanted to have a bit of a chat but Vrabel was not in the mood to talk. BB had a bit of a look of disappointment but it didn't last very long, he was "on to" the next guy.

 

[Biffins]

I'd love to.

(1) the 2018 team floundered

It won the Superbowl

(2) a reset was necessary

We've reset many times with Brady here.

(3) Brady understandibly wanted to play for a "win now"

Which could have been the Patriots after a reset

(4) NE got their stuff together and reloaded in the draft & FA

Which they could have done with Brady here.

(5) both teams are winning at a similar clip

This is not about the Bucs

(6) despite Brady's unique excellence and longevity, it's LIKELY Mac will still be in the league in 4-5 years, whereas Brady LIKELY won't.

Doesn't matter. You could make that argument to kick out Brady 10 years ago.

I love me some Brady, but I unlike many posters, I'm not IN love with him. I don't think NE is 8-4 with Brady in 2021 because I don't think the reset occurs to the point it did if he stuck around.

You're right. We're probably far better than 8-4.

 

[Biffins]

Can we not turn this into another Brady/Belichick thread?

Agreed. Will stop posting on this topic here.

Let's appreciate BB (despite his bad past GM decisions, like releasing Brady).

 

[farn]

It won the Superbowl

We've reset many times with Brady here.

Which could have been the Patriots after a reset

Which they could have done with Brady here.

This is not about the Bucs

Doesn't matter. You could make that argument to kick out Brady 10 years ago.

You're right. We're probably far better than 8-4.

Heehee. 2019. Obviously mistyped. I clearly loved that spunky 2018 team.

I don’t agree with the other arguments, but I understand what you are saying.

 

[Biffins]

Heehee. 2019. Obviously mistyped. I clearly loved that spunky 2018 team.

I don’t agree with the other arguments, but I understand what you are saying.

Cheers! We're all on the same side.

Let's enjoy the spunk this current team has. I'm loving this season.

 

[Ring 6]

We can replace DMac and Jonnu Smith’s salary with Brady.

It’s not either/or. We’ve been reloading the teams many times in past two decades while having Brady here.

Not even close.

 

[Skyflarie]

That's belied by the fact that when someone does slip an interesting question in, he's fully capable of going for 20 minutes in answer.

Lol for real! Ask him about gunners on kickoffs, punt coverage or for that matter left vs right footed punters and you'll get 20 minutes of gold!

 

[Steve102]

Agreed. Will stop posting on this topic here.

Let's appreciate BB (despite his bad past GM decisions, like releasing Brady).

Fixated much ? Wait, are you DKF?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Agree. I watched it twice on my DVR yesterday because it showed Vrabel sprinting for the locker room instead of hanging around doing the meet and greet thing, which looked odd to me. When I went back the 2nd time I saw a very quick handshake. I think BB looked like he wanted to have a bit of a chat but Vrabel was not in the mood to talk. BB had a bit of a look of disappointment but it didn't last very long, he was "on to" the next guy.

Vrabel was all smiles after the playoff win and quickly ran to the locker room after a quick handshake with BB.

Not a big deal IMO.

 

[Kasmir]

Let's appreciate BB (despite his bad past GM decisions, like releasing Brady).

He didn't release Brady.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

One year after taking a down year to right the cap BB has them back in contention... the anti-BB crowd are reeling, you can see how many voices are suspiciously absent from these pages or pretending they weren't talking smack all offseason. Hilarious...

They are all in the Bucs sub-forum these days. The vast majority of their posts are Bucs related. Not sure why they come here to begin with if they only liked the Patriots because of Brady.

 

[Toofy]

We got a new awesome core team in 2021 similar to what we had after 2010.

Mac, Judon, JC, Meyers, Bourne,Henry,dugger, bailey, Phillips, Harris/Stevenson , T brown .

Keep this core for mac's rookie tenure and then build talent over next few draft seasons.

Guess we would be losing hightower, van Noy, mccourty, slater, Jamie Collins, white and Andrews in next couple of years.

Great job by Bill to make history repeat twice.

 

[Biffins]

They are all in the Bucs sub-forum these days. The vast majority of their posts are Bucs related. Not sure why they come here to begin with if they only liked the Patriots because of Brady.

You can go in the BB sub-forum after he retires and I'll say the same about you.

 

[Biffins]

Should BB be coach of the year, I'm not sure, probably every year he could win it:

Yes, BB should be. And GM of the year. He had a great draft. And he's doing a hell of a job coaching these guys.

 

[Biffins]

We don't have what we have now unless they clear cap space in 2020 and move on... they simply don't. They were borrowing to win from 2014-2019 and that wasn't sustainable. Imagine that 2020 team with no Thuney, DMC and more... that team isn't good, Brady or no.

Moving on was exactly the right thing to do. It worked out best for both player and team. After watching franchise stalwarts like Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson retire early because that dumpster fire of a franchise wouldn't let them go elsewhere and play for a ring, one should feel grateful the Patriots did things the right way... I'm sure in time Tom will recognize this if he doesn't already, I suspect he does.

On what planet do you NOT want the NFL MVP on a below market contract?!?!?!

You moved on from a player than will be NFL MVP this year.



While his team is sitting #16 on cap hits for QBs. Clearly keeping or hiring Brady was a fantastic call. We could have made that call.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Can we not turn this into another Brady/Belichick thread?

Not sure what you mean...what exactly is the argument that supports Brady, and what is the argument that supports Belichick? Please elaborate and feel free to exaggerate your points for theatric effect.

 

[oldrover]

@Ross12 @ashley1992

Oh, mods... oh, mods.......

 

[Huckleberry1]

A 2 year turnaround is fantastic. We may not be an elite team but we're a playoff contender again after only one year of being really a noncontender.

He's really done some impressive work as a GM in the last 24 months. as a GM alone Bill is in the upper echelon of league executives. Throw in his incredible accomplishments on the field and there is no way he's not in Canton the moment he asks to be.

I've said this many times before but I have a sneaking suspicion that as the physical toll of being a head coach gets to be too much for him, Bill might kick himself upstairs to be a GM and advisor, and let his son/McD/a younger HC who'll listen to him handle the operations on the field and/or the more physical side of coaching.

The question of Belichick going to just GM is an interesting one. I have always been of the belief that when he stopped coaching he would be done, period. I felt this way because of his willingness to quit the Jets when he couldn’t control the personnel, and football operations. And with Parcells declaring himself GM who could blame him? But given the organization he has built i actually could see him stepping down as coach at some point, and guiding football operations until actual retirement. I think it’s more likely he will just retire completely, but it’s a possibility.

 

[Wozzy]

On what planet do you NOT want the NFL MVP on a below market contract?!?!?!

You moved on from a player than will be NFL MVP this year.



While his team is sitting #16 on cap hits for QBs. Clearly keeping or hiring Brady was a fantastic call. We could have made that call.

Brady just reworked his deal this offseason to keep Tampa's team intact... it doesn't change the immutable fact he signed for 2 years at 50 million guaranteed in 2020. It also doesn't change the fact he pushed a bunch of his cap debt down the road this offseason to keep them intact... or the exact thing the Patriots had been doing for years and were actively avoiding in 2020.

He was a free agent, he chose to leave... stop highlighting your ignorance of the salary cap and move on with your life. Or go to a Buc's forum, I'm sure they'd love to have some fresh voices there... you have until the end of this season for them to still be relevant and they may not be by season's end if the can't keep that defense healthy. Believe it or not Tom's magical abilities don't actually make tackles, sacks or defend the pass.

#fanboys